Need motivation to start taking Finasteride

[justinbieberscombover]

So I'm 6 months after the transplant and while my midscalp/crown are thin I still have some hair to blend in and my front is thick and full. As most of you already know it transformed my look and changed my life.

Today I had a 6 month postop checkup and my Doctor recommended me to start taking finasteride for maintenance and probably even thickening/regrowth.. I'm scared of side effects because I took it for 3 weeks a few years ago and had watery sperm + some weird abnormal feeling when I ejaculated.

He also said I have enough donor for another transplant, but if I don't take finasteride my midscalp will eventually bald and I'll find myself with hair on the front and crown with nothing inbetween and I'll come back to him for another transplant which for some reason he prefers to avoid and doesn't want to operate on me again.

So what do I do from here? While I'm scared of PFS I think the risk is worth it because if I go bald again then it'll be over for good with women.

 

[justinbieberscombover]

Will it help if I see an endocrinologist or a urologist?

 

[Oknow]

Have you tried topical finasteride
Apparently people have reported less sides from it

 

[vondoom]

you dont take it and you possible wasted a lot of money on a transplant that wont last long... that is motivation enough...

 

[justinbieberscombover]

Have you tried topical finasteride
Apparently people have reported less sides from it

How do I get it? Am I supposed to buy it online? There isn't much research on topical finasteride so how will I know how much to apply and how often?

 

[czecha]

Finasteride, or any other 5AR inhibitor, is not inherently "bad". These drugs do exactly what they were designed to do.. which is to completely inhibit multiple isoforms or specific isoforms of the 5AR enzyme. The problem is that doing that is not an appropriate solution for hair loss because you need5AR expression for normal bodily function and these drugs cannot differentiate between 5AR in your hair follicles or your scalp vs your vascular tissues, digestive tissues, connective tissues, or even just a specific area of the body. Using these drugs is like using a nuclear weapon to kill one person in a large city of other benign people. You'll get the target your aiming for, but you'll also cause a lot of other carnage along the way.

We're at the genesis of an age of "smart" drugs and human genetic engineering that will solve most of these problems that tradition drugs can't fix. Traditional drugs lack the ability to have specificity for their targets. They affect whatever is in their path if the shoe fits... and for drugs that alter steroid receptor activation or steroid metabolism, they usually cause changes that negate the positive intended effects of the drug. If there were a drug that targeted 5AR with perfect specificity in the hair follicle, hair loss would no longer be a problem for most people, with the exception of those that still can't produce sufficient levels of intrafollicular estrogens.

When I first took finasteride (at the recommended dose of 1mg) it had a dramatic effect on my hair. It totally stopped falling out within 2-3 weeks and the diameter of my hair shaft became much thicker... like close to double the previous volume (it was thicker than it had ever been for me naturally). However, finasteride also made me feel horrible, but I continued using it anyway because I didn't think I had any other choice. Since finasteride is like that nuclear weapon I described, it didn't affect my endocrine system the positive ways that I wanted it to. It also caused my body to adjust to the unsafe environment caused by systemic 5AR inhibition throughout the body (your body really needs 5AR). The body's reflex to these enzymatic changes is to do whatever it takes to negate the damaging effects of finasteride. Finasteride will cause a sharp increase in systemic synthesis of estrogens and the body's recourse for this is to reduce steroid production and reduce aromatase and estrogen receptor expression... whatever it takes to lower estrogenic activity to lower levels. So, the net result of finasteride (lowered overall steroid synthesis) is worse than where you started to begin with.. before taking finasteride.

However, as I said, I continued to use finasteride because I didn't have the understanding of the pathology of hair loss that I currently have. I gradually became used to how shitty I felt. I became normal. When I changed my dietary and lifestyle habits and accelerated my body's ability to heal itself, I was able to realize just how awful the effects of finasteride can be. I became a completely different person when I recovered. I felt so damn good that, at this point, I would prefer being completely bald and feeling that way than to feel even just average with a full head of hair. Luckily, I don't think I have to compromise. I think I can have both once I've fully recovered from finasteride for the second time, which coming soon.

Finasteride use is simply not worth it. You trade your entire essence and holistic bodily health for marginally better hair (at least for most people that use it). Some can tolerate finasteride better than others because their genetic enzymology is different from others' and they're less systemically affected, but, I believe not only does it eventually catch up with them, finasteride is also less effective in people that don't experience as many side effects... and generally don't realize how it affects them because the change can be very gradual (again, depending on the person).

 

[DoctorHouse]

How do I get it? Am I supposed to buy it online? There isn't much research on topical finasteride so how will I know how much to apply and how often?

Get the doctor who told you to go on finasteride to direct you to a compounding pharmacy that makes topical finasteride minoxidil combo. He can write the script for you too. Or maybe he sells it. I would go topical since you are concerned with the sides.

 

[Caillou]

In my experience i used to not care since even though i was balding it was still "not that bad". But when i lost a good amount of hair and saw myself approaching NW7 quickly, i wished i had started as early as possible and now i'm popping finasteride like candy


Once your really start losing hair it's a whole different world

 

[czecha]

In my experience i used to not care since even though i was balding it was still "not that bad". But when i lost a good amount of hair and saw myself approaching NW7 quickly, i wished i had started as early as possible and now i'm popping finasteride like candy


Once your really start losing hair it's a whole different world

Candycel

 

[justinbieberscombover]

In my experience i used to not care since even though i was balding it was still "not that bad". But when i lost a good amount of hair and saw myself approaching NW7 quickly, i wished i had started as early as possible and now i'm popping finasteride like candy


Once your really start losing hair it's a whole different world

I've "really lost hair" of course but back then I was like oh well I'll get a couple transplants

Which I did but now I really need to keep it

 

[vondoom]

Finasteride, or any other 5AR inhibitor, is not inherently "bad". These drugs do exactly what they were designed to do.. which is to completely inhibit multiple isoforms or specific isoforms of the 5AR enzyme. The problem is that doing that is not an appropriate solution for hair loss because you need5AR expression for normal bodily function and these drugs cannot differentiate between 5AR in your hair follicles or your scalp vs your vascular tissues, digestive tissues, connective tissues, or even just a specific area of the body. Using these drugs is like using a nuclear weapon to kill one person in a large city of other benign people. You'll get the target your aiming for, but you'll also cause a lot of other carnage along the way.

We're at the genesis of an age of "smart" drugs and human genetic engineering that will solve most of these problems that tradition drugs can't fix. Traditional drugs lack the ability to have specificity for their targets. They affect whatever is in their path if the shoe fits... and for drugs that alter steroid receptor activation or steroid metabolism, they usually cause changes that negate the positive intended effects of the drug. If there were a drug that targeted 5AR with perfect specificity in the hair follicle, hair loss would no longer be a problem for most people, with the exception of those that still can't produce sufficient levels of intrafollicular estrogens.

When I first took finasteride (at the recommended dose of 1mg) it had a dramatic effect on my hair. It totally stopped falling out within 2-3 weeks and the diameter of my hair shaft became much thicker... like close to double the previous volume (it was thicker than it had ever been for me naturally). However, finasteride also made me feel horrible, but I continued using it anyway because I didn't think I had any other choice. Since finasteride is like that nuclear weapon I described, it didn't affect my endocrine system the positive ways that I wanted it to. It also caused my body to adjust to the unsafe environment caused by systemic 5AR inhibition throughout the body (your body really needs 5AR). The body's reflex to these enzymatic changes is to do whatever it takes to negate the damaging effects of finasteride. Finasteride will cause a sharp increase in systemic synthesis of estrogens and the body's recourse for this is to reduce steroid production and reduce aromatase and estrogen receptor expression... whatever it takes to lower estrogenic activity to lower levels. So, the net result of finasteride (lowered overall steroid synthesis) is worse than where you started to begin with.. before taking finasteride.

However, as I said, I continued to use finasteride because I didn't have the understanding of the pathology of hair loss that I currently have. I gradually became used to how shitty I felt. I became normal. When I changed my dietary and lifestyle habits and accelerated my body's ability to heal itself, I was able to realize just how awful the effects of finasteride can be. I became a completely different person when I recovered. I felt so damn good that, at this point, I would prefer being completely bald and feeling that way than to feel even just average with a full head of hair. Luckily, I don't think I have to compromise. I think I can have both once I've fully recovered from finasteride for the second time, which coming soon.

Finasteride use is simply not worth it. You trade your entire essence and holistic bodily health for marginally better hair (at least for most people that use it). Some can tolerate finasteride better than others because their genetic enzymology is different from others' and they're less systemically affected, but, I believe not only does it eventually catch up with them, finasteride is also less effective in people that don't experience as many side effects... and generally don't realize how it affects them because the change can be very gradual (again, depending on the person).

a) where did you copy that from?
b) how horrible have you been before, when your current self is supposed to be the better one?
c) thats why you use a system...

 

[Caillou]

I've "really lost hair" of course but back then I was like oh well I'll get a couple transplants

Which I did but now I really need to keep it

Try maintaining with Zix + Dermarolling combo if you're afraid of finasteride. If after 6 months you still continue to lose hair you can make a different decision by then

 

[DoctorHouse]

I've "really lost hair" of course but back then I was like oh well I'll get a couple transplants

Which I did but now I really need to keep it

You made a huge investment and sacrifice to get to where you are now. And if you can't at least maintain what you invested in, then was it really worth all that time and sacrifice in the first place. I think you already know what you need to do deep down inside. But go topical and see how you do. If you have issues you can always try Proxiphen. PM if you want to know more about Proxiphen.

 

[justinbieberscombover]

Try maintaining with Zix + Dermarolling combo if you're afraid of finasteride. If after 6 months you still continue to lose hair you can make a different decision by then

I'm not losing hair right now, haven't in a long time. I thought I've reached my final pattern

I'd rather take finasteride than dermaroll

 

[Caillou]

I'd rather take finasteride than dermaroll

This is extremely retarded. So you would rather take a drug that is guaranteed to affect you to some extent in the long run and messes with your most potent male hormone (which affects your energy, sex drive, penile functions, cognitive functions and God knows what else), than to use a simple device like a Dermapen for 20 mins every couple of weeks with zero side effects?

 

[justinbieberscombover]

This is extremely retarded. So you would rather take a drug that is guaranteed to affect you to some extent in the long run and messes with your most potent male hormone (which affects your energy, sex drive, penile functions, cognitive functions and God knows what else), than to use a simple device like a Dermapen for 20 mins every couple of weeks with zero side effects?

Yeah with finasteride you just pop a pill and it's over

Wounding my scalp for 20 minutes sounds weird

 

[vondoom]

doesnt even take 20 minutes...

 

[vondoom]

i give you another reason: if you dont and your hair is gone one day, czecha, feelsbad and their gang are going to make fun of you, or worse, tell you they were right...

 

[doubleindemnity]

My opinion. Don't take finasteride if you're unsure or worried about the sides for good reason (good reason being that you experienced trouble last time you tried it). If you're going to lose hair, let it happen. Will it hurt more or less the second time? If somebody said to me that I can go back in time and live 2 years with hair, and then I go back to bald, and I'd have to pay half my life savings for it, I'd say hell yes. So enjoy the hair that you have and let it go when the time comes. Each day that you have as you are right now is a gift.

 

[Caillou]

Yeah with finasteride you just pop a pill and it's over

Wounding my scalp for 20 minutes sounds weird

I mean i would rather wound my scalp for 20 mins every couple of weeks than turn into a beta b**ch eventually by f*****g with my most potent hormone

I wish i had a choice to not use this sh*t, but i would most likely suicide if i went NW7 so it's either side effects or death for me