New FDA Clinical Trial Autologous Hair Follicle Cells

freakout

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Looks good!

In one experiment done with a single person, only 1 out of 15 cells developed into a hair follicles.

But don't despair, this may involve a new technology.
 

freakout

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1 in fifteen chances each cell will develop into a new follicle.

It's also impossible for technicians to orient where hair will point towards when they grow. It's likely going to appear like pubic hair rather than scalp hair because they go to any direction.

The absence of sebum in these follicles will also mean that mean they will feel more like dog hair but dog hair will look better because of aesthetic orientation.
 

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freakout said:
It's also impossible for technicians to orient where hair will point towards when they grow. It's likely going to appear like pubic hair rather than scalp hair because they go to any direction.The absence of sebum in these follicles will also mean that mean they will feel more like dog hair but dog hair will look better because of aesthetic orientation.

I wonder how much it will cost for this pubic dog hai :) r
 

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optimus prime said:
I wonder how much it will cost for this pubic dog hai :) r
hmmm... let's see.
Human scalp contains about 150,000 folicles.
considering that you will have to return 15 times for 5 years at least.
If you opt for 20,000 cells;
injected equidistantly from one another;
considering a 1 in 15 chance that each cell will develop;
multiply that 15 by 20,000 cells = 300,000 cells

How long and how difficult will it be to inject EACH CELL equidistantly?
If you put a $1 price tag for each, that'll be $300,000.

I doubt $1 for each would pay for it unless they develop a system.

These is also a question of: Will these follicles meet their demise to male pattern baldness?

cheap huh? :)
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No new sebaceous glands will be generated but the old glands might still be functional. These are completely independent of hair follicles.
 

F-M-DHT

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freakout said:
optimus prime said:
I wonder how much it will cost for this pubic dog hai :) r
hmmm... let's see.
Human scalp contains about 150,000 folicles.
considering that you will have to return 15 times for 5 years at least.
If you opt for 20,000 cells;
injected equidistantly from one another;
considering a 1 in 15 chance that each cell will develop;
multiply that 15 by 20,000 cells = 300,000 cells

How long and how difficult will it be to inject EACH CELL equidistantly?
If you put a $1 price tag for each, that'll be $300,000.

I doubt $1 for each would pay for it unless they develop a system.

These is also a question of: Will these follicles meet their demise to male pattern baldness?

cheap huh? :)
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No new sebaceous glands will be generated but the old glands might still be functional. These are completely independent of hair follicles.


I can't Imagine that they'll be counting each cell they put into your scalp lol... more likely a price related to the treatment area size.

Thanks for the post however. There's been a lot of talk about this company (trichoscience aka replicel), they have a complete website coming out in the 2nd quarter of this year for those that don't know and have had some healthy funding last year I believe.

Where did you get the 1 in 15 cells create follicles information from?

Although I am very skeptical about thiese sort of techniques it's good to see another company doing something very similar to Aderans research institute and may provide a bit of healthy competition The more runners in the race the more likely you're going to get a finisher right?
 

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The figure 1/15 came from someone who did experiment on his own involving just 15 derma papilla cells. Only one became a follicle.

The figure is wild and cannot be used statistically. This experiment probably involves a more advanced replication method and will probably produce much higher results.
 

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If you have it injected to your scalp, it won't matter if you still have the 'old' follicles since they're in miniaturized form.

That one person injected the 15 cells in different parts of his body.

My guess is, SOME test subjects in this experiment will NOT develop new follicles but rather the cells will be killed by the harsh scalp condition unless they were chosen as good candidates.
 

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freakout said:
If you have it injected to your scalp, it won't matter if you still have the 'old' follicles since they're in miniaturized form.

That one person injected the 15 cells in different parts of his body.

My guess is, SOME test subjects in this experiment will NOT develop new follicles but rather the cells will be killed by the harsh scalp condition unless they were chosen as good candidates.


Ok I want to verify something. If you get this shot can it activate sites on your head where the follicle is dead not dormant??

And furthermore I would conclude that under a microscope it would be very easy to tell where on your head where hair used to grow. Like on my head for instance i can tell by looking up close on a spot where hair no longer grows that there used to be a follicle in that region due to the poreish apprearance of that region almost looks like a minature hole where the hair follicle used to grow out of.

So would this new technique simply reactive old dead follicles?
 

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finfighter said:
dabritz said:
freakout said:
If you have it injected to your scalp, it won't matter if you still have the 'old' follicles since they're in miniaturized form.

That one person injected the 15 cells in different parts of his body.

My guess is, SOME test subjects in this experiment will NOT develop new follicles but rather the cells will be killed by the harsh scalp condition unless they were chosen as good candidates.


Ok I want to verify something. If you get this shot can it activate sites on your head where the follicle is dead not dormant??


So would this new technique simply reactive old dead follicles?

We don't know anything for sure yet, the trial hasn't been completed yet, the outcome of the trial will answer these questions. but my assumption is that it will spawn a new hair follicle, stem cells can replicate any other cells in the body, depending on where they are administered, and result in new tissue formation....
And then it will only be another 50 years before this treatment becomes economically viable ;)
 

freakout

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... If you get this shot can it activate sites on your head where the follicle is dead not dormant??

And furthermore I would conclude that under a microscope it would be very easy to tell where on your head where hair used to grow. Like on my head for instance i can tell by looking up close on a spot where hair no longer grows that there used to be a follicle in that region due to the poreish apprearance of that region almost looks like a minature hole where the hair follicle used to grow out of.

So would this new technique simply reactive old dead follicles?
I'm an IT professional and no expert on the subject of hair so consider this a guessing game :) I would appreciate someone else providing more difinitive answers.

These cells won't activate or repair recipients sites. Instead they grow into specific tissues or organs. Follicles are tiny organs. My guess is the cells are or were differentiated already before the injection. It's impossble to achieve 100% success rate. My best guess is way below 50%.

Finding the old sites is technically possible. The question are feasibility and practicality of it.

But the more important question is, would it be wise to inject the cells into a site where a follicle seems to be commanded into shrinking? Remember, they'll be using cells replicated from your own and could receive the same command to shrink.

FDA approval will probably be quicker since they will be injecting you with cells replicated from your own. This is not a drug test and it's fairly quicker to tell if these will turn into cancer cells or not, which is very unlikely.
 

waynakyo

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great
it is taking place in the ocuntry of georgia
i don t know why but i don t have high hopes or another tatonnement in georgia
 

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waynakyo said:
great
it is taking place in the ocuntry of georgia
i don t know why but i don t have high hopes or another tatonnement in georgia

True, that is a bit off-putting but be aware there are many scientists of integrity in the most unlikely countries.

Also Google some of the sponsors who are all American/Western European (I've filled in the blanks on the countries):
TrichoScience Innovations, Inc. (USA)
PHARMALOG Institute for Clinical Research (Germany)
PRA International (USA)
Innovacell Biotechnologie (Austria)
DatInf (Germany)
The Hair and Skin Research and Treatment Center (USA)
 
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