Ot. Women Hypergamy Statement True Or False?

[blackg]

The delusion is hard. They're like the spoiled child who thinks he can get everything he wants. The man they demand is noway to be in his 30's and still be single with all those qualities. Actually many of those superior men would want to marry in their late 20's and start a family, have kids, to focus more on their careers. And i don't think a superior man in his early 20's will leave the 20's models and go for a woman in her 30's who had been banged by hundreds of men for like 15 years or something. Even women in middle east now had started to act the same. Feminists are also hard here and have the same rage, as they have in the west. They want nothing, but women to have a highly-paid job and any man she wants. There were nothing better than the old days, when women were dependent on men to provide for their offspring, no matter how attractive or unattractive the man was. I actually feel bad for many kids nowadays who will grow up without a father or with a beta provider, because their father is a chad who fucks a different woman every night and has like another 10 kids or something.

Well, I got news for you and everyone else on this forum.
The old days are just that: old days!
They aren't coming back.

Seriously, things these days really aren't that bad. It's in our imaginations where we struggle most.

 

[blackg]

Women stopped being dependent on men the day the birth control pill was introduced.

Without it, no female liberation, no feminism, no hook-up culture. Women would have remained in the kitchen.

Come on Fred. Surely you're smarter and more socially advanced then this.

 

[blackg]

Girls' behavior varies according to how good you look at a particular time.

Gaining 5kg, losing a Norwood, neglecting your grooming, not going to the gym.

These faux-pas will change your girlfriend's behavior towards you, make no mistake.

And that's only looks, let's not even talk about status, bedroom performance, attitude, etc.

Surly the male members of this site have no trouble satisfying a woman in the bedroom (or anywhere else for that matter).

It's not that hard. Nature ensures it isn't.

 

[Dench57]

It's not that hard.

try v****


eyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

 

[blackg]

try v****


eyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

Love ya, Dench!

 

[hairblues]

Come on Fred. Surely you're smarter and more socially advanced then this.

He is not really wrong

I think birth control gave women a lot of sexual independence

But it goes back further I think to the suffertes in early 1900 who were trying to promote condom use.

Also lets not forget status and financial background is the largest source of society hypocrisy because those socialites back in the the day were f*****g like rabbits they just knew how not to get pregnant And they also
had access to safe although illegal abortions.

So I think it's not just the history of male vs female with sexual behavior and ridicule I think it was a way of controlling the lower classes as well.
Think of it in today's society
It was not that long ago I heard a congressman from Louisiana propose sterilizing young black women.
In fact in USA we did sterilize forcibly young women in past.
we also labotomized women (and men not saying it did not happen to men too but doubt for sexual behavior not sure) for deviant behavior
I think if Frances Farmer the 'out of control' actress. I am pretty sure she was labotomized.

So I mean these theories about man and women are great but not a good idea to go backwards.

Are young women going too far? Possibly but I think so are the young men who are sexually active.
There is a desensitized aspect happening with sex for both sexually active genders.
To say it's a slap on back with young men--I think that is more from a mans perspective I am not sure this is a woman's perspective on men who have been with an excessive amount of women.

To me there is an ick factor with both to be honest. When it comes to these super high numbers. It is a signal to me their is trouble connecting and they can disconnect easily.
That's just my perspective.

 

[hairblues]

I was thinking something from these conversation here and I have been reluctant to voice it because I KNOw I may be jumped on for it.

I don't know if I am right so let me preface it with that statement. But I am wondering out of curiosity.

A lot of women are attractive on some level:
Even in art, female artists even often prefer drawing or photographing female subjects over male subjects. Even today women nude models in a figure drawing class can be imperfect in looks body even age yet can still be attractive on some level (not all of course I don't mean fat old or deformed)
But male subjects unless they are perfect in body frame good bones in face people are uninterested in looking at them. (Of course exceptions some aged people are actually interesting to draw for some artists).
But often at these drink and draws even the women will ask 'is subject male or female?'
Straight women will go to a strip club for shits and giggles and enjoy the show.
Straight women buy magazines I do not think it's for clothes they can't afford and often unimpressive I think it's too look at models.
Again it's not in a sexual manner.

Anyway we talk about society having had pressure on women in past to marry.
This to me was unnatural. It may be civilized but I do not think it was the natural order of selection. It was forced by society standards (for good or bad is irrelevant to my train of thought).

Now that pressure is all but obliterated compared to 50 years ago.

Now we have men who can't n get laid or married etc because the woman do not want to (for variance reasons which again are not relevant to my point)

But do you think these men would have had better chances before the past 10,000 years of civilization?
I don't think so.
I think we forced with creation of civilization and or society an unnnatural selection process.
I am NOt saying the Tinder culture is natural either.
But I see posters use word like 'natural' to describe societal pressure or customs in what should be a biological process.

Women carry the egg. Women are the keepers of potential 'life' and will be picker then men biologically.
This is a natuaral process of selection.
If they are not selecting some men to breed with--than this is just the natural order of things.

 

[blackg]

I was thinking something from these conversation here and I have been reluctant to voice it because I KNOw I may be jumped on for it.

I don't know if I am right so let me preface it with that statement. But I am wondering out of curiosity.

A lot of women are attractive on some level:
Even in art, female artists even often prefer drawing or photographing female subjects over male subjects. Even today women nude models in a figure drawing class can be imperfect in looks body even age yet can still be attractive on some level (not all of course I don't mean fat old or deformed)
But male subjects unless they are perfect in body frame good bones in face people are uninterested in looking at them. (Of course exceptions some aged people are actually interesting to draw for some artists).
But often at these drink and draws even the women will ask 'is subject male or female?'
Straight women will go to a strip club for shits and giggles and enjoy the show.
Straight women buy magazines I do not think it's for clothes they can't afford and often unimpressive I think it's too look at models.
Again it's not in a sexual manner.

Anyway we talk about society having had pressure on women in past to marry.
This to me was unnatural. It may be civilized but I do not think it was the natural order of selection. It was forced by society standards (for good or bad is irrelevant to my train of thought).

Now that pressure is all but obliterated compared to 50 years ago.

Now we have men who can't n get laid or married etc because the woman do not want to (for variance reasons which again are not relevant to my point)

But do you think these men would have had better chances before the past 10,000 years of civilization?
I don't think so.
I think we forced with creation of civilization and or society an unnnatural selection process.
I am NOt saying the Tinder culture is natural either.
But I see posters use word like 'natural' to describe societal pressure or customs in what should be a biological process.

Women carry the egg. Women are the keepers of potential 'life' and will be picker then men biologically.
This is a natuaral process of selection.
If they are not selecting men to breed with--than this is just the natural order of things.

Well said, kind of.

 

[Patrick_Bateman]

Well said, kind of.

I tip my fedora to @hairblues aswell. Hairblues, I'm being nice to you. Will you please have sex with me now, m'lady?

 

[hairblues]

I disagree with that. Good looks are important to find a relationship in the first place, but it's not the main indicator of who would be more dominant. Some people value their pride more than anything else in the world, even sex and relationships.

You would be shocked what extremes a man goes through to rationalize to himself staying with a hot piece of ***.
Vice versa as well.

 

[hairblues]

Well said, kind of.

Kind of?? Lol

 

[Dench57]

Kind of?? Lol

 

[CaptainForehead]

I like being a woman to be honest. Even in my 40's I enjoy it.

I think their were legitimate disadvantages pre 90's. If it tilted to far other way is possible this sometimes happens.

Another thing which is worrying is that society in the past decade has been trying to build up women by tearing down men. Clearly this is bad for men. This is also bad for women because they will not like the resulting feminised men.

Men over 30 are immune to this, but I worry about the message being sent to young boys and the environment they are growing up in.

Example:

The bit where he talks about the baby's gender. It is so incredibly offensive, and yet there is applause and cheering.

 

[blackg]

I tip my fedora to @hairblues aswell. Hairblues, I'm being nice to you. Will you please have sex with me now, m'lady?
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No offence to @hairblues but I really don't need to have sex with her.

I like her, though. She's from Nu Yawk, baby!!

 

[blackg]

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Great illustration!! You're the best!

 

[hairblues]

I disagree with that. Good looks are important to find a relationship in the first place, but it's not the main indicator of who would be more dominant. Some people value their pride more than anything else in the world, even sex and relationships.

I just want to add

Our brains release chemicals during sex
These chemicals can create bonding instincts or drive. In some more than others even to in some extremes obsessive men and women.

So it is easy to say what you would or would not feel for someone without these 'drugs' effecting your opinion.
I do think the ease of detachment that comes with high numbers and ease of sex weakens the power of these chemical changes in the brain.
It's like drug addicts rationalize sh*t to themselves to keep their drug.
Love and pleasure is kind of a drug.

 

[blackg]

You would be shocked what extremes a man goes through to rationalize to himself staying with a hot piece of ***.
Vice versa as well.

I agree with this too.

 

[Patrick_Bateman]

Another thing which is worrying is that society in the past decade has been trying to build up women by tearing down men. Clearly this is bad for men. This is also bad for women because they will not like the resulting feminised men.

Men over 30 are immune to this, but I worry about the message being sent to young boys and the environment they are growing up in.

Example:

The bit where he talks about the baby's gender. It is so incredibly offensive, and yet there is applause and cheering.

 

[hairblues]

Another thing which is worrying is that society in the past decade has been trying to build up women by tearing down men. Clearly this is bad for men. This is also bad for women because they will not like the resulting feminised men.

Men over 30 are immune to this, but I worry about the message being sent to young boys and the environment they are growing up in.

Example:

The bit where he talks about the baby's gender. It is so incredibly offensive, and yet there is applause and cheering.

I agree with you but the knee jerk response however sadly seems to be the angry and frustrated young men trying to flex their 'dominance' BUT they are doing it all wrong.
They are listening to the wrong men on how to deal with it.
Just my opinion.

 

[blackg]

I agree with you but the knee jerk response however sadly seems to be the angry and frustrated young men trying to flex their 'dominance' BUT they are doing it all wrong.
They are listening to the wrong men on how to deal with it.
Just my opinion.

Yeah, I agree. A strong secure man never has to flex.