My male pattern baldness doesn't seem to be genetic, good or bad news?

Ebony

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I'm 25 and I have started to see signs of Androgenic Alopecia. I went to the Doctor today and she said that yeah it looked like a pattern, but to my knowledge it is not genetic. Everyone on my mother's side has a full head of hair - they don't have long hair but they aren't balding. Even my maternal grandfather had a full head of hair. My father has a full head of hair too, the only one who seems to have had balding is my paternal grandfather, but from what I've read he is irrelevant to the matter.

If I were to rule out that genetics caused this (I can't upload pictures for lack of device), would it make any difference as to whether or not I can recover from this easier? I'm between Norwood I and II it seems. Furthermore, if it is not genetic, what can be causing the pattern aside from poor diet and possible deficiencies?
 

br1

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Its not irrelevant. Congrats you got grandpa's genes.
 

garyhary

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Your genes are still to blame. Hair loss can always skip a generation. There is also no evidence that only your mother's side matters. This is a common hair loss myth. Like br1 says, you got your grandpa's genes. Bad luck for your... good luck for parents and other relatives.
 

Ebony

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If there blood related as a grandfather it's genetic.

Male pattern baldness has been linked to the X chromosome, this has been known for some time. This is why it's usually telling when the maternal grandfather is balding, that the offspring will have the same problem.

Edit: So male pattern baldness is entirely genetic then? There's no chance that it is caused by something else?
 

Ebony

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Wrong! This is a myth: http://www.mensjournal.com/expert-a...20/baldness-comes-from-your-mothers-side-myth

Hair loss can be inherited from both sides. No there's no chance that it's something else.

You're going bald, accept it now or you'll suffer even more later for having been in denial.

Woah, let's not assume I am a balding man in denial. I mentioned I'm fully aware I do have a pattern, I just wasn't sure if it made a difference whether it was genetic balding or not.
 

br1

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All men from my maternal side had / have hair. My grandpa died at 80 with a full head of white hair. Intact hairline.

Only my dad is bald. I started balding, my brother didn't.

unlucky me. fck!
 

Thespain

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They say that hair loss is passed on from the mothers side of the family. I don't buy it. My father is a NW5, nearing 6 maybe in a few years, meanwhile his half brother (the two share a mother and are a year a part) is a NW1. My fathers brothers father was/still is a NW1 into his 70s.
 

sirap

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Even if it was from your mothers side your maternal grandfather having hair does not guarantee anything, your mother received one x chromosome from her father and one from her mother, if her mothers father was balding she would have had his balding X chromosome, if she passed that on to your mother your mother could in turn have passed it on to you (instead of passing on your maternal grandfathers X chromosome, as a male you only receive one).

In short, you could have inherited your maternal grandmothers fathers baldness, heck you could have inherited the baldness of your great, great, great, great grandmothers father if your ancestors kept passing that X chromosome down the line, it's just very unlikely.

They say that hair loss is passed on from the mothers side of the family. I don't buy it. My father is a NW5, nearing 6 maybe in a few years, meanwhile his half brother (the two share a mother and are a year a part) is a NW1. My fathers brothers father was/still is a NW1 into his 70s.

again, your father could have received a balding x chromosome from your grandmother, and your uncle could have received the other, non-balding one

from my understanding androgenic alopecia is a dominant trait in men, let's say two brothers are born from the same parents, their father is a norwood 1, they receive his non balding Y chromosome, their mother has one balding X chromosome and one non-balding, they receive one each, end result is one of them balds and the other keeps his hair
 

Ebony

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My only problem with the answer above is that I have read it's actually a recessive gene. And even if it wasn't, common logic suggests it would be rare for me to get a pattern when my mother's line has had no recent (all her brothers have a head of hair) cases and when my dad had a head full of hair. So that's why I thought it might be something other than genes.
 

Suswang

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I disagree

Seems to be a lot of misinformation here. Your baldness could absolutely be caused by something other than genes. That's like saying every person who has the "fat gene" will become obese and vice versa.
 

brannon

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male pattern baldness

You either have the gene or you don't. Its a hit and miss situation. If you have a brother, he can have it, and you not have it, or you can have it, and him not have it, or you both can have it. It depends. Its a hit and miss thing. If someone in your family has it somewhere in your familie's gene pool, you may or may not get the gene(s) that causes male pattern baldness.....:freak::freak:
 

davidpaul

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your are very lucky....because your parent had no bald head. But the reason for your hair problem is based on the environmental situation and you may also using the chemical substance for your hair.

Don't try any artificial remedy ..try some natural remedy for your hair...

I studied few foods helps to improve the hair growth. so you can also read and get benefits for your hair.

http://www.angelmeds.com/blog/foods-that-enhance-hair-growth.html.

don't forget to follow this food system in your daily food diet ..It will really helpful to you.
 

tox

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I'm the same way except my grandpa also had a full head of hair before passing away at 75. I'm a Norwood 2 and frankly if it stopped here I'd be 100% content, but at 22...
 
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