Now that Dr Lee is done, who's next?

[Mircalegro]

Or am i being too paranoid about things here? Do you think the FDA is going to start actively pursuing other companies like genhair, lipoxidil, etc? Or dr proctor?

 

[Bryan]

Dr. Proctor said in a post once a few years ago on alt.baldspot that the FDA _had_ looked at Proxiphen, and had no objection to it at that time. Of course, that was then, this is now. I have no idea if anything has changed in the intervening years to alter their opinion.

 

[anxious1]

i dont know but drugs are constantly being restricted. In australia now u have to give ur ID to get codeine and pseudioephedrine is no longer available. I know the reasons, but decades ago morphine was an over the counter drug.

and remember a few years ago there was talk of the fda restricting all herbs and supplements, apart from approved ones (which is fuk all of them because noone does the studies on them cos of money and lack of monetary incentive blah blah blah.)

so its a continual process. U can bet if that anti-fungal from monistat that eveyrones trying turns out to be a winner, it will suddenly become impossible to get without a vagina!

so its my opinion that all of these companies will get stopped from selling their custom combo's over the next few years.

i suspect the big companies like ashley and martin and advanced hair (in australia, don't know the big ones in US or UK, these companies do transplants and people pay thousands for their min, finasteride, dutasteride and laser hood usage) will get away with it somehow, maybe they have the money to fight it.


i gotta wonder though, where it will stop, i mean i currently take an anti-depressant - mirtazapine off-label for sleep, and its great, better than the alternatives which for me was anti-phychotics.

i also rely heavily on headaches pills for acute migraine, cluster headaches and not as severe daily headaches, such as sumotriptan, cafergot, and various forms of codeine. I'd crumble into a bed-ridden mess without these, but they r constantly getting more and more restricted.

 

[Jacob]

Dr. Proctor said in a post once a few years ago on alt.baldspot that the FDA _had_ looked at Proxiphen, and had no objection to it at that time. Of course, that was then, this is now. I have no idea if anything has changed in the intervening years to alter their opinion.

I wouldn't believe anything Dr. Proctor says either :whistle: He even states that it's not yet FDA approved..making it sound like he's working on that. With that and his idiotic claims..it'd be interesting to see what they'd have to say :woot:

 

[Bryan]

I wouldn't believe anything Dr. Proctor says either :whistle: He even states that it's not yet FDA approved..making it sound like he's working on that.

I rather doubt that. I don't think he has a billion dollars lying around just for him to invest in getting FDA approval for Proxiphen.

 

[Jacob]

I wouldn't believe anything Dr. Proctor says either :whistle: He even states that it's not yet FDA approved..making it sound like he's working on that.

I rather doubt that. I don't think he has a billion dollars lying around just for him to invest in getting FDA approval for Proxiphen.

Ah..DUH....the point is.. he's making it sound like he is going for FDA approval. He doesn't say in that comment "it's not FDA approved"..he says "it's not YET FDA approved". Very slick.

 

[Bryan]

I think this undue emphasis you're putting on ONE WORD is really just this silly "thing" you have against Dr. Proctor and his products. I've read him for years on alt.baldspot, and never once got the impression that he was even remotely considering getting FDA approval.

 

[Jacob]

It's in the description for the product. That is where it counts..he says "yet"..when there is no chance in you-know-where that it's going to be FDA approved. I don't care what he said in the groups/forums all these years while selling the crap.

 

[DoctorHouse]

Another Jacob vs Bryan thread............................ :shakehead: You two are like Tom and Jerry.................................. :whistle:

 

[Jacob]

What about Bryan and SF...Bryan and ________

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[elliotramsey]

This what will happen if someone every finds the "cure". The FDA will yank it in a flash.

 

[beaner]

I still don't understand why he is getting hassled when you can go to a doctor, get a prescription for the same thing, have a pharmacist compound it for you and be totally within the bounds of the law. What is the difference? Is it because he makes claims that these products grow hair?

 

[Jstalkens]

Wow, this is pretty crazy stuff because there are so many companies selling minoxidil related products. The home page talks about" NDA's" specifically and how much they would cost. My guess would be anyone selling minoxidil may be in risk. An IND (Investigational new drug application) is before you get an NDA and an ANDA (abbreviated new drug application) is typically used for generic's, which is required just to be able to sell minoxidil at a chemically equivalent standard based on already approved minoxidil drugs. That would cost a fortune, but how do you stop the hundreds or more of companies selling minoxidil products, not possible. He also probably had a registered facility with the FDA, who came in occasionally to investigate, so they were watching his practice closely.



We're very sorry to inform you that Regrowth LLC has to suspend all operations at this time. In an ongoing audit, the U.S. FDA has deemed our medications to be 'unapproved illegal drugs'. The exorbitant cost of new drug development precludes our pursuing New Drug Applications (NDAs).

Requests for new consultations and orders for medications cannot be processed.

Thank you for your cooperation and understanding.

Richard Lee, M.D.

 

[bonric07]

It is very simple why Dr Lee was shut down.
A compounded product needs to be prescibed by a Doctor and the script needs to be from the country that the compounded product comes from. With Dr Lee he was dispensing a compounded drug to anyone with a credit card. Some people will argue that it is just minoxidil and that it is safe however with the formula that Dr Lee used this could have dire consquences to a person with a cardiac issue.
If you want to use a compounded minoxidil you should be having it prescribed by a Doctor who knows what he or she is talking about. This appointment should also be face to face not a phone call or a web chat. Seriously this stuff can be dangerous to the wrong person.
With regards to big companies I would assume that they have Doctors in each one of their centres. I know Ashley and Martin does and this is why they have to charge more money for their treatments. However it means that the patients are safe from harm.

 

[ajax]

I'm surprised he hasn't set up a distribution centre somewhere like Asia to get around the FDA problem.

Anyone think this is likely to happen?

 

[hair4now]

With regards to big companies I would assume that they have Doctors in each one of their centres. I know Ashley and Martin does and this is why they have to charge more money for their treatments. However it means that the patients are safe from harm.

And I wouldn't be surprised if companies like Ashley & Martin contributed to the demise of Dr Lee's business by complaining to the FDA under the guise of protecting the consumer when their real intent is to eliminate the competition so they can continue ripping of customers. Also I don't believe Ashley & Martin have a doctor in every one of their centres.