need advice on my regimen choice

g.i joey

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Hey guys, I recently was kind of forced to make mtself a new regimen using prppecia... propecia made me realize I am very susceptible to gyno. Luckily I managed to rid myself of most of it (thank god). So after retry ing finasteride I'm 2 and a a half weeks in and my nipples got puffy again (no pain,no itchy ness or soreness this time) so I decided I should act before it gets to thay point. I was on .5mg a day both times I tried finasteride and either I'm very sensitive to it or my nipples are. Anyways I decided to take a day off and decided I will take .5 one day and .25 the next and so on in this pattern.. do you guys think that will be enough to combat some pretty agressive hair loss? On .25 a day I never had gyno symptoms once, but I feel it is too little of a dose to help. So this is my last option and I was wondering if you guys could give me some.insight on this based off experience or any sort of evidence. My regimen is currently .75mg finasteride E2D and minoxidil at night along with Nizoral when I can remember (once a week) I def started shedding about 4 days ago so I can't even tell what's happening up there.. thanks!

P.s the only side effect I suffer is very mild low libido (I can get it up whenever) and on this new dosage thay has basically gone back to prefin.
 

g.i joey

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Tbh no gyno isn't, but slightly puffy nipples is if it means 5 more years of hair,I'm fkn 22 man!!
 

Agustin Araujo

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Like Wolf Pack stated, you may eventually develop gynecomastia even on a low dosage of Finasteride, unfortunately. Also like he stated, something like RU58841 is going to seem more sensible.

If anything, RU58841 may be your best possible route to maintain your hair in the longterm since it seems like you might not be able to take any Finasteride in the longterm. I can tell you without doubt that the topical anti-androgen works since recently, I've been applying a 10% solution of the treatment only to the hair at my hairline. When apply Minoxidil in a NW6 pattern since that's how I'm thinning, in the area where I've been applying the RU58841 which is my hairline, I haven't had any shedding, a hair rarely comes out, while all the other areas where I haven't been applying the topical anti-androgen, I'm still having a tiny bit of shedding.

The point is, RU58841 may be your best possible route. From others and my experience of using it, for a fact it does work really well to stop the effects of DHT on Androgenetic Alopecia sensitive hair follicles. I'm sorry about your situation g.i joey that you can't tolerate Finasteride very well.
 

g.i joey

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thanks, i enjoy the advice from you guys. What i noticed is that even when i took finasteride for 1 month straight with .25 a day i didnt have any gyno symptoms, which leads me to believe the 15% estrogen increase on my .5mg/day dosage along with my 30-40 pounds of fat on my body pushed my gyno over the limits and led me to have gyno. Now, the reason i am hesitant on ceasing treatment right now, is because the panflet of side effects says nothing about gyno, it says enlarged breasts, which resulted in puffy nipples for me. But i still have yet to feel any sensitivity in my nipples that would indicate tissue growth/expansion. so maybe i just need to find a medium between .25-.5mg a day and ill be set, not reaping the full benefits of propecia but at least 75% of it.

I will not take RU due to the fact that it reached trials to be an approved hair loss treatment and didnt make it, if finasteride made it and ru didnt, that tells me something. I had to build up alot of courage to take the finasteride plunge, between my brother bashing me for believing in side effects and me at a constant battle with myself in what i wanted more (hair, or peace of mind of my overall health) and then i finally took the plunge and this happens. If my gyno flares up on my current regimen then i will seriously consider going on an insane diet and getting to a normal weight, im currently 5'11 at 230 pounds, so i could def afford to lose some.

sorry guys, im italian and im very hard headed, i know i should take ur advice but i know that since i was able to rid myself of prior gyno i could probably do it again this time if things were to take a turn for the worst. Also, i wanna keep my hair as we do all, so this is a tough battle for me right now, i have 2 choices and the end result of both of them sucks right now.
 

wilson2

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Why don't you just get ripped/ in good shape and then re-evaluate things. Maybe you'l like how you look when muscular that you won't mind a shaved head or a SMP!
 

g.i joey

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tbh im still able to land some 7-8/10 with my fat that i currently have, i wont be able to when im bald and i know that for a fact

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i know bald guys dont have trouble settling down with pretty woman, but im not at a point where im looking to settle down, maybe in my 30's where i said before, i wouldnt mind being bald in my early to mid 30's due to the social acceptance of it/ half of your friends will prob be bald.
 

wilson2

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tbh im still able to land some 7-8/10 with my fat that i currently have, i wont be able to when im bald and i know that for a fact

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i know bald guys dont have trouble settling down with pretty woman, but im not at a point where im looking to settle down, maybe in my 30's where i said before, i wouldnt mind being bald in my early to mid 30's due to the social acceptance of it/ half of your friends will prob be bald.


I was always jealous of guys who could be puffy and still get girls. I need to be pretty jacked to get girls. I think some of it is that when I'm out of shape I remember how I looked/felt in shape so I lose confidence. Anyhow, yeah I know what your saying. I'm 20 right now, If I can keep my hair until I'm in my 30's I'd be pumped. Ideally late 30's.
 

g.i joey

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I was always jealous of guys who could be puffy and still get girls. I need to be pretty jacked to get girls. I think some of it is that when I'm out of shape I remember how I looked/felt in shape so I lose confidence. Anyhow, yeah I know what your saying. I'm 20 right now, If I can keep my hair until I'm in my 30's I'd be pumped. Ideally late 30's.

when i was 15 years old, i was 300 pounds and was able to get the hottest girls in my highschool, 0 ****s were given about my obesity, i was calling my friends fat (they weighed less than me, but were fat), i kid you not!! as i got older and LOST weight i became more self conscious of my actual size and lost some confidence, so much that from 17 when i lost my virginity, i was on a dry spell for about a year and a half.. it really is the way that you see yourself which reflects onto others man. just some food for thought, balding isnt like this tho, balding sucks *** and takes a toll on your looks, whether u look good when bald or not.
 

g.i joey

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4 days later on .5mg one day and .25 the other and so far no nipple irritation what so ever.. feel like they slightly went down in size from when i first noticed puffyness... so far so good.. fingers crossed!
 
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