Not going bald right now but 100% sure it won't take long...

[INT]

Hi all,

I have an obession...

I'm 20 years old and I have awesome thick, dark and curly hair. It's kind of long since a few years and no one knows me without my curls. It's just a part of my identity.
A few years ago I found out that male pattern baldness was genetic. I was shocked... Because:

My dad start going bald in his early 20's
My mothers dad started going bald in his late 20's

In other words: I'M SCREWED!

Since then, there hasn't been a single day in my life that I didn't think about losing my precious hair

Acception is not an option for me, I would do ANYTHING Telogen Effluvium keep my hair like the way it is for at very least till I'm 30.

That's why I need your advice.
Till this day I think there are no big signs male pattern baldness had kicked in. I check my hairline once in the two days and I haven't seen any big changes. Allthough I must say that one day I think I see something but then the other day it's good again.

Here's the question:
Is it an option to go on proscar (ore something else) allready for the best result even if I'm not losing my hair YET. They say the sooner in your male pattern baldness you start taking meds the better...
I've always had a forhead that was a little higher than average but my thick hair can cover that pretty good. I only don't want it to get much worse...

Apologies for my Englisch it's not my firs language.

PS: my dad's dad isn't bald... weird

 

[joshua88]

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[hairrific]

The best time to use a 5ar inhibitor like finasteride (Proscar or Propecia) is before you see scalp hair loss due to DHT damage, because most hair gone is gone for good there is no way to grow the majority of it back, another words it is easier to keep your hair or halt hair loss than replace or regrow your hair. But hell if I know how a person can judge when to take finasteride as there is no pre-test that revealing when or if ones hair will become genetically sensitive to DHT. Maybe a miniaturization test but my god, it is not so high tech and it did not help me or give me an early warning!

If you see the ads for Propecia it is of a older guy who has already started losing his hair. The problem is he should of started finasteride before that but I suppose the industry knows you can't target or convince most guys with a full head of hair he might loss his hair.

Just my opinion, if you know you have male pattern baldness get on finasteride immediately, like yesterday is better before DHT has a chance to do damage.

Another opinion of mine, the lower your DHT the less of a chance of ever losing your hair, and you can take it lower if necessary, at zero how could you lose hair? Again the industry won,t say that at all.

And my last opinion, I personally would have done finasteride if I had it or knew of it at 20 or younger even with no male pattern baldness or genetics for it, because I don't need, nor desire excessive secondary male characteristics, but that is just me. Something else the industry does not talk about.

 

[Fender89]

harrific... :gay: ?

you're making it sound like a simple vitamin that makes you less hairier or something lol. I guess you did say it was just your opinion

 

[hairrific]

Opinion based on the studies I have read and user experiences as well.

 

[Bryan]

The best time to use a 5ar inhibitor like finasteride (Proscar or Propecia) is before you see scalp hair loss due to DHT damage, because most hair gone is gone for good there is no way to grow the majority of it back, another words it is easier to keep your hair or halt hair loss than replace or regrow your hair.

I certainly agree with that! Hair loss is certainly one of those things where "an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure"!

 

[BornIn89]

I think people on this forum should stop advising people to take serious medication without even going to see a doctor, especially when he isn't even losing his hair!

 

[INT]

I think people on this forum should stop advising people to take serious medication without even going to see a doctor, especially when he isn't even losing his hair!

I went to a dermatologist in october '09. He said that he couldn't see any signals op male pattern baldness. Funny thing was that he was in proscar too unk: .
He was round his 40's and still had a NW2. He said that he'd been taking it for about 10 years.

Another question:

I heard that a shedding will take place when you start taking proscar because al lot of the DHT-infected years will fall out before they turn into stronger hairs.

Is that true?
Taking that in mind, would that say that I won't have a shedding when I start taking proscar for an example tomorrow because I don't really have DHT-infected hair?

 

[andrei_eremenko]

first of all...is not necessary to have a shed...and you can thin even if you're not loosing hair(like my case)...be careful with this thing...i was looking in the mirror for 3 years...and I said to myself that I have naturally thin hair...but it wasn't so...I'm thinning...that's why I began proscar...1.25 mg...

 

[Hoppi]

I think people on this forum should stop advising people to take serious medication without even going to see a doctor, especially when he isn't even losing his hair!

I completely, completely agree

And hmm I didn't know anything about a finasteride shed.. maybe.. they're only going to be the old telogen hairs anyway though

Anywho yeah like, there is loads you can do about male pattern baldness, and IMO lots of things can trigger it to happen, even if it is genetic. For me, I partly suspect genetic hypothyroidism as a cause for my hair loss, I'm not sure but I certainly think it's possible.

 

[s.a.f]

Hoppi I noticed you wear glasses, just curious do you also think your diet and lifestyle are to blame for your eyesight aswell?

 

[Hoppi]

Hoppi I noticed you wear glasses, just curious do you also think your diet and lifestyle are to blame for your eyesight aswell?

No that's a combination of genes and too many hours spent at computer screens lol

Incidentally though some things can cause (partial or full, depending on the person and condition of eyesight) myopic regression.

 

[hairrific]

I heard that a shedding will take place when you start taking proscar because al lot of the DHT-infected years will fall out before they turn into stronger hairs.

Is that true?
Taking that in mind, would that say that I won't have a shedding when I start taking proscar for an example tomorrow because I don't really have DHT-infected hair?

Not true. There is no finasteride shed like that. There is a possible Minoxidil shed if you use Minoxidil.

 

[hairrific]

I think people on this forum should stop advising people to take serious medication without even going to see a doctor, especially when he isn't even losing his hair!

BORING. Then in that case the majority of post on this forum should also be answered with your safe caned disclaimer: "We are sorry sir, no one on this forum is qualified to answer your question or to be trusted therefore sir I think you should see a doctor. We also like to thank you for being an indentured servant of the glorious collective Online Medical Program of China " :thumbdown2:

 

[INT]

Another question.
Somewhere I've red that finasteride works avarege for 7 years and than your hairloss will slowely go on.

With a guy like me who doesn't have male pattern baldness YET isn'it than just a waste if I start it allready?
If we take these 7 years for example my hairloss will slowely go on when I am 27.
But what if my actually hairloss just would start when i am 23 for an example. If I than start with proscar I can last it till I'm 30.

Isn't it jus a 3 year-waste if I start NOW?

 

[timbo]

Here we have a catch 22 with hair-loss treatments. It's better to treat male pattern baldness before it causes any hair loss. But you don't know if you need medication until after the hair loss occurs.

If I was smart enough, I would've started taking Propecia around age 20, before any miniaturization took place. But my family tree is littered with male pattern baldness. There is nothing wrong with taking Propecia preemptively if you feel like there is a high risk of male pattern baldness. You are almost certainly going to get some form of it at some point in your life anyway. Most men do, especially if it is very present in your family.

 

[INT]

Here we have a catch 22 with hair-loss treatments. It's better to treat male pattern baldness before it causes any hair loss. But you don't know if you need medication until after the hair loss occurs.

If I was smart enough, I would've started taking Propecia around age 20, before any miniaturization took place. But my family tree is littered with male pattern baldness. There is nothing wrong with taking Propecia preemptively if you feel like there is a high risk of male pattern baldness. You are almost certainly going to get some form of it at some point in your life anyway. Most men do, especially if it is very present in your family.

Thanks for the tip but what about the point I made in my post before yours?

 

[Hoppi]

Another question.
Somewhere I've red that finasteride works avarege for 7 years and than your hairloss will slowely go on.

With a guy like me who doesn't have male pattern baldness YET isn'it than just a waste if I start it allready?
If we take these 7 years for example my hairloss will slowely go on when I am 27.
But what if my actually hairloss just would start when i am 23 for an example. If I than start with proscar I can last it till I'm 30.

Isn't it jus a 3 year-waste if I start NOW?

dude I mean like, if it were me (and I know totally how you feel because I love my hair to bits), start with very mild treatments, and maybe get a complete blood test to see if anything is skew. Many things can cause hair loss, I mean it may even be some kind of food sensitivity although this is less likely in your case IMO.

Topically, if you decrease your follicles exposure to DHT with maybe a combo of stuff on here: http://www.endharlossnaturally.com/hair ... ts.DHT.htm - I am thinking of making a spray out of it as a milder alternative to something like spironolactone. A shampoo like regenepure might be good.. possibly a little overkill, if you do decide to use it then make sure you have healthy, strong testosterone levels as IMO you don't want to push them down.

Internally, you want to reduce inflammation, free radicals, DHT, insulin, cortisol, and have healthy T levels and managed E levels. There are many ways to achieve all this


But yeah, many people disagree with me on here but I don't really care lol, I'm fairly confident ^_^


Hoppi!



EDIT -- hmm ok, maybe I'll combine Hair Regain liquid with Spectral RS! That should do the job for now and then if needed I'll step it up to Spectral DNC and spironolactone and show hair loss the DOOR! lol

I may also use DNC on my hairline

 

[INT]

Another question.
Somewhere I've red that finasteride works avarege for 7 years and than your hairloss will slowely go on.

With a guy like me who doesn't have male pattern baldness YET isn'it than just a waste if I start it allready?
If we take these 7 years for example my hairloss will slowely go on when I am 27.
But what if my actually hairloss just would start when i am 23 for an example. If I than start with proscar I can last it till I'm 30.

Isn't it jus a 3 year-waste if I start NOW?

dude I mean like, if it were me (and I know totally how you feel because I love my hair to bits), start with very mild treatments, and maybe get a complete blood test to see if anything is skew. Many things can cause hair loss, I mean it may even be some kind of food sensitivity although this is less likely in your case IMO.

Topically, if you decrease your follicles exposure to DHT with maybe a combo of stuff on here: http://www.endharlossnaturally.com/hair ... ts.DHT.htm - I am thinking of making a spray out of it as a milder alternative to something like spironolactone. A shampoo like regenepure might be good.. possibly a little overkill, if you do decide to use it then make sure you have healthy, strong testosterone levels as IMO you don't want to push them down.

Internally, you want to reduce inflammation, free radicals, DHT, insulin, cortisol, and have healthy T levels and managed E levels. There are many ways to achieve all this


But yeah, many people disagree with me on here but I don't really care lol, I'm fairly confident ^_^


Hoppi!






EDIT -- hmm ok, maybe I'll combine Hair Regain liquid with Spectral RS! That should do the job for now and then if needed I'll step it up to Spectral DNC and spironolactone and show hair loss the DOOR! lol

I may also use DNC on my hairline

Thanks dude.
Well I think that I made my decision. After the summer I will take action. Why after the summer? Well I don't want to ruin all the cool stuff I am going to do in the summer with possible shedding-stress.

So what do you guys recommend me? On an other forum some guys told me that whatever I do with my current hairstatus that I should NOT start with minoxidil when my hair is still ok.

 

[Hoppi]

Right.. well it's tricky, because you see a lot of the things I would normally suggest: Good (read: great!) diet, multivits, natural hair stimulator, topical DHT reducers, hair nutrients, good shampoo, mild finasteride, low stress levels, not over-doing alcohol, all this junk, this stuff may not have the world's largest impact (although it will definitely help) if you are particularly genetically predisposed.

I would be tempted to get good blood test results, as it will show up anything like thyroid problems and other imbalances. Food intolerance testing.. maybe, but the bloods will probably show stuff anyway. This is just my view though like I said, and I always clash with most people on here! heh (although on a different forum EVERYONE views hair loss like this lol)

Oh, and if you hate blood tests / needles like I do you can get anaesthetic creams so they don't hurt lol