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overproduction of dht as opposed to sensitivity?
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I'd be interested in Bryans comments on this (sorry Bryan I know youve probably already typed it 5,000 times), but I have always had a secret theory that its an increase in DHT production that really causes hair loss. Whether that is scientifically sound or not is irrelevant to me (ha ha), purely because I was brainstorming.
I remember asking Bryan nearly 7 years ago if maybe there is a "DHT Storm" during certain years. A period of time when DHT levels increase, not necessarily sensitivity in the follicle increasing. My theory was that one might be able to "weather the storm" with treatments that protect sensitive follicles.
Then, when things settle down a few years later and DHT activity has reduced in your system, maybe you wouldn't even need antiandrogens to maintain your hair ... After all, don't guys sometimes lose hair for a few years, and then pretty much plateau for the remainder of their life? Very common right? ... just a brainstorm. A brainstorm primarily motivated by my own personal situation. I was losing hair in buckets at age 25, freaked out, built a website about the topic, and went on Propecia for 3 years. I know my physiology changed in that time.
I stopped propecia and my hair loss never progressed. I've been using Topical spironolactone and Revivogen but who knows if that's the reason why I still have nearly all of my hair.
I wonder if my "DHT Storm" was that 3 year period, and now Ill just keep my hair? I've only been applying revivogen and spironolactone in the front 3 inches of hairline for the last 5 years. Nowhere else on my head. My hair hasn't gotten any thinner on the top or back in the last 8 years. Lots of possible variables but ... one wonders.
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I remember asking Bryan nearly 7 years ago if maybe there is a "DHT Storm" during certain years. A period of time when DHT levels increase, not necessarily sensitivity in the follicle increasing. My theory was that one might be able to "weather the storm" with treatments that protect sensitive follicles.
Then, when things settle down a few years later and DHT activity has reduced in your system, maybe you wouldn't even need antiandrogens to maintain your hair ... After all, don't guys sometimes lose hair for a few years, and then pretty much plateau for the remainder of their life? Very common right? ... just a brainstorm. A brainstorm primarily motivated by my own personal situation. I was losing hair in buckets at age 25, freaked out, built a website about the topic, and went on Propecia for 3 years. I know my physiology changed in that time.
I stopped propecia and my hair loss never progressed. I've been using Topical spironolactone and Revivogen but who knows if that's the reason why I still have nearly all of my hair.
I wonder if my "DHT Storm" was that 3 year period, and now Ill just keep my hair? I've only been applying revivogen and spironolactone in the front 3 inches of hairline for the last 5 years. Nowhere else on my head. My hair hasn't gotten any thinner on the top or back in the last 8 years. Lots of possible variables but ... one wonders.
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I wonder about that too. I take finasteride each day, and after 6 years and no loss at all, I wonder if I even need finasteride any more. But I prefer to stay on it. Better safe than sorry. Loss is so slow, and once it is lost, you don't regrow much.
Whether it is DHT or the androgen receptor, the treatment is the same: finasteride and or spironolactone.
If you want to test your DHT storm theory, you would need to test serum DHT levels of balding men over several years. If you had enough DHT in your blood to cause balding, I would think you would have a lot of acne too, and agression. Unless it is just the hair follicles that are not resistant to the DHT. Oops. There is the sensitive follicle again.
As for my brother's "DHT storm" He lost hair the same time I did. I got on finasteride. He did not. He is still losing hair to this day. Maybe his storm is longer than other men's, or maybe once your follicles are attacked, they stay hurt susceptible.
As for people who just lose the teenage hair line, I think those follicles are susceptible and the others are not as sensititive. And I think they do keep thinning over the years, but just don't notice it because it is so gradual. And then they marvel at how young and thick those high schooler's hair is.
Whether it is DHT or the androgen receptor, the treatment is the same: finasteride and or spironolactone.
If you want to test your DHT storm theory, you would need to test serum DHT levels of balding men over several years. If you had enough DHT in your blood to cause balding, I would think you would have a lot of acne too, and agression. Unless it is just the hair follicles that are not resistant to the DHT. Oops. There is the sensitive follicle again.
As for my brother's "DHT storm" He lost hair the same time I did. I got on finasteride. He did not. He is still losing hair to this day. Maybe his storm is longer than other men's, or maybe once your follicles are attacked, they stay hurt susceptible.
As for people who just lose the teenage hair line, I think those follicles are susceptible and the others are not as sensititive. And I think they do keep thinning over the years, but just don't notice it because it is so gradual. And then they marvel at how young and thick those high schooler's hair is.