Propecia killed my manliness. New solutions!

[wemustchange]

After a year on Propecia, I am battling hormones in turmoil. Elevated E2, Low Free T. Messed up T3/T4. Same story. Low libido, fatigue. A loss of manliness. Propecia is a hell of a drug. I am 22 and have been "dealing" with hair loss for 5 years. I am a Norwood 2 or "2.5ish" but with further recession around the corner. Probably destined for NW6+. I was shedding while on Propecia, and still shedding now that I've been off. Word of advice. That one time you try to have sex and have a shitty erection while on Propecia.... RUN. Get off the drug and RUN AWAY, never look back. I've had to familiarize myself with TRT and every aspect of hormones as a result of using finasteride and my future is not clear at this point.

In any case, my main plea. I am never touching Propecia again. I can deal with baldness, but I have seen the things it can do to "some people", and want nothing to do with it. I have been using minoxidil 5% foam for a year and Nizoral 2%. These are staples and will continue to be part of my regime. I need to control DHT now. minoxidil has stabilized and grown peach fuzz, so my hair loss battle isn't completely lost. Am I trying to regrow my temples? Nope. I want to maintain and slowdown my future hairloss as best I can without a serum altering DHT blocker. I am trying to stablize so I can set myself up for an FUE transplant in a year or two. Until then, I will most likely be shaving my head to allow myself to save $$ on applying topicals through hair, but mainly to avoid obsessing over a "tiny" 1.5 inch recession that has destroyed my confidence. So.. what are my answers? spironolactone? If so, 2% or 5% cream? Revivogen in conjunction with spironolactone? I've heard about this RU thing but am concerned with long term availability. Basically, I am looking for the MOST EFFECTIVE solution to stabilize my hair loss on the entirety of my head without propecia, avodart etc. Thanks!

 

[itsucks]

Sorry for what finasteride has done. It should go back to normal with time hopefully. How long have you been off the drug? And what dose where you on?
Lots of guys talk about RU, personally not very familiar with it, but people seem to be getting good restults, so yeah..

After a year on Propecia, I am battling hormones in turmoil. Elevated E2, Low Free T. Messed up T3/T4. Same story. Low libido, fatigue. A loss of manliness. Propecia is a hell of a drug. I am 22 and have been "dealing" with hair loss for 5 years. I am a Norwood 2 or "2.5ish" but with further recession around the corner. Probably destined for NW6+. I was shedding while on Propecia, and still shedding now that I've been off. Word of advice. That one time you try to have sex and have a shitty erection while on Propecia.... RUN. Get off the drug and RUN AWAY, never look back. I've had to familiarize myself with TRT and every aspect of hormones as a result of using finasteride and my future is not clear at this point.

In any case, my main plea. I am never touching Propecia again. I can deal with baldness, but I have seen the things it can do to "some people", and want nothing to do with it. I have been using minoxidil 5% foam for a year and Nizoral 2%. These are staples and will continue to be part of my regime. I need to control DHT now. minoxidil has stabilized and grown peach fuzz, so my hair loss battle isn't completely lost. Am I trying to regrow my temples? Nope. I want to maintain and slowdown my future hairloss as best I can without a serum altering DHT blocker. I am trying to stablize so I can set myself up for an FUE transplant in a year or two. Until then, I will most likely be shaving my head to allow myself to save $$ on applying topicals through hair, but mainly to avoid obsessing over a "tiny" 1.5 inch recession that has destroyed my confidence. So.. what are my answers? spironolactone? If so, 2% or 5% cream? Revivogen in conjunction with spironolactone? I've heard about this RU thing but am concerned with long term availability. Basically, I am looking for the MOST EFFECTIVE solution to stabilize my hair loss on the entirety of my head without propecia, avodart etc. Thanks!

 

[PepperJack]

After a year on Propecia, I am battling hormones in turmoil. Elevated E2, Low Free T. Messed up T3/T4. Same story. Low libido, fatigue. A loss of manliness. Propecia is a hell of a drug. I am 22 and have been "dealing" with hair loss for 5 years. I am a Norwood 2 or "2.5ish" but with further recession around the corner. Probably destined for NW6+. I was shedding while on Propecia, and still shedding now that I've been off. Word of advice. That one time you try to have sex and have a shitty erection while on Propecia.... RUN. Get off the drug and RUN AWAY, never look back. I've had to familiarize myself with TRT and every aspect of hormones as a result of using finasteride and my future is not clear at this point.

In any case, my main plea. I am never touching Propecia again. I can deal with baldness, but I have seen the things it can do to "some people", and want nothing to do with it. I have been using minoxidil 5% foam for a year and Nizoral 2%. These are staples and will continue to be part of my regime. I need to control DHT now. minoxidil has stabilized and grown peach fuzz, so my hair loss battle isn't completely lost. Am I trying to regrow my temples? Nope. I want to maintain and slowdown my future hairloss as best I can without a serum altering DHT blocker. I am trying to stablize so I can set myself up for an FUE transplant in a year or two. Until then, I will most likely be shaving my head to allow myself to save $$ on applying topicals through hair, but mainly to avoid obsessing over a "tiny" 1.5 inch recession that has destroyed my confidence. So.. what are my answers? spironolactone? If so, 2% or 5% cream? Revivogen in conjunction with spironolactone? I've heard about this RU thing but am concerned with long term availability. Basically, I am looking for the MOST EFFECTIVE solution to stabilize my hair loss on the entirety of my head without propecia, avodart etc. Thanks!

Stabization of Hair Loss:
http://www.folligen.com/

also

Stablization of Male Hormones:
http://www.totalityofbeing.com/Frameles ... ctions.htm - See "The Real Reason Men Lose Their Hair" in the men's health section.

 

[wemustchange]

Is Folligen even a legit product for blocking DHT?

 

[andrei_eremenko]

looks that we are fighting with dht...but what about the enemy estrogen? it look that the key to success is to inhibit dht...raising a lot testo...and inhibit also estrogen...is there anything that can inhibit estro? any medication?

 

[wemustchange]

AIs such as Arimidex inhibit Estrogen. Estrogen without using finasteride in a normal, healthy male should be fine. I am looking to find the most effective topical androgen blocker that will match/come close to finasteride on the scalp. RU looks OK.. but where are the results? 2 people posting pictures, 1 of which(irishpride) seems to lose and regrow hair at the speed of sound.

 

[TheGrayMan2001]

Hope you get better, man. From what I can tell people who have the most severe problems have their best luck correcting them by stressing your body with a lot of exercise and weightlifting to get your hormone production going again.

 

[wemustchange]

Thanks.

So... what is the most effective anti androgen in topical form? I have seen RU listed as the "best". Followed by spironolactone. I am not looking for regrowth. I am looking for stabilization.

 

[PepperJack]

Is Folligen even a legit product for blocking DHT?

Yep. I gave you the website--there is a lot of information there about how it works.

 

[guitar66]

stories like this are why i will never take the stuff.... just not worth it. People argue that its only 2% of users. Doesn't matter if its 1/10 of 1%, i won't mess with my manhood, man.

Simarly, I'd like to try RU. It seems effective, I'm just slightly concerned about long term use/issues/absorption etc. Theres some info out there but not alot. Don't want to talk about RU too much anyway, or the modz might delete me :dunno:

wish you the best wemust... not sure what your plan is but take caution if you wind up taking meds to rectify the situation. To many meds and you wind up going down a slippery slope of trying to balance and compensate for hormonal levels.