Nizoral - A must?

[Swede]

Hi,
I have been on Propecia, Tricomin and Nizoral 2% for about 5 months.
The nizoral shampoo really dries out my hair and scalp. I have no big problem with itch or anything and use nizoral twice a week. My question is if you have to use this shampoo. I am wondering if it maybe does more harm than good to me. I want to use minoxidil but there is no way my scalp and hair can handle both minoxidil and nizoral. My hair feels so strawlike and flat after I use nizoral. Could it do more harm than good?

 

[Private Ryan]

if nizoral is hard on your hair, you can try other anti-dandruff shampoo which will still help with scalp health...

of course, other shampoo might not have the suspected mild anti-DHT effect that nizoral might have...

 

[Aplunk1]

One of the side effects of the 2% Nizoral (ketoconazole) is hair loss. If you feel that it's making your hair worse, then you should stop using it and talk to your dermatologist or doctor.

Nizoral is useful in Propecia treatment. The active ingredient, ketoconazole, is a mild anti-androgen. It helps to dull the androgen receptor in your hair follicle, thus preventing any circulating DHT from binding to the receptor.

In theory and in study, ketoconazole is a suitable treatment for male pattern baldness. Two applications weekly show very positive signs.

However, if you wish to quit Nizoral (an option you and your doctor should consider), you can try Neutrogena's Coal Tar shampoo. It has anti-inflammatory agents. This is the same shampoo used by many patients in the Propecia trials.

If your hair becomes limp, frail, dry, etc.., from using the shampoos, try applying a moisturizing shampoo after application of Nizoral or T/Gel. Tea tree oils supposedly have some ability to minimize hair loss and promote regrowth, as well as free fatty acid-based shampoos (Revivogen, Nioxin, etc.)

Minoxidil can be very harsh on the scalp. Make sure you use only use the necessary amount, every time. In my experience, minoxidil has been the cause of inflammation and hair loss. To help combat the inflammation, I started shampooing with Nizoral and T/Gel more often, and have added a copper peptide formula as a post-minoxidil scalp conditioner.

Inflammation needs to be controlled at all costs. Don't let inflammation and irritation be the cause of further hair loss.

Treatments have side effects, and I believe that inflammation and irritation are part of it.

Do your scalp a favor, and use the right shampoos, and add a scalp conditioner to your regimen if you get the slightest irritation.

 

[Petchsky]

A good alternative is use the nizoral at night, or at sometime when you know you're not going out. I never use it as my morning shampoo. If I use it in the evening, when I sleep my scalp makes enough natural oil my hair returns to normal the next day.

 

[Swede]

Thanks for your input.
I am using a moisturizing agent after nizoral, then tricomin. This has helped a little but not good enough.

Right now I am thinking of dropping nizoral completly. Could it be a good idea to just use it once a while when you feel you need it. The problem is that I want to combat my hairloss in any way possible. Therefore I dont want to drop the nizoral if it is potentially able to help me. But the problem is that I dont know if it is helping. As I said I feel that it makes my hair worse.
I used propecia with good results before and my experience was similar to what I experience right now. I stopped because I thought it was not helping me, but it sure was helping me. I know that now.
Anyhow I dropped the nizoral that time because of the side effects I have now, dry hair etc. I think my hair and scalp got better after dropping nizoral that time so maybe it is wise to do it now again.
If you dont want to use harsh shampoos like Nizoral, T-gel and others, is it enough if you just try to keep your scalp and hair as helthy as possible?

 

[Aplunk1]

If you dont want to use harsh shampoos like Nizoral, T-gel and others, is it enough if you just try to keep your scalp and hair as helthy as possible?

Definitely. I don't believe that Nizoral will ultimately make a huge difference in your hair. It's the Propecia. Minoxidil works even better with Propecia!

Just try different shampoos out. I think your scalp should be as healthy as possible.

 

[techprof]

swede,
use it once a week and at very low dose. don't drop it. nizoral is a must in my opinion.
It helps with inflammation and dandruff.

 

[ttwarrior1]

what if you have never had dry scalp or dandruff ever in your life. What does nizoral do then?

 

[Aplunk1]

what if you have never had dry scalp or dandruff ever in your life. What does nizoral do then?

It dulls the androgen receptor.

Oh yeah, about my comment above: "Minoxidil works better than Propecia!" -- I meant that it's better in terms of hair counts.