Not sure if bald male pattern or not

[mr the hairy monkey]

Hello , I am 21 years old (male of course) and I was wondering what kind of hair loss did I have , this is a very weird one which isn't as it is described on the Norwood chart.

Knowing that:

*I lose way less than 100 hair/day unlike people affected by BMP.
*My temples and hairline are regular.
*I've used minoxidil 5% for 1 year and stopped it right afterwards because of lack of results , without ANY side effect (not even losing a huge amount of hair within the 1st month of use , as it was mentioned) , I probably stopped it because of the white scabs on my hair.
*My father is 62 and has a clean vertex / temples / hairline.
*According to the norwood thing , every BMP begins by receding temples, which is not my case , the only area affected is the top of the head.
*I am not a hardcore masturbator , only 2 times a week.

Can you guys please tell me what might that be ?

Thank you

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oh yes indeed I haven't seen this one before, thank you

edit : why has the post below been deleted ?
edit 2 : but still it shows slightly receding temples , which isn't my case

 

[dreamermerlin]

1. You shouldn't look only at your father, take into consideration your grandparents, uncles, on your mother's side also, etc
male pattern baldness genes are very "tricky", they can skip even more generations, etc.
Looking only at the father means nothing. There are cases of father with almost no balding at all at 55-60and son is nw5-6 at 25.


2. The asertion that male pattern baldness begins by recending temples is false. I know, i see everyday men with no recession in the hairline, but with thin crown/even completely bald crownm but strong hairline.
IIn your case, i think it looks like male pattern baldness thinning in the crown, unfortunately.
There are many "patterns" of male pattern baldness:
-some people lose the hairline, it can even move way above the head, and can maintain perfect crown
-others can have a completely shining crown but strong hairline, or little recession/thinning in the hairline
-others lose hair both from the hairline and crown.

But you're right. Norwood stages present the situation like the balding should always start from the frony but in reality this is not true.

 

[James Moody]

The Norwood-scale is an abstraction (as well as all the other charts). The most important thing is not the pattern, but the characteristics of your hair follicles.

 

[mr the hairy monkey]

Hello again ,

@dreamermerlin : thank you very much for this clear explanation that made me understand that in fact , only a soothsayer would know what will happen to my hairline in the next years , and that Norwood is in some few cases such as mine, some sort of crook , I was confused in the first place because of the minoxidil's notice saying that if someone does not fit with some image printed on it (norwood temples) do not start taking minoxidil.


Quite frankly being bald in the crown only doesn't bother me as long as my hairline and front of the head is clean. I don't think I'll start taking minoxidil once again for it.

Furthermore , a crown baldness is easy to hide (as converting to Judaism and wearing that small round hat )

for my uncles : one is full haired (at almost 60 years old) , one is at norwood 3 (around 50), one is completely bald (50 as well) and the oldest one is at notwood 3 (70).
It's up to my luck then.

the thing that confuses me even more is the fact that I lose a very negligible amount of hair per day. it's enough not to take minoxidil.

@James Moody : thank you for the reply , you are the one who sent the first message that was deleted (showing my case (3) ) it should have been kept , thanks to it I've understood that hair loss can go in both sides (temples -> crown , crow-> temples).

from now on I'll try to eat more vegetables , see if it does something about my hair follicles.

once again , thank you guys

 

[GoldenMane]

Yeah, don't worry about the pattern, it looks like only your crown is thinning, and finasteride works like a charm for that area.

 

[Digidako]

Hop on finasteride, you won't regret it

 

[mr the hairy monkey]

@GoldenMane & Digidako : thank you for the replies
I don't think that I'll start taking finasteride , it's like minoxidil and it didn't do anything (along one year of application)

EDIT : oh finally this message has been approved by the moderation

 

[mr the hairy monkey]

thank you for all your answers , the more I say the more chances that my post is being deleted. as it was the case for my 2 previous messages in here

 

[der29]

lol who told every male pattern baldness begins by the temples. thinning crown is one of the classic signs of male pattern baldness. everyone differs in where they begin their balding.

 

[mr the hairy monkey]

der29 arigato for your answer as well.

If it's only the crown it doesn't really bother me I'll just have to wear a kippa and that's it (even if I don't have the religion) , but I was wondering if the area between the crown and the hairline (on the pictures above) was normal ? there are some sort of very little bald spots .

actually I've found an actor that has exactly those same bald spots , even a crown balding without the hairline affected.

check out these pictures below and tell me if those spots are considered male pattern baldness :

http://www.google.fr/imgres?sa=X&bi...r=330&page=1&start=0&ndsp=36&ved=0CL4BEK0DMB4

http://www.aufeminin.com/people/wentworth-miller-sp108190.html

thank you

Edit : why I am having a moderation approval for some posts and not the others ? still it has been 3 days and my post isn't displayed yet

Edit 2 : about finasteride I don't think that I'll begin it ,whenever I take these drugs I feel weak (I've taken 2 different branded minoxidil sprays for 1 year) and then stopped

Edit 3 : after second thoughts , I have 2 and half a bottle left that expire on january the first of 2015.
Instead of throwing away a 50€ worth product I'll resume the treatment and see if it does anything , after all ...if it doesn't work , the hair that wasn't meant to fall out will not fall because of me stopping minoxidil , will it ?

means that : I am back in business :gay2:

 

[badgenome]

I would start with minoxidol as it works great on the crown and save finasteride for later IF you need it.

 

[mr the hairy monkey]

Hello badgenome thank you for your advice.

hopefully that will only stay at the crown area. if so , it doesn't bother me


there are other pictures that I've just taken , of what I was talking about above and the wentworth miller's case:

what do you think ? should I worry or should I not ? weirdly enough there isn't any important amount of hair falling off from this area, and that's this area that I was treating with minoxidil the last year before stopping (for lack of the slightest result).

can it be caused by stress or a weak diet (I don't eat enough vegetables and fruits)

thank you

 

[der29]

you do realize that it can start to thin out at the crown and then proceed to the frontal area and temples.

 

[mr the hairy monkey]

you do realize that it can start to thin out at the crown and then proceed to the frontal area and temples.

well yes I believe that is the case , but apparently very few people have it , it should be added to the Norwood-Hamilton scale , albeit uncommon but existent.

moreover , my hair is almost "not shedding" or at least punctually (1 time every two weeks , sometimes one time per month ... unpredictable) and it's usually between 10->60 hair fallen . this is the thing that confuses me the most.

actually , having a "monk baldness" is pretty cute xD , but only if it doesn't extend to the forehead.

I am still confused , what do you think about the above pictures ? stress ? weak diet?

my hair doesn't shed regularly as said , that's the principal thing of a male pattern baldness isn't it ?

edit : I've taken monkey as a nickname because of the monk style bald patch that I am about to have , not because I am african