Not going bald right now but 100% sure it won't take long...

[timbo]

Thanks for the tip but what about the point I made in my post before yours?

The sooner you start, the more hair you will end up with in the long-run. You wouldn't be "wasting" the years that finasteride remains effective.

Here's a hypothetical situation...

Let's say that you were destined to start losing hair this week. If you are an excellent responder to finasteride, you probably wouldn't see any hair-loss for 2-3 years if you started right away. After that, the loss would occur at a much slower rate than without the drug.

It's always better to start earlier because finasteride (or any other treatment) won't grow back all the hair you lost, but it can keep it from falling out in the first place.

 

[INT]

Thanks for the tip but what about the point I made in my post before yours?

The sooner you start, the more hair you will end up with in the long-run. You wouldn't be "wasting" the years that finasteride remains effective.

Here's a hypothetical situation...

Let's say that you were destined to start losing hair this week. If you are an excellent responder to finasteride, you probably wouldn't see any hair-loss for 2-3 years if you started right away. After that, the loss would occur at a much slower rate than without the drug.

It's always better to start earlier because finasteride (or any other treatment) won't grow back all the hair you lost, but it can keep it from falling out in the first place.

Just 2 or 3 years? Wow that is not very much.
I've red stories about guys who are still getting regrowth after 24 months.

 

[INT]

Thanks for the tip but what about the point I made in my post before yours?

The sooner you start, the more hair you will end up with in the long-run. You wouldn't be "wasting" the years that finasteride remains effective.

Here's a hypothetical situation...

Let's say that you were destined to start losing hair this week. If you are an excellent responder to finasteride, you probably wouldn't see any hair-loss for 2-3 years if you started right away. After that, the loss would occur at a much slower rate than without the drug.

It's always better to start earlier because finasteride (or any other treatment) won't grow back all the hair you lost, but it can keep it from falling out in the first place.

Just 2 or 3 years? Wow that is not very much.
I've red stories about guys who are still getting regrowth after 24 months.

And those guys started when they were lika a Norwood 3

 

[timbo]

Just 2 or 3 years? Wow that is not very much.
I've red stories about guys who are still getting regrowth after 24 months.

24 months is 2 years. 2 years is usually when results max out. Sometimes it's 3 years.

You have to figure that you can't regrow anything, because you have all your hair. So the time that other people are trying to get back the hair they lost, you'll be enjoying your lush, curly locks

 

[jhart]

i think everyone on this forum would be satisfied if they can keep a thick nw2-2.5

 

[INT]

Just 2 or 3 years? Wow that is not very much.
I've red stories about guys who are still getting regrowth after 24 months.

24 months is 2 years. 2 years is usually when results max out. Sometimes it's 3 years.

You have to figure that you can't regrow anything, because you have all your hair. So the time that other people are trying to get back the hair they lost, you'll be enjoying your lush, curly locks

Yeah I know that 24 months is 2 years hehe.
But I heard this:

In the first 5-20 month you will get regrowth.
Than your status will stay stabillised for 6 years. From then the hairloss will slowly continue and in year 7 you will reach the same point where you were when you started finasteride.

 

[timbo]

The average person that regrew hair from Propecia started losing hair again after about 2 years. But they were still well above their baseline hair-count after 5 years. Here the study if you want to read it...

http://www.gourmetstylewellness.com/hair-loss-n ... geid-1.php

 

[INT]

The average person that regrew hair from Propecia started losing hair again after about 2 years. But they were still well above their baseline hair-count after 5 years. Here the study if you want to read it...

http://www.gourmetstylewellness.com/hair-loss-n ... geid-1.php

So an average person has his best hairstatus after two years, after then the hair status will go downhill but very slow? After 7 years he will reach the same status he got when he first started finasteride.
So is it possible that if you ad minoxidil to your regime after 2 years of finasteride and after 7 years you switch to dutasteride you can keep an Norwood 1 (or maybe go to a Norwood 1,5) at the age of 35 when your genetic programmed to be an Norwood 3.5 at the age of 35?

 

[hairrific]

Where you getting all that? There is no reason that finasteride should not work for you your entire life by preventing hair loss.

You cannot put everyone into those statistics because we all have different genetics for male pattern baldness. We know that some people have more aggressive male pattern baldness than others and that is the deciding factor, finasteride does not lose effectiveness over time. When or if you start losing on finasteride mostly depends on how aggressive your genetics for hair loss is.

Besides, the study posted dose not go past 5 years. Why would finasteride lose its effectiveness ever? I doubt a body builds up a resistance to it or something. It does not see it has low DHT and start figuring out a way to make the 5ar more efficient to produce more DHT to overcome finasteride.

The good news is that if your hair loss becomes aggressive then go off label and up the finasteride dosage or jump on dutasteride accordingly. The 1mg propecia size fits all is just a starting point for the Rx industry and the masses.

 

[Fender89]

man if you have no hairloss. forget about it until it starts then start treatment IMO.

 

[Hoppi]

In later life Curcumin and resveratrol will help more I believe (possibly/probably in conjunction with finasteride)

They increase T, lower E, inhibit 5ar, reduce links in the chain from DHT to death of the hair follicle, and reduce inflammation. They probably do other stuff too that I don't know about lol

Gotu Kola, schisandra and a good multivit might help too.

I wonder if finasteride's effectiveness on 5ar actually decreases over time It is possible but I don't know yet.

 

[hairrific]

About the 2 year thing....

ON THE AVERAGE, IT TAKES 2 YEARS TO START SEEING THE BEST RESULTS FROM USING finasteride.

It does not mean "after 2 years it is all down hill"....

Understand the difference?

Your own specific genetic factors will let you know how aggressive you must be in your hair loss regime and how you will respond to finasteride.

There is a study that says "15% of finasteride users will go on to be bald". THAT MEANS VERY GOOD ODDS THAT MOST WILL NOT.

 

[Bryan]

I wonder if finasteride's effectiveness on 5ar actually decreases over time It is possible but I don't know yet.

I don't know of even one whit of evidence to suggest such a thing. I don't think it's true.

 

[timbo]

About the 2 year thing....

ON THE AVERAGE, IT TAKES 2 YEARS TO START SEEING THE BEST RESULTS FROM USING finasteride.

It does not mean "after 2 years it is all down hill"....

Understand the difference?

According to the study, the best results were seen after 1 year, and during the second year, hair growth decreased on average from 90 to 80 hairs above baseline. By the fifth year, the average hair-count was 40 above baseline.

http://www.hairlosshelp.com/html/propecia5yrstudy.cfm

 

[bigjohnson]

people should really stop with this "fear of finast" as i call it.... i understand some people experience side effects (including myself) i have been on the drug almost 6 years and my hair line has not budged. i did experience some sides, a sensative bump on my left nipple for a few weeks years back but did i freak out? no i stuck it out and it soon went away never to return no sides what so ever in years and with minnox and finasteride my hair looks better at 26 than it did at 20 and thats the truth. it hasnt made me fat or "atrophic" if thats a word either lol im 6' 1" 160lbs solid muscle and even abs and i never exercise hell i never leave my couch and live a very unhealthy lifestyle (smoking bad diet etc) but i have a nice *** mane still and i hope to keep it forever with these great treatments and whatever else comes in the future. moral of the story is DONT BE AFRAID finasteride IS UR FRIEND TAKE THE PILL!!!! the truth is i would have been on this drug when i was like 16 if i knew about it or it was legal lol... the sooner the better finasteride MINNOX for life!! or however long they worrk their magic..... knock on wood

 

[Hoppi]

For the record, the IH regimen combined with a good diet may also shield you against hair loss



It works by buffering all the things which people who are genetically disposed to male pattern baldness may need. I'm on it ^_^

 

[SuprisedGuy]

people should really stop with this "fear of finast" as i call it.... i understand some people experience side effects (including myself) i have been on the drug almost 6 years and my hair line has not budged. i did experience some sides, a sensative bump on my left nipple for a few weeks years back but did i freak out? no i stuck it out and it soon went away never to return no sides what so ever in years and with minnox and finasteride my hair looks better at 26 than it did at 20 and thats the truth. it hasnt made me fat or "atrophic" if thats a word either lol im 6' 1" 160lbs solid muscle and even abs and i never exercise hell i never leave my couch and live a very unhealthy lifestyle (smoking bad diet etc) but i have a nice *** mane still and i hope to keep it forever with these great treatments and whatever else comes in the future. moral of the story is DONT BE AFRAID finasteride IS UR FRIEND TAKE THE PILL!!!! the truth is i would have been on this drug when i was like 16 if i knew about it or it was legal lol... the sooner the better finasteride MINNOX for life!! or however long they worrk their magic..... knock on wood

Hey awesome to hear you've maintained your hair, where do you buy your finasteride? Prescription or generic?

 

[bigjohnson]

Surprised Guy: I just get the RX from my general practictioner however thats spelled anyways... i have used the normal merck propecia as well as several generic five mg fins (depending on what the pharm has in stock) along with rogaine and might i add i have never experienced a shed or any of the other horror stories u see on here. as u can see i'm a long time member but i dont post much because i have had relative success. I think alot of people are like this... they come to this forum as i did figured out what to do and never returned because they solved their hair problems with no complications. anyways good luck to you!

 

[hairrific]

people should really stop with this "fear of finast" as i call it.... i understand some people experience side effects (including myself) i have been on the drug almost 6 years and my hair line has not budged. i did experience some sides, a sensative bump on my left nipple for a few weeks years back but did i freak out? no i stuck it out and it soon went away never to return no sides what so ever in years and with minnox and finasteride my hair looks better at 26 than it did at 20 and thats the truth. it hasnt made me fat or "atrophic" if thats a word either lol im 6' 1" 160lbs solid muscle and even abs and i never exercise hell i never leave my couch and live a very unhealthy lifestyle (smoking bad diet etc) but i have a nice *** mane still and i hope to keep it forever with these great treatments and whatever else comes in the future. moral of the story is DONT BE AFRAID finasteride IS UR FRIEND TAKE THE PILL!!!! the truth is i would have been on this drug when i was like 16 if i knew about it or it was legal lol... the sooner the better finasteride MINNOX for life!! or however long they worrk their magic..... knock on wood

I was healthy with a healthy lifestyle when I started finasteride and just do great. I think a healthy body adjust to finasteride and figures out what to do. We just don't get on here and post how good we are doing enough. Maybe because we don't have a big need for help and support as finasteride already has done that.

Not sure and I could be wrong but it seems to me that the unlucky few with finasteride problems already might of had a known or unknown boarder-line problem with hormones or a weight or sexual drive and then they got on finasteride and that's enough to tip the scales against them.

Also in the Merck clinical trails, they screened and used healthy individuals, in the real world who knows who's swallowing it.

 

[bigjohnson]

amen hairific! i totally agree... this msg board is filled with just horrors stories of probably unhealthy or overweight individuals (not that im one to talk as i dont consider myself healthy by any means) but i would say that most people using finasteride and minnox which they learned about on this message board are living happy hairful lives right now and just never came back to tell about it. i see alot of conspiracy theories flooding this board these days with herbal remedies and the old "stop wanking off" mantras when it's like "DUH SCIENCE PROVEN IT WORKS DO IT OR BE A CUE BALL" the longer u wait to bite the big3 bullet the more u are cheating yourself.... like i said in my previous post if i had the option and knowledge of finasteride and minnox back at age 16 i would have taken it religiously like i do now, sure it sux to take a pill and rub a chemical on your scalp but hey .... HAIR!! enough said.