Now i know.Bald=No life

[mr the hairy monkey]

Nickola , if you are filling your mind with negative thoughts and being pessimist all time about it , it will be reflected on your behaviour ,help yourself and life will help you.

be objective , be rational , if I am crippled for example I am not going to cry about it all my life , what happened happened , just do what is best for yourself to counter it as efficiently as possible.

 

[mr the hairy monkey]

Easy for you to say as a thick NW1 hairy monkey.

I am here to cheer people up , if you want so much to keep the taunts going wait until the creation of a next nofap thread.

 

[2bald2young]

That feeling when you see your hair receding everyone even on my regimen is just horrible.

 

[hellouser]

Nickola , if you are filling your mind with negative thoughts and being pessimist all time about it , it will be reflected on your behaviour ,help yourself and life will help you.

be objective , be rational , if I am crippled for example I am not going to cry about it all my life , what happened happened , just do what is best for yourself to counter it as efficiently as possible.

Wait til you get to a higher norwood... you'll be singing a different tune.

 

[resu]

It's not that easy, baldness changes you, I'm not able to enjoy and be impressed by anything because of the mental shift that happened in order to accept this new "look".

Are bald men able to enjoy life as before? Some are, some aren't.

 

[hellouser]

It's not that easy, baldness changes you, I'm not able to enjoy and be impressed by anything because of the mental shift that happened in order to accept this new "look".

Are bald men able to enjoy life as before? Some are, some aren't.

It's not just social rejection that's the problem... it's also your identity being stolen from you. Social rejection is just salt on the wound.

 

[Nickola]

Wow wow guys,let me get this clear...To those who come here and try to make us look weak saying:it`s not the end of the world,there are more important things than hair,look at your career,your family,build up confidence(who are prob people nw2 or 2.5).
Let me explain you something:
If i was fat,i would go to the gym
If i was skinny,i would go to the gym
If i had ugly teeth or smile,i would put braces
If i had big ears,i would cover themm with a nice hairtyle(long hair maybe)
If i was short(well who the f4ck says women hate short guys?I got tons of friends who look like hobbits in height,and they got hot gfs)They got hair as well
If i had cancer i would do chemiotherapy(except fatal types of cancer like aids,that still it would be my fault if i wasnt getting any protection,or smoking cancer,my fault that i smoke so much) and many more
The thing that i am 25 years old Nw4 IS NOT MY F4CKING FAULT AND THERE IS N-O-T-H-I-N-G I CAN DO ABOUT IT.MMMMMMMMK?

Do you know how it is to loose yourself?To don`t know who you are anymore,to face behavors from others you never faced before,and wonder why,all the time..Do you know how it is to have memories of the person you used to be before the hairloss,and those memories to seem unreal,like it was someone`s else life.A life full of hapiness,sadness at the same time(you can`t be always happy),friends,parties,people around you,connections,emotions,feelings,activities,trips,experiences.Do you know how it is to actually BE JEALOUS of the guy you used to be,before hairloss?

Being bald makes you look ugly,ok?At least uglier than you look like with hair.Society dont like ugly people.Ok?So,if you receive all these negative behavor from the society,all this ignorance,what is going to happen?You prefer to stay alone,away from all these normal people.YOU ARE NOT NORMAL anymore,you are bald!You dont want to do activities anymore,you dont want to save money for trips anymore,you are not happy with your mirror anymore,you dont even laugh with jokes that you would laugh before your hairloss just cause you were simply happy.
You are living a nightmare.Even going out to buy cigarretes is fun when you are good looking and you have hair...ANYTHING YOU DO BEING BALD ISNT FUN THOUGH,cause you are bald,you are different,normal people dislike you,there are no oportunities like before,there are no open doors,there are no experiences,no emotions cause you prefer to stay home alone no matter how super social you used to be.Home alone makes you a zombie.

Human being born to be social,to learn every day something new from others,to live,to experience something new,to fall in love,to discover the uknown...Being bald and banned from your society,just wanna makes you stay home.

Maybe i sound too much,too drama queen,maybe it is just too fresh for me,cause i used to have hair 2 years ago,but i am sure i am not a psychopath and all the things i said are real fact and not in my mind.Some people here will feel me.Sorry for my broken english
thank you

 

[yadayada029]

This part is false. You'll definitely care when your 30 or 80. I'm 30 and I care now more than ever. If you haven't landed a wife yet... this is when things start to worry you as you KNOW your chances are pretty ****ty in finding someone at 30+ AND balding on top.

You'll realize this when your 30 and as bald as you are now or fully bald.

Exactly right. I'm 38 and I can tell you the anxiety is really high at this age also. The same as in your 20's? I couldn't say. However, there are no shortage of guys in the 40s and 50s waiting to line up for some miracle cure.

 

[2bald2young]

You can save some money and go to a top surgeon like I did.

And don't give me the usual BS: "But it's too expensive!" "But my donor is thinning too!" "But it won't give me a thick NW1!"

I'd never have thought I would say this here but: stop whining and do something about it.



I was NW5 at 23. Check the FUE hair transplant thread in my signature if you want more information.

ehm BS?

- Not everyone has a lot of money at their disposal and simple can't afford a hair transplant, yes you can work your *** off but still for some people it can be too much.
- If your donor hair is also thinning it means that your donorhair is also sensitive for dht so it would be very stupid to take a expensive hair transplant to see your hair fall off after a couple of years. So saying I can't take a hair transplant because my donor is thinning too thus my donor is also dht sensitif and will fall of is a valid reason not to get one.

I agree that a hair transplant gives the best results, but it is not the solution. Just because you had good results doesn't mean it is a miracle cure. Some have good results with minoxidil others not.

Stop whining and do something about it? Fred what happened to you? Did the successful (and yes I am happy for you that it was successful ) hair transplant went to your head? That is what the not hair loss sufferers always say. And btw if you look at my regimen I am doing something about it...

 

[2bald2young]

I've been labelled one of the worst baldness at a young age cases of Europe by a reputed surgeon, yet I've been able to do something about it.

If I can do it, anyone can do it. You donor area shouldn't thin, it's not part of the male pattern baldness process. If it is, you must have something else.

99% of NW5-6 and even 7 have normal donor area, sometimes very thick, sometimes below average, but not anything that wouldn't make a hair transplant possible.

The problem I often see here is that misery loves company and a lot of people don't want to acknowledge that something can be done for them.

They want to believe that all hope is lost and continue to whine endlessly about how they have the worst baldness ever and no solution is for them.

And it's always the same false excuses that are thrown out. The thing is, you don't want to be saved, you prefer to believe that your life is over because it's easier.

I know what I'm talking about, I've been in that position. I even wished I had DUPA at a point so I could somehow give in to irreversible baldness.

Wow. just wow... My donor area shouldn't thin and yet it does, also my father has very thin donor area. False excuses, I don't want to be saved like you can read my mind? No, I don't want to believe that all hope is lost, I want to be saved and I hate misery. Wtf men you just got a good hair transplant and immediately you are like, omg you guys are whining just get an expensive hair transplant and everything will be fine again! It worked on me so it must be the ultimate solution! You are immediately become a d*** after becoming a nw2 again and if someone doesn't agree with what you say you immediately target them and bombard them with red bars. I will never wish that I have dupa because then all hope is really lost :/. a lot of people don't want to acknowledge that something can be done for them? So wait now you are saying that everyone on this forum don't want to acknowledge that something can be done? I thought you knew that there aren't much treatments. No you don't know what you are talking about.

Yes a hair transplant can do a lot and yes you can do something about it with a hair transplant but it is not the ultimate solution or else everyone would have done it.


Nickola posts on this forum tells about how he lost a lot of his life quality and probably hopes that there are going to be people who will understand here and look what the 3rd comment is...

I forgot to tell you that I am already saving for a hair transplant, because maybe it is not the ultimate solution but at least something.

 

[resu]

I've been labelled one of the worst baldness at a young age cases of Europe by a reputed surgeon, yet I've been able to do something about it.

If I can do it, anyone can do it. You donor area shouldn't thin, it's not part of the male pattern baldness process. If it is, you must have something else.

99% of NW5-6 and even 7 have normal donor area, sometimes very thick, sometimes below average, but not anything that wouldn't make a hair transplant possible.

The problem I often see here is that misery loves company and a lot of people don't want to acknowledge that something can be done for them.

They want to believe that all hope is lost and continue to whine endlessly about how they have the worst baldness ever and no solution is for them.

And it's always the same false excuses that are thrown out. The thing is, you don't want to be saved, you prefer to believe that your life is over because it's easier.

I know what I'm talking about, I've been in that position. I even wished I had DUPA at a point so I could somehow give in to irreversible baldness and a broken life.

This is the same talk that people who didn't get sides from finasteride have and act like it's a cure if you start early, for some there aren't solutions out there, not even an hair transplant for various reasons including financial ones.

But I agree that you should try to make the best with what you have, this is why I say to not take anything you read on online forums at face value.

 

[jksl]

My point is, you can vent and complain, but you should at least try to do something about it. I'm glad to see you are saving for a hair transplant 2bald.

Except for the low scalp/hair contrast, I was one of the worst candidate possible for a hair transplant.

But I went for it anyway, I admit that I have already a good result for only 3 months after.

But the battle is not over for me, far from it. I will eventually lose the hair at the crown in 5-10 years, so other procedures will be necessary.

A hair transplant is only one of the tools in your arsenal. Use minoxidil, finasteride or even concealers if you have to. You can even use milk of magnesia to suppress the shine on your head.

I've said it before, everyone can save money for a hair transplant. And if you don't want to put money in one, then baldness must not be such a big deal for you.

I paid 4500€ (well 2250€ from me and 2250€ from my mother) for my FUE, and I would have paid double, even triple that to have the result that I'm starting to see.

You can't put a price on having hair. It is invaluable in today's society and dating market.

I agree that you can't put a price on hair. I am hoping for pilofocus to become available soon. Saved up enough money for a procedure. I mostly want my hairline back. I'm nw3 and beginning stages of crown thinning. Using minoxidil at the moment and don't know if it's working. Staying away from Propecia because I'm dealing with some ED already and don't want to risk making it worse. Is Propecia necessary for a hair transplant? I don't mind if I have to do more procedures down the road. Heck, if I don't have any donor hair left for the crown in the future, I don't think I will care as much (I'll still care, but not as much as I do for the hairline). Hopefully by then, we'll have hair multiplication or something better.

anyway, staying relevant to this thread, I think the OP just wanted to vent his frustration. And I'm glad he did because it allowed me to do the same. We all need to vent sometimes and get it off our chest. But there is no telling whether or not that's all he is planning to do - just complain. Most people come here because they want to do something about it and are trying to figure out their options.

 

[jksl]

Okay that's good to know. I only asked because everytime I visit a hair transplant surgeon's website, they prescribe Propecia to "stabilize" the loss before the surgery...

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Yup, receding hairline is worse. The more it recedes, the more you feel like you're losing your identity.

 

[2bald2young]

Well after 20 years finasteride is still one of the best thing we have...

 

[blackg]

Cmon guys...just admit it..No woman is proud of a bald bf..Or be happy to introduce to her friends a bald man and say:that`s my man...
Even guys prefer to have best friends other guys mostly good looking or with hedas full of hair..
Just wake up...it`s not that people are mean or evil...It`s insticts..Its generics filters that we have inside us..
It`s like when you see a little cute puppy..Your insticts tell you to protect it,to hug it,to love it,to admire it cause it`s cute
What about the baby bald cacroaches though? Insticts telling you to avoid them...or worse..kill em..
Same with people...Girls see a cute guy,right away they smile,they get interested,they want more of him...
Girls see a bald ugly guy...What they do? Simply nothing...just avoid them..hahahaha
We are f4cked,i am telling you

There is so much truth in what you just said. Our initial impressions of a person are so important.
That's why bald men really struggle.

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To get it off his chest and get the a dose of reality that he isn't the only one in the situation. Talking about your issues helps a LOT, especially since he's here on gourmetstylewellness.com because if he were to open up in public like this, you know he'd be told to STFU and the privileges sh*theads with hair would deny everything about the troubles with being bald in a society thats vain and has BDD (its not us with BDD).

Such a smart post. Society is the one with BDD. I swear, my hairloss would only be half the issue it is in my mind....if society would just STFU and get over the fact that I'm balding noticeably.
Day to day living is a real ****in drag with all this constant "Dude! Your balding!" feedback.
Even if it's an unspoken message. We bald guys still get it!
Something the privileged (or low norwoods) can't quite fathom.

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Non-physical attributes are irrelevant. There are THREE strikes to being deemed unattractive by women:

1) Baldness
2) Obesity
3) Height

Honorable mention goes to being a redhead is another turnoff, but I never understood that one myself. Doesn't matter, if your bald or balding, you are NOT going to have it easy being accepted by women and men. Being a man is like being an ugly woman: you're gonna have to work. Unfortunately, baldness is seen as repulsive by women. Take Cristiano Ronaldo... this dude is capable of making a woman's labia quiver with excitement... put a receding hairline on him and it'll shrivel up in 2 seconds flat. So his status, confidence, money, intelligence, wit, etc. are meaningless. The problem is that too many people give the politically correct bullsh*t response saying 'oh no, women all want confidence in a man' which is just a cop out response to save face. Ask a woman on the street if she'd date a balding man and she'll say yes (because its politically correct). But if you were to present her with the dude's twin brother with a full head of hair.... you know damn well the bald guy is going to be left out to be one with the dust through which he trudged through life as a bald man. #foreveralone

I cannot take it anymore when people try to pull the wool over my eyes (and others) telling us that bald men don't have it that bad. This is incredibly delusional and god damn insulting, only further escalating the divide between those in higher social standing privileged with hair and the bottom feeders of society graciously given male pattern baldness. Positional good theory ONCE AGAIN. Society NEEDS bald men to create the comfort feeling of self worth. We are not meant to be happy and with a head of hair as it would jeopardize the social status and feelings of life satisfaction of others. Why else have researchers not done much for baldness? Take Dr. Angela Christiano for example... the only reason why Alopecia Areata is now on the cusp of being cured is because she had it and took matters in her OWN hands. Her work with arthritis drugs works. PGD2 discovery was made two years ago and what happened since? NOTHING. Angela Christiano *KNEW* nobody was going to give a fvck about her. Nobody gives a fvck about us either. PERIOD. It's every man/woman for himself. This lack of empathy is clear by how society views baldness and the need for a cure for it: A JOKE. Tell someone you want your hair back and they'll call you vain. Ask the same person if they'd date an individual with alopecia and they'll say no... but THATS not vain, is it?

Fvck society.

A major fooking plus1 for this!

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I agree with the OP. I went through the exact same experience. My attitude and personality didn't change until the people around me changed the way they behaved around me and treated me. For well over a year, I noticed subtle changes from those around me and I was confused as to why. However, I was the same me. I didn't have a reason to change. I actually didn't even notice my hairloss at the time either. I was too stupid to realize it at the time. I only remember looking in the mirror from time to time and thinking "why do I look so old?" One day at the doctors office (i went in to ask about dark lines on my nails - they're not cancerous thank goodness) and he noticed my hairloss and suggested Rogaine and Propecia. I thought to myself "I'm too young to be losing my hair. It looks fine" I was 24 or 25 at the time. Months pass and i buy a ball cap to wear at a ball game. For some reason i notice people treating me different. I didn't realize why at the time. But, through retrospection, it finally clicked and i freed myself from this naive state I was in. Before the hairloss, people were generally warm, inviting, approachable, etc. Hairloss begins and all of a sudden people treat you worse and become even hostile at times. So basically, I only started to have a problem with my hairloss because others started having problems with it first! Of course, I have to accept the situation, do my best to treat it as I go on living my life. But, don't tell me that hairloss has no bearing on how others perceive you and treat you because that's BS

Hell yeah! Another realist who is not oblivious! Although, to be fair, a nice head shape will minimise the harsh reactions from all those privileged fools out there with BDD.
I'm talking about the brainless masses here, guys.
Those robotic fuqks we all have to interact with on a daily basis.
Anyway... anyone who believes hairloss inspired negative reactions is all in OUR heads is either a complete oblivious fool...
Or someone severely in denial (but really knows the truth! No! Really FEARS the truth).
Tell it like it fuqking is!! That way we are all better off!