Ot. Women Hypergamy Statement True Or False?

[redpilled]

Why would women be jealous of something they could do themselves?

Men dislike women who have had many partners for biological reasons. From an evolutionary perspective it's better to spread your genes with a girl who hasn't had sex recently. Plus it's more of a 'win' to get a girl who rarely gives it out. Finally, a girl who fucks around is less likely to be impressed by your sexual performance.

Two scenarios:-

1) a woman who's slept with 50+ partners eventually settles for one guy. Do you think his friends think he's lucky? Or a potential cuck to some Chad's baby? Let's face it - most people would see him as a cuck no matter what. No guy wants to be seen as a cuck. That in itself is shameful. If she had a reputation for sleeping around, then the chosen guy's reputation as a cuck is guaranteed. The guy would have to walk around with a DNA test certificate to prove he's the dad of his own kids to convince people he's not a cuck. A woman who's slept with tons of guys is worthless to a lot of guys for this very reason.

2) a man who's slept with 50+ partners eventually settles for one woman. Do you think her friends think she's lucky? He's had to win over 50+ women, then decides on one of them. She will always know it's his baby and her baby (provided she never sleeps around). She has the DNA in her children of a man who was selected by 50+ women.

It's nature folks. You're fine to hate nature, and think "drat, why can't nature be the way I want it to be?". Nature doesn't care about your identity politics sensitivities.

blackg, feel free to be seen as a cuck and settle with a woman who's got a reputation for sleeping around. Then realise how awkward you feel because of it.

 

[blackg]

Why would women be jealous of something they could do themselves?

Yes most women could do this but most women don't sleep around.
Social convention keeps the majority of women in their place. Has done for eons.

That's why people are jealous and envious of those who's lifestyles fly in the face of social convention.
They are viewed as truly free. Yet their peers will ensure to shame them for it. ENVY!!!

 

[blackg]

blackg, feel free to be seen as a cuck and settle with a woman who's got a reputation for sleeping around. Then realise how awkward you feel because of it.

Who's to say anything will be awkward? I'm not alive to please the arbiters of fine social behaviour.
That kind of bondage does nothing for me.
You can have it.

 

[redpilled]

Who's to say anything will be awkward? I'm not alive to please the arbiters of fine social behaviour.
That kind of bondage does nothing for me.
You can have it.

OK, you don't mind being a potential cuck - fair play to you. I would mind, and I venture most other guys would mind. Not just that I lose my social standing, but for obvious biological ramifications of wanting to have kids with a woman who's slept around (but it's OK, she's promised she's changed). You take your paternity tests and enjoy your large dose of doubt.

 

[blackg]

OK, you don't mind being a potential cuck - fair play to you. I would mind.

Fair enough. But at least try it once. You may find consensual partner/wife sharing could be a blast!!

 

[hairblues]

OK, you don't mind being a potential cuck - fair play to you. I would mind, and I venture most other guys would mind. Not just that I lose my social standing, but for obvious biological ramifications of wanting to have kids with a woman who's slept around (but it's OK, she's promised she's changed). You take your paternity tests and enjoy your large dose of doubt.

You're profile says 45.

why you talking about kids?

 

[redpilled]

Fair enough. But at least try it once. You may find consensual partner/wife sharing could be a blast!!

LOL - that's getting a bit desperate to be honest. I can't help but think that people who open their relationship do so because they're getting (or are already) bored of each other. I've nothing against consenting adults doing whatever they want to do to each other.

 

[redpilled]

You're profile says 45.

why you talking about kids?

It's this thing again about talking about the general population v myself. I was talking about blokes in general - they don't want to be cucks and don't want to find themselves married to someone who's got a reputation that essentially makes you a cuck in the eyes of other people (and you might actually end up being one).

 

[Dench57]

99% of incels are male.

I'd be interested to see the numbers on inceldom actually.

I was having a discussion yesterday with some family after dinner, we were on the subject of babies/starting a family and I said that each sex has different advantages (in general), one big advantage men have is being able to have babies later than women. My aunt asked me "what advantages do women have?" and her tone implied that women have no advantages over men in anything . I only answered with the incel thing before the discussion moved on - how women can find a life partner far easier than a man, men chase and women choose, that there are far more lonely middle-aged men than there are women (i think the fact male suicide rate is massively higher than women, especially over the age of 50, reflects the fact many women have families/still getting laid whenever whereas for men at this age its essentially ogre)

I'd be interested to see if @hairblues thinks women have other advantages over men? My auntie said women were less emotionally dependent (not sure I agree with) than men which was an advantage for women.

My mum and both aunties are feminists, not third-wave but from the second-wave from the 1960s (their generation). Now I think most of MGTOW/redpill/meninism is a crock of sh*t for the most part but there is also a lot of ignorance to problems that men face in #currentyear. I think my mum/aunties generation are from a school of thought where men have life on easymode, that we don't really have problems and if we do they are trivial. This may have been true in their time (life was definitely better for a man in the 50s/60s) but I don't think its as true for my generation. There's really not much discussion on how things have changed for men in the mainstream/public domain. Plenty of it on reddit lul but I mean really out there. Not compared to feminism and the whole SJW/vegan transfluid non-binary attack helicopter pronoun white privilege patriarchy thing we have going on now.

 

[Stanx22]

I'd be interested to see the numbers on inceldom actually.

I was having a discussion yesterday with some family after dinner, we were on the subject of babies/starting a family and I said that both sex have different advantages (in general), one big advantage men have is being able to have babies later than women. My aunt asked me "what advantages do women have?" and her tone implied that women have no advantages over men in anything . I only answered with the incel thing before the discussion moved on - how women can find a life partner far easier than a man, men chase and women choose, that there are far more lonely middle-aged men than there are women (i think the fact male suicide rate is massively higher than women, especially over the age of 50, reflects the fact many women have families/still getting laid whenever whereas for men at this age its essentially ogre)

I'd be interested to see if @hairblues thinks women have other advantages over men? My auntie said she thought women were less emotionally dependent (not sure I agree with) than men which was an advantage for women.

My mum and both aunties are feminists, not third-wave but from the second-wave from the 1960s (their generation). Now I think most of MGTOW/redpill/meninism is a crock of sh*t for the most part but there is also a lot of ignorance to problems that men face in #currentyear. I think my mum/aunties generation are from a school of thought where men have life on easymode, that we don't really have problems and if we do they are trivial. This may have been true in their time but I don't think it is my generations time. There's really not much discussion on how things have changed for men in the mainstream/public domain. Plenty of it on reddit lul but I mean really out there. Not compared to feminism and the whole SJW/vegan transfluid non-binary attack helicopter pronoun white privilege patriarchy thing we have going on now.

Men suicide rate is 4x times higher than women. Your mom and auntie were born in a different generation, where morals and respect for each others existed and people were more respectful. But after the third-wave feminism and the mainstream media, social media, online dating, humans have become shittier and a gap had grown between men and women. We no longer care about each others or respect each others because every one of us thinks he deserves the best, especially women. In the 1960's women had no advantages over men, actually i think men had more advantages, but today it's incomparable. Today women have far more advantages than men, the only way for a man to be treated as equally as a woman is treated is to be good looking or rich or high status. Being average or below average in looks and money, status makes life much more harder for a man, compared to a woman who also lacks in those things. And yeah, i agree with you that MGTOW is a pathetic cope, but redpill is fine IMO, unless it is extreme or leads to misogyny.

 

[Stanx22]

Yesterday I saw an article in a Belgian magazine giving examples of women who found love after 30.

And of course, under the article, dozens of women in their 30's patting each other on the back, or worse, giving each other virtual high five.

"My happily married friends can go f*** themselves! We're not demanding, we're just waiting for the man of our dreams!"

*Dozens of likes*

I looked at the profile of these women and most of them were holding rather prestigious jobs.

So you can easily guess where the problem comes from.

These women have priced themselves out of the market.

They want an attractive, tall, successful, single slightly older man.

But how many of these men are there on the market? How many are single? And if they are single, why would they choose a woman in her 30's when they can have their pick with much younger women?

This video explains the phenomenon pretty well:

The delusion is hard. They're like the spoiled child who thinks he can get everything he wants. The man they demand is noway to be in his 30's and still be single with all those qualities. Actually many of those superior men would want to marry in their late 20's and start a family, have kids, to focus more on their careers. And i don't think a superior man in his early 20's will leave the 20's models and go for a woman in her 30's who had been banged by hundreds of men for like 15 years or something. Even women in middle east now had started to act the same. Feminists are also hard here and have the same rage, as they have in the west. They want nothing, but women to have a highly-paid job and any man she wants. There were nothing better than the old days, when women were dependent on men to provide for their offspring, no matter how attractive or unattractive the man was. I actually feel bad for many kids nowadays who will grow up without a father or with a beta provider, because their father is a chad who fucks a different woman every night and has like another 10 kids or something.

 

[Stanx22]

I already told you by PM I will teach you about mascara... No reason to get jealous hon'

No thanks, i was born fabulous.

 

[hairblues]

I'd be interested to see the numbers on inceldom actually.

I was having a discussion yesterday with some family after dinner, we were on the subject of babies/starting a family and I said that each sex has different advantages (in general), one big advantage men have is being able to have babies later than women. My aunt asked me "what advantages do women have?" and her tone implied that women have no advantages over men in anything . I only answered with the incel thing before the discussion moved on - how women can find a life partner far easier than a man, men chase and women choose, that there are far more lonely middle-aged men than there are women (i think the fact male suicide rate is massively higher than women, especially over the age of 50, reflects the fact many women have families/still getting laid whenever whereas for men at this age its essentially ogre)

I'd be interested to see if @hairblues thinks women have other advantages over men? My auntie said women were less emotionally dependent (not sure I agree with) than men which was an advantage for women.

My mum and both aunties are feminists, not third-wave but from the second-wave from the 1960s (their generation). Now I think most of MGTOW/redpill/meninism is a crock of sh*t for the most part but there is also a lot of ignorance to problems that men face in #currentyear. I think my mum/aunties generation are from a school of thought where men have life on easymode, that we don't really have problems and if we do they are trivial. This may have been true in their time (life was definitely better for a man in the 50s/60s) but I don't think its as true for my generation. There's really not much discussion on how things have changed for men in the mainstream/public domain. Plenty of it on reddit lul but I mean really out there. Not compared to feminism and the whole SJW/vegan transfluid non-binary attack helicopter pronoun white privilege patriarchy thing we have going on now.

I like being a woman to be honest. Even in my 40's I enjoy it.

I think their were legitimate disadvantages pre 90's. If it tilted to far other way is possible this sometimes happens. But There has to be a balance not these throw back ideas some of these guys have. you can't go 'back'. These guys speak in such extreme that they blow some of the legitimate gripes they may have.
Not unlike modern feminists.

 

[Stanx22]

Women stopped being dependent on men the day the birth control pill was introduced.

Without it, no female liberation, no feminism, no hook-up culture. Women would have remained in the kitchen.

Yeah, and because the society is too feminized now. And instead of being grateful and thankful for it, they take advantage of it to get what they want.

 

[hairblues]

It's this thing again about talking about the general population v myself. I was talking about blokes in general - they don't want to be cucks and don't want to find themselves married to someone who's got a reputation that essentially makes you a cuck in the eyes of other people (and you might actually end up being one).

Cucks in my opinion are about the dynamic sexually between man and woman and have little to do with her sexual history of partners and more to do with the woman being dominant sexually or even emotionally.
Some woman are just sexually dominant over the male sex partner.
You think a 20 year old HOT woman with a 30 year old mediocre man even if she slept with 5 men in her life isnt cuckholdinf that man if he is really into her sexually?

Cuckholding is about power.

 

[hairblues]

LOL - that's getting a bit desperate to be honest. I can't help but think that people who open their relationship do so because they're getting (or are already) bored of each other. I've nothing against consenting adults doing whatever they want to do to each other.

No it is a growing trend with a some young people.
Excuse me I mean good looking sexually active young people.
I know a married couple mid 20's they swing. Both are hot. The under 30 crowd in nyc it's a pretty large trend.

Yes yes I know anecdotal personal observation but that's part of conversations here so get over it.

 

[Stanx22]

Power earned through a greater range of sexual experiences, and what better way to know more about the dark side of human nature?

Dark side that you can use against inexperienced naive men who will be like "Oh sure honey, I love you, I'll watch you getting bred by a black guy!"

The more experienced have power over the naive who will trust them quite easily.

You're goddamn right. Being cuck here where i live is a shame. A cuck man will be known as a man with no manliness or morals. If you can't dominant your woman or protect her, then you're a disgrace to all men.

 

[blackg]

99% of incels are male. This is just biology at play here. Saying "it's not 100%" is not really an argument when the reply will be "OK, then you're right - 99% is not 100%".

Have you ever read women complaining that it's the "Staceys" that are getting laid and not them? Nope. Now, how often do you hear complaints from men about the "Chads"? All the time.



First off, they're not platitudes. They're very real risks. I know that on these boards, we tend to be better educated and conscientous of our actions, but wider society is full of absolute morons. It's these morons that society tries to tame through shaming. Not saying it works all the time, but society does use shame to put a lid on certain behaviours.

Jealousy regarding something that's easy? Would you be jealous of a guy who has shagged 100 very good looking prostitutes? I know I wouldn't. I could do the same. I don't want to. If I am jealous, it tends to be regarding things that are difficult to obtain. Are you jealous of a guy wearing a wig? No. Are you jealous of a genuine fullhead? There's your answer.

We are all different. What you may be jealous of may not be the same thing as what your workmate will be jealous of.
And calling the average citizens "morons" really reeks of superiority.
I don't like this, never have.

Do you often name-call people who make you feel your life is is passing you by?
Could this be the case??

And yes we are all envious of things in life we struggle to obtain.
This comment from you is very telling.

Anyway, look, my advice to you and anyone else has always been;
If someone else is living a lifestyle that unnerves you and you don't approve of.... and as long as these people don't harm the innocent.... Then mind your own damn business!

Just worry about your life, family, girlfriend, whatever...
Because being triggered by the lifestyle of others usually means an insecurity is rising to the surface.

Please give it some thought.

 

[hairblues]

Power earned through a greater range of sexual experiences, and what better way to know more about the dark side of human nature?

Dark side that you can use against inexperienced naive men who will be like "Oh sure honey, I love you, I'll watch you getting bred by a black guy!"

The more experienced have power over the naive who will trust them quite easily.

I agree to an extent

But a better looking mate also has more power.

And some woman (or men) will take advantage of that over time.

 

[Stanx22]

I agree to an extent

But a better looking mate also has more power.

And some woman (or men) will take advantage of that over time.

I disagree with that. Good looks are important to find a relationship in the first place, but it's not the main indicator of who would be more dominant. Some people value their pride more than anything else in the world, even sex and relationships.