Over masturbation most possibly can accelerate male pattern baldness in genetically susceptibles

[californiaoceans911]

There is no credible source when it comes to experiments related to masturbation because p**rn is so easily accessible these days. Just look at this post.
http://forums.anandtech.com/archive/index.php/t-2295918.html

It will take a long time, if not forever to find how masturbation/over-masturbation affects our body accurately. Just don't make a bold claim about hair loss for now and keep saving pics. That will be the best way to prove/disprove this hypothesis.

You're trying to reason with them. Notcoolanymore, Fred, many others, and myself included have tried that as well. We tried making peace and asking them to take pictures and document it. The only one that tried was Mr.Monkey, and his results were inconclusive. The one with the biggest mouth peddling the NoF(CR)AP is Maher, and to-date nobody has even seen a single picture of that troll.

They don't post pictures because they're holding onto false hope that this works. They can't face their situation and fact. Every few months a thread like this opens up, we say "post pics" and they never do. Rather, the quote (read MISquote) articles and rant utter bullsh*t.

 

[madboy46]

Im not going to masturbate for 4 months..lets see what happens..im a diffuse thinner btw..masturbated today..now only on 14 th feb 2015..i will post the update..i take no propecia or any topical stuff..

 

[maher]

You're trying to reason with them. Notcoolanymore, Fred, many others, and myself included have tried that as well. We tried making peace and asking them to take pictures and document it. The only one that tried was Mr.Monkey, and his results were inconclusive. The one with the biggest mouth peddling the NoF(CR)AP is Maher, and to-date nobody has even seen a single picture of that troll.

They don't post pictures because they're holding onto false hope that this works. They can't face their situation and fact. Every few months a thread like this opens up, we say "post pics" and they never do. Rather, the quote (read MISquote) articles and rant utter bullsh*t.

what picture? of my hairloss completelly stopped about 1.5 years ago... And yes, I have male pattern baldness, diagnosed by my derm 8 years ago.

On the other hand, you are NW1- with min. of hairloss, probably induced by your tyroide problem, trolling in nofap threads.

You're the one not intelligent enought to think outside the box. You can take your causation and correlation and sit on it. you're like a zombie parrot: causation and correlation, causation and correlation...

It makes sense to us that: flatlining on NoFap, with low sex drive, does lower male hormons levels... and that sexual behavior can affect hormonal levels and not only the other way around ....

And yes, you are right. That study only proves that there could be a link... But taking into consideration bolded text above, it makes perfect sense to me. IN THEORY, OF COURSE.

(Now, I had to put all this in writing, wasting my time, just so you can understand something that is more than obvious)...

 

[californiaoceans911]

what picture? of my hairloss completelly stopped about 1.5 years ago... And yes, I have male pattern baldness, diagnosed by my derm 8 years ago.

On the other hand, you are NW1- with min. of hairloss, probably induced by your tyroide problem, trolling in nofap threads.

You're the one not intelligent enought to think outside the box. You can take your causation and correlation and sit on it. you're like a zombie parrot: causation and correlation, causation and correlation...

It makes sense to us that: flatlining on NoFap, with low sex drive, does lower male hormons levels... and that sexual behavior can affect hormonal levels and not only the other way around ....

And yes, you are right. That study only proves that there could be a link... But taking into consideration bolded text above, it makes perfect sense to me. IN THEORY, OF COURSE.

(Now, I had to put all this in writing, wasting my time, just so you can understand something that is more than obvious)...

Exactly!! WHAT PICTURE? Nobody has ever seen this magical "regrowth" and NoFAP success that you have supposedly had. You're supposedly the one success story and yet you refuse to show your results. Hmmmm, big cup of bullsh*t anyone?

What you're doing isn't thinking outside the box numb-nuts, you're stuffing your head into a completely different box, the delusional box.

Yes thanks I'll take my causation and correlation and sit on it. I'll stick to logic and science, you keep huffing the crazy sauce.

Of course it makes sense to you that flatlining, ...blah blah blah....because you're bat sh*t crazy bro lol. I mean, do you even READ the sh*t you write? You guys call finasteride poison but you basically want to do the same thing to your body that finasteride does....lower your male hormone levels. Your logic is a little whacked out.

Yes the study proves that there is an ASSOCIATION, not a link...there's a difference. Oh you mean taking the bolded text that you pulled out of your own *** that has no scientific backing to it? Yea sure, applying batSh*t logic to the supposed association WOULD lead to some pretty nifty conclusions. IN BATSH*T CRAZY LOGIC THEORY, OF COURSE.

Like I said before, I'll gladly slam down every bullsh*t NoFAP post that you write and make you look stupid because we are sick of you misleading other people. Anyone with a brain that runs on logic laughs at your stupid posts, especially when I point out the major flaws in your reasoning.

 

[frenchy]

Like I said before, I'll gladly slam down every bullsh*t NoFAP post that you write and make you look stupid because we are sick of you misleading other people. Anyone with a brain that runs on logic laughs at your stupid posts, especially when I point out the major flaws in your reasoning.

thank you for coming here enlighten us with your wisdom and your wide knowledge

 

[mungyana]

what picture? of my hairloss completelly stopped about 1.5 years ago... And yes, I have male pattern baldness, diagnosed by my derm 8 years ago.

On the other hand, you are NW1- with min. of hairloss, probably induced by your tyroide problem, trolling in nofap threads.

You're the one not intelligent enought to think outside the box. You can take your causation and correlation and sit on it. you're like a zombie parrot: causation and correlation, causation and correlation...

It makes sense to us that: flatlining on NoFap, with low sex drive, does lower male hormons levels... and that sexual behavior can affect hormonal levels and not only the other way around ....

And yes, you are right. That study only proves that there could be a link... But taking into consideration bolded text above, it makes perfect sense to me. IN THEORY, OF COURSE.

(Now, I had to put all this in writing, wasting my time, just so you can understand something that is more than obvious)...

I hear in every occasion and debates Merck's salesman love to say this mantra: "causation does not imply correlation."

Surely Merck has trained them so well.

 

[maher]

Exactly!! WHAT PICTURE? Nobody has ever seen this magical "regrowth" and NoFAP success that you have supposedly had. You're supposedly the one success story and yet you refuse to show your results. Hmmmm, big cup of bullsh*t anyone?

What you're doing isn't thinking outside the box numb-nuts, you're stuffing your head into a completely different box, the delusional box.

Yes thanks I'll take my causation and correlation and sit on it. I'll stick to logic and science, you keep huffing the crazy sauce.

Of course it makes sense to you that flatlining, ...blah blah blah....because you're bat sh*t crazy bro lol. I mean, do you even READ the sh*t you write? You guys call finasteride poison but you basically want to do the same thing to your body that finasteride does....lower your male hormone levels. Your logic is a little whacked out.

Yes the study proves that there is an ASSOCIATION, not a link...there's a difference. Oh you mean taking the bolded text that you pulled out of your own *** that has no scientific backing to it? Yea sure, applying batSh*t logic to the supposed association WOULD lead to some pretty nifty conclusions. IN BATSH*T CRAZY LOGIC THEORY, OF COURSE.

Like I said before, I'll gladly slam down every bullsh*t NoFAP post that you write and make you look stupid because we are sick of you misleading other people. Anyone with a brain that runs on logic laughs at your stupid posts, especially when I point out the major flaws in your reasoning.

Thank you. You've actually confirmed everything I said above, only spiced it with insults as trademark of your superior intelligence.

I stopped being delusional about my hair loss years ago. No one said anything about some serious terminal hair regrow.

I've never said finasteride is a poison, I restrain myself to discuss about finasteride in respect of finasteride-users. And NO. I'm not trying to "lower" my hormonal levels, only trying to normalize my androgens to "pre-overmasturbation" period.

Finally, I'm not missleading anyone. Everyone here is adult, with limitless informations avaliable, every individual can weigh pros and cons and decide whats the best for him. I only regret i haven't bumped into one of this threads years ago. This is a discussion forum and I'm not gonna let some whiny little fascist to shut me down.

 

[californiaoceans911]

It all comes down to that really. maher won't show pictures which proves he is nothing more than a troll, a pathetic one at that.

Yes this is exactly it. I have no problem with Mr.TheHairyMonkey, but Maher (Mr. I bang 10s), DPS, and a few of the others are just flat out trolls. The problem isn't people trying out NoFAP, it's the bold, ridiculous claims they make and the out-of-context proof they try to provide. For example, citing articles that actually don't support what they say, and then twisting the message to prove their point.

The problem is by doing this, the add false-credibility to their statements and mislead people who don't know any better. THIS, and ONLY THIS, is what I (and many others) are fighting to stop.

 

[Cue Bald]

I'm not quite sure why you'd want to spend your life doing NoFap to lower DHT, when you could just take finasteride instead? surely it is easier just to take a pill in the morning and forget about it?

 

[frenchy]

I'm not quite sure why you'd want to spend your life doing NoFap to lower DHT, when you could just take finasteride instead? surely it is easier just to take a pill in the morning and forget about it?

because of sides some of us gets with it

 

[Cue Bald]

but why be bothered by sexual sides if you aren't going to be using your c*** anyway ? or do you plan to have normal sex ? (how is sex different from fap?)

 

[californiaoceans911]

but why be bothered by sexual sides if you aren't going to be using your c*** anyway ? or do you plan to have normal sex ? (how is sex different from fap?)

Damnit I wish you hadn't said that, now this is going to bring on a whole different topic to feed this thread. It has been shown, although not thoroughly, that masturbation can have a different chemical cascade than having sex.

 

[FHassan]

This thread is called 'Over Masturbation'. From what I know, just like wine, masturbation is healthy in moderation.. So why cut it out completely? Why not just keep it to max 1 every 2 days or something? Everybody masturbates, over-masturbation is the issue from what I can tell skimming through this, so just don't overdo it, and see the effects - much easier, and you'd be in the 'normal' range of rubbing it off. Not doing it or overdoing it is outside that range frankly.

 

[californiaoceans911]

This thread is called 'Over Masturbation'. From what I know, just like wine, masturbation is healthy in moderation.. So why cut it out completely? Why not just keep it to max 1 every 2 days or something? Everybody masturbates, over-masturbation is the issue from what I can tell skimming through this, so just don't overdo it, and see the effects - much easier, and you'd be in the 'normal' range of rubbing it off. Not doing it or overdoing it is outside that range frankly.

The thread title is stupid, just like all the other NoFAP threads:

"Over-masturbation most possibly can accelerate male pattern baldness in genetically susceptibles" <-- I assume the guy who started this thread doesn't speak English fluently

"Masturbation = hair loss"

"I think the key to success for some of us is NOFAP"

[h=1]The problem with these threads is that the titles, and the content, suggest that there is truth/evidence to support the notion that masturbation causes hair loss. This is just not true, flat out. There is NO scientific evidence that shows that masturbation causes hair loss.[/h]

 

[FHassan]

The thread title is stupid, just like all the other NoFAP threads:

"Over-masturbation most possibly can accelerate male pattern baldness in genetically susceptibles" <-- I assume the guy who started this thread doesn't speak English fluently

"Masturbation = hair loss"

"I think the key to success for some of us is NOFAP"

The problem with these threads is that the titles, and the content, suggest that there is truth/evidence to support the notion that masturbation causes hair loss. This is just not true, flat out. There is NO scientific evidence that shows that masturbation causes hair loss.

While agreeing with you, there isn't much scientific evidence to support Nizoral will do **** for your hair (maybe your bald mice's though) but its still part of 'The Big 3'

Alot of this is about hope for some people, hope overcomes reason alot of the time, because there is a chance it may in fact be true, wasn't finasteride or minoxidil originally used for something else and they noticed hair growth/regrowth? After that it became evident, guess they're just hoping that something like NoFap could be another discovery waiting to happen - Good luck to them

 

[californiaoceans911]

While agreeing with you, there isn't much scientific evidence to support Nizoral will do **** for your hair (maybe your bald mice's though) but its still part of 'The Big 3'

Alot of this is about hope for some people, hope overcomes reason alot of the time, because there is a chance it may in fact be true, wasn't finasteride or minoxidil originally used for something else and they noticed hair growth/regrowth? After that it became evident, guess they're just hoping that something like NoFap could be another discovery waiting to happen - Good luck to them

You're misinformed. There is definitely scientific evidence supporting that ketoconazole shampoo will regrow hair. Provide your email and I'll send you the papers.

Your analogy doesn't make sense, but ok. I mean, I understand people not wanting to go on Finasteride, I can get that. But ketoconazole shampoo + minoxidil will do way more for your hair than NoFAP ever will.

 

[FHassan]

I wasn't comparing nofap to minoxidil, i was mentioning that minoxs effect was stumbled upon from what I've read, what people are hopeful for is nofap, snake oils, biotin, whatever - to be another freak discovery

Honestly I've seen enough of Nizoral thinning my hair to know it doesn't work at least for me, in fact it's the reason I'm here, didn't have a issue until i went on it when i just wanted to treat my scalp, and there's only two approved hair loss treatments, and Nizoral is not one of them


Anyways to the no fappers, good luck, don't beat yourselves up when you beat yourselves off

 

[californiaoceans911]

I wasn't comparing nofap to minoxidil, i was mentioning that minoxs effect was stumbled upon from what I've read, what people are hopeful for is nofap, snake oils, biotin, whatever - to be another freak discovery

Honestly I've seen enough of Nizoral thinning my hair to know it doesn't work at least for me, in fact it's the reason I'm here, didn't have a issue until i went on it when i just wanted to treat my scalp, and there's only two approved hair loss treatments, and Nizoral is not one of them


Anyways to the no fappers, good luck, don't beat yourselves up when you beat yourselves off

I didn't say you were comparing the two, I was simply stating that people would be better off using minoxidil and Keto than NoFAP. It was stated above that people are interested in NoFAP because Finasteride has side effects.

Nizoral is harsh from what I hear. I used "Lipogaine Big 3 Shampoo" which was mild and minty fresh. Also, if you're using this stuff every day, it can fry your hair. I know a lot of people use it every day but I used it twice a week, as it was directed to do so.


Minoxidil and Finasteride were originally researched for other reasons. The former being a vasodilator and the latter for benign prostate hyperplasia correct. However, I don't see how the NoFAP thing relates. People on here are trying it for hair loss, so I don't see how that would be considered a freak discovery. Anyway doesn't matter.

 

[Notcoolanymore]

CO is holding the fort pretty damn well so no need to say much. LOL at your counter.

As far as no fap goes, debating this nonsense it getting old. No need to post bogus claims and studies, or make up silly terms. The proof is in the pics. Some of you guys have been supposedly doing this nofap stuff for months. If it works then somebody should have some conclusive pics by now. It is time to stop talking and writing about how it works, show the proof and that will quiet the critics.

 

[californiaoceans911]

CO is holding the fort pretty damn well so no need to say much. LOL at your counter.

As far as no fap goes, debating this nonsense it getting old. No need to post bogus claims and studies, or make up silly terms. The proof is in the pics. Some of you guys have been supposedly doing this nofap stuff for months. If it works then somebody should have some conclusive pics by now. It is time to stop talking and writing about how it works, show the proof and that will quiet the critics.

Thanks Just sick of guys like Maher. So I'm going to unload (pun intended) on the NoFAP brigade. I'm sick of the horsesh*t. Yes people have been doing this for months, some for years.....yet no pics. Maher just keeps claiming he's maintaining. He probably looks like bigfoot's d*ck (big, bald on top, hairy on the sides) which is why he doesn't post pics.