My hair is about 5 inches long losing 1 inch hairs?

Scoiland

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What the hell is going on

My regime is as follows:

Proscar 1/4 tablet since feb 2005
minoxidil 5% since feb 2005
Nizoral since june 2005
Nioxin shampoo and condition since 2003

I orginally lost quite a bit of hair and grew a lot back, even at the hairline.

However, recently i have been noticing i am losing a lot of hair in the shower like 60 ... and over half are only 1 inch or less ??

Is there anything i should do ??
 

noorur

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Those are minuturising hairs. Those hairs are the ones that do not grow, and get shorter and thinner than the other hairs in the non-male pattern baldness region (sides and back). I have them all over my norwood 5a region. The chances are, you are responding to your treatments. Those hairs may be being replaced by thick terminal hairs. In order for thick terminal hairs to grow, the dying hairs must f-off, and I think those dying hairs are in the process of being f'ed off.

Just give it a few more months, to see if those shedded hairs have been replaced by normal hairs or not.

I think you are going through a shedding phase, and you just have to ride it out, just like the rest of us.
 

Sir_LagaLot

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i was going through the same thing even before i started treatment. majority of the hair i lost in the sink and shower when washing would be really short hair, while the rest of my hair was around 4-5 inches longer. I'd even lose hair as long as an eyelash.

it could be two things. either you're responding to treatment, and the DHT reduction is doing something for you 10 months later :/... or this hair is still miniturizing despite the DHT reduction and you're still losing ground.

Does the short hair you lose have tapered ends?, if it does then you're in trouble because a tapered end usually means a reduced anagen period, meaning this was as long as the hair could grow, and now it'll regrow even shorter and thinner. If it doesnt have a tapered end then it shouldnt be a problem.

stick to treatment and ride out this shed you're going through. i dont even know whether you can classify this "60" hair you're losing as a shed. I started treatment 5 months back, this is month 6 and i've been losing a constant 80 hair at least everyday.
 

Justlooking

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Sir_LagaLot said:
Does the short hair you lose have tapered ends?, if it does then you're in trouble because a tapered end usually means a reduced anagen period, meaning this was as long as the hair could grow, and now it'll regrow even shorter and thinner. If it doesnt have a tapered end then it shouldnt be a problem.

I am not entirely sure this has ever been proven one way or the other
 

Sir_LagaLot

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it doesnt need to be proven. all hair tapers during the transition from anagen to telogen blah blah. it only makes sense that if a short hair has a tapered end, its not hair from your last haircut. its hair that grew as much as it could and then it fell out, most probably only to be replaced by a weaker shorter one.

*shrugs
 

arjun17

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Hair with tapered end could very well be normal....

My mom has thick hair to about mid-back length (27 inches or so). Many of the hairs she sheds have tapered ends, and all are not 27 inches in length, some are considerably less. The anagen phase is not static, but very much dynamic and adjusts itself relative to the length of the haircut. If you keep cutting all the hairs on your head except one hair (not really easy to do in practice, just a theoretical supposition) to a certain length, do you think the uncut hair will keep growing and growing till its maximum length? Of course not. It will fall out at a length equal or slightly less than that of the surrounding hair. Also, all non-balding people's scalps contain a few short hairs which never grow very long. The ratio of the long terminal hairs to these short hairs (in non-balding people : it is obviously much less in balding people) is around 7:1. So you have to count both the natural vellus hairs and the uncut terminal hairs which shed according to the haircut. I even once read somewhere that it is possible for the same follicle to intermittently produce short or long hair, without any intervention from medication.
Take my case. I am not thinning at all (no scalp visible when wet), yet I shed some short hairs with tapered ends. EVEN MY SIDES AND BACK shed a few such hairs. The catch is that nearly all of these hairs are pretty much as thick as my normal terminal hairs.
In short, you cannot tell whether an individual hair is miniaturizing, or has miniaturized, by just examining it. It's a matter of degree - there is no sharp dividing line between "miniaturizing" hairs and terminal hairs. Even the baldest men have a few good strong terminal hairs on the top of their heads, don't they? Similarly even the men with thick heads of hair have a few thinner or shorter hairs. You cannot look at one hair , or two hairs, or ten hairs , or even fifty hairs taken randomly from all over the scalp of a person and say " The person who shed these hair(s) is (or is'nt) balding." How do you tell whether a man is balding or not? Obviously, by examining all the hair in the suspected area with a general glance. However, if you shed a lot of shorter AND thinner hairs with tapered ends, and you can see through to the scalp WHERE YOU COULD'NT BEFORE UNDER THE SAME CONDITIONS OF LIGHTING, WETNESS, OILINESS ETC. then you are thinning.
To conclude, DON'T LOOK AT THE QUALITY OF HAIR YOU SHED. To define thinning or balding, you look at what remains on the scalp, not what has shed from it. If your hair is visibly thinning in the Norwood pattern, only then is it a cause for worry. Otherwise, just relax.
Cheers,
Arjun
 

Dinzy

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I don't buy your "anagen adjusting to relative length" theory, but most of your statements are very true.
 
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