My Anecdotal Take On Male Hair Loss...

[karatekid]

Yes. dutasteride is a solution for 99.9999% of men.

f*****g bullshit

 

[KeithS]

A lot of factors either cause or accelerate baldness. A good start would be to abolish nutritional deficiencies, disrupted gut microbiome, sedentation, social isolation and chronic stress. When all these areas have been dealt with you should have an exceptionally greater chance at regrowing hair when initiating proven treatments.

Social isolation is a contributing factor to hair loss? How does that work - I’ve never heard about it.

 

[asabovesobelow]

Social isolation is a contributing factor to hair loss? How does that work - I’ve never heard about it.

That's because isolating oneself from others most often leads to an increase in stress and anxiety. Certain well-being hormones are also released when dealing meaningfully with eachother, which can stimulate more dermal collagen being produced.

 

[KeithS]

That's because isolating oneself from others most often leads to an increase in stress and anxiety. Certain well-being hormones are also released when dealing meaningfully with eachother, which can stimulate more dermal collagen being produced.

Wow, your first statement describes me pretty well :/ Thanks for the explanation!

 

[Derelict]

If you have some coverage then oral minoxidil and dutasteride can do magic. But yes, slick NW7s need the tranny route

I don't know about that, my hair isn't as bad as some on this site but with just over a year on dutasteride and oral minoxidil my hair is slightly better but nothing radical, still needs alot more density. I may just be a bad responder to dutasteride and oral minoxidil though.

 

[KeithS]

Just FYI, I’m an NW3, but I can see the signs of becoming an NW5 if I discontinued treatment. If dutasteride and oral minoxidil are options for me, then I’m willing to try. I’ll have to ask my doctor.

 

[asabovesobelow]

Just FYI, I’m an NW3, but I can see the signs of becoming an NW5 if I discontinued treatment. If dutasteride and oral minoxidil are options for me, then I’m willing to try. I’ll have to ask my doctor.

I would suggest starting with dermarolling. A dermaroller is a cheap investment and there's ton of anecdotal evidence from just the past year alone. Also it seems to be working best with Minoxidil, which I see you're already using. To see some success by other members on here, check out this thread: https://www.gourmetstylewellness.com/interact/threads/microneedling-photo-results-summary.121072/

 

[Wisemiller]

Yes. dutasteride is a solution for 99.9999% of men.

Careful, that line of thinking is dangerous. A lot of men think its impossible to go bald on dutasteride, but those men just haven't had to use it yet. Like finasteride, it is a near 100% certainty that you will go bald on dutasteride eventually. If your very lucky you might buy yourself up to 10 years, but more likely it will be 2-3 years. I haven't even seen adequate results on the stronger regimens mentioned here.

It's good to have hope, but you must prepare for the worst. There are only two ways to stop baldness. One way is to start a family and pass the fight to the next generation.

 

[KeithS]

Careful, that line of thinking is dangerous. A lot of men think its impossible to go bald on dutasteride, but those men just haven't had to use it yet. Like finasteride, it is a near 100% certainty that you will go bald on dutasteride eventually. If your very lucky you might buy yourself up to 10 years, but more likely it will be 2-3 years. I haven't even seen adequate results on the stronger regimens mentioned here.

It's good to have hope, but you must prepare for the worst. There are only two ways to stop baldness. One way is to start a family and pass the fight to the next generation.

Hmm, that’s even more hopeless than my statements. Correct me if I’m wrong, but what I understand from your post is that dutasteride (as well as finasteride) are temporary solutions that will inevitably lead to baldness, correct? You mentioned that this is 100% certain. Are there studies to support this? I don’t want to begin any new treatment without being sure that I’m not just walking down another dead-end street...

 

[KeithS]

I would suggest starting with dermarolling. A dermaroller is a cheap investment and there's ton of anecdotal evidence from just the past year alone. Also it seems to be working best with Minoxidil, which I see you're already using. To see some success by other members on here, check out this thread: https://www.gourmetstylewellness.com/interact/threads/microneedling-photo-results-summary.121072/

Thank you very much for this info. I have heard of dermarolling, but never investigated it. Sounds a little painful, but not as painful as losing one’s hair...

 

[KeithS]

I don't know about that, my hair isn't as bad as some on this site but with just over a year on dutasteride and oral minoxidil my hair is slightly better but nothing radical, still needs alot more density. I may just be a bad responder to dutasteride and oral minoxidil though.

With dutasteride, are you experiencing any negative side effects? Another person on this thread has suggested that dutasteride’s side effects are potentially worse than those caused by finasteride. On finasteride, I have only experienced a couple of negative side effects, such as decreased libido and decreased ejaculate volume - but both of those began well before I started any treatment - perhaps a year or a year and a half prior to beginning a finasteride + topical minoxidil regimen.

 

[KeithS]

One way is to start a family and pass the fight to the next generation.

Alas, I have three girls, and I’m done with procreation. They’re young and have the thickest, strongest and most resilient hair I’ve ever seen. Almost makes me wish I were female, lol.

I can pretty much guarantee that unless they have male children, no future members of my immediate family will have to go through this indignity.

 

[KeithS]

I don't know about that, my hair isn't as bad as some on this site but with just over a year on dutasteride and oral minoxidil my hair is slightly better but nothing radical, still needs alot more density. I may just be a bad responder to dutasteride and oral minoxidil though.

Have you experienced any negative side effects from the dutasteride?

 

[Wisemiller]

Hmm, that’s even more hopeless than my statements. Correct me if I’m wrong, but what I understand from your post is that dutasteride (as well as finasteride) are temporary solutions that will inevitably lead to baldness, correct? You mentioned that this is 100% certain. Are there studies to support this? I don’t want to begin any new treatment without being sure that I’m not just walking down another dead-end street...

Lets put it this way - these drugs have been on the market for a long time. Not one of my friends has saved their hair with them, my hair loss is progressing on them, my doctor says they don't work, and my pharmacist says they don't work. Hell even hair transplant clinics wont operate on a young man even if he's on dutasteride, shows how much faith they even have in it. The only places that think there is a hair loss cure, or even a decent treatment, is on hairloss forums. The rest of the world knows these snake oils for what they really are. Sure there are some theoretical studies and you might have seen that one post of some dude with freakish regrowth, but for most men practical application is they are likely to lose their hair on dutasteride/finasteride at the same rate as anyone else, because it is coded into our genes.

My advice is take these drugs for 4-6 months, there is no harm in trying, but if a man does not see an improvement in the situation then he should shave his head and move on immediately. Life is too short to be dabbling in snake oils on hairloss forums, losing hair with each day, and the chance to start a family along with it.

 

[Me Vs DiffuseThinning]

Careful, that line of thinking is dangerous. A lot of men think its impossible to go bald on dutasteride, but those men just haven't had to use it yet. Like finasteride, it is a near 100% certainty that you will go bald on dutasteride eventually. If your very lucky you might buy yourself up to 10 years, but more likely it will be 2-3 years. I haven't even seen adequate results on the stronger regimens mentioned here.

It's good to have hope, but you must prepare for the worst. There are only two ways to stop baldness. One way is to start a family and pass the fight to the next generation.

You're completely wrong. 10 year follow up studies show that more than 85%maintain on finasteride. And that number is even higher for dutasteride. Read the literature before going all doom and gloom on us.

 

[asabovesobelow]

Thank you very much for this info. I have heard of dermarolling, but never investigated it. Sounds a little painful, but not as painful as losing one’s hair...

The guy on here with the most impressive hair regrowth from dermarolling, Chen, used 1,0mm needles twice a day for 5 minutes each. He reported going medium strength without any bleeding. He was also, just like you, using Minoxidil and Finasteride. He would apply Minoxidil after his dermarolling sessions. From personal experience, using 1,0mm needles without bleeding doesn't hurt much at all. It's almost like a massage.

His results: https://www.gourmetstylewellness.com/interact/attachments/3wbfxma-png.114315/

 

[asabovesobelow]

I've seen many more impressive results than Chen. The most impressive I've seen is Narwhal7 who used 1.5mm once a week.

I think they could be in pair with eachother. These must be the photos you're referring to: https://i.imgur.com/QIZAaGq.jpg

 

[asabovesobelow]

His one year results are even better. Chen had good results, but he wasn't starting at NW7, and he didn't get as good of coverage. His hair looks better than it is due to styling and lighting. If you look at his close up pictures where he pulls his hair back you can see his forelock actually grew back pretty thin.

I have to agree. His results are more impressive. Although there's some difference to when Chen and Narwhal introduced their drugs (Minoxidil and Finasteride).

Narwhal's regimen states 5% Minoxidil 2ml 2 times a day, Finasteride 1mg and Nizoral shampoo 3 times a week. And I suppose this was Narwhal's dermarolling regimen for 3 months up to when he shot his one year results:

"My new microneedle regimen will be as follows: 1.5/2mm once a week (aiming for moderate wounding, don't want a bloody mess.), with 0.25 or 0.5mm every other day with no deep wounding." (https://www.gourmetstylewellness.com/intera...s-from-tressless.117746/page-378#post-1774375)​

 

[asabovesobelow]

I think great frequency may improve/quicken results, but it's not necessary for great results, and may lead to people dropping treatment because it's just a pain to do it every day.

It's good to take note on that none of these two great responders were wounding the hard way with tons of bleeding.