Propecia & Penis Shrinkage

vogs

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Just read a couple of disturbing articles that stated that long term use of finasteride was directly related to serious sexual disfunction problems including Penis shrinkage.

These claims seem to be a bit far off.. but have any of you read conclusive studies about this?
 

The Gardener

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Those poor little buggers. Their dicks are small enough to begin with, and now this.
 

Zen2Bald

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Bismarck said:
Fibrosis of Penis tissue was observed in mice treated weith Finasteride.

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Yet everyone thinks I am crazy for being hesistant to try Finasteride...
 

juststarting

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No problem here, I got plenty to spare :) lol
 

Baldie

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Penis shrinking!!!

Thats great news....(read into that whatever you feel like)

:lol: :lol: :lol:
 

Zen2Bald

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:roll:
 

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vogs said:
Just read a couple of disturbing articles that stated that long term use of finasteride was directly related to serious sexual disfunction problems including Penis shrinkage.

These claims seem to be a bit far off.. but have any of you read conclusive studies about this?

Got any links to where you read this. It could become the new 'masterbation causes hairloss' kind of rumour.

And even if it does, i have not noticed any shrinkage and i have been on the stuff for over 2 years now.
 

hairschmair

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Mine's about 5 inches shorter (started at 6). I don't mind though as long as I get some hair back.

Jay
 

thin=depressed

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Zen2Bald said:
Bismarck said:
Fibrosis of Penis tissue was observed in mice treated weith Finasteride.

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Yet everyone thinks I am crazy for being hesistant to try Finasteride...
Damn, so NOW this sh*t is talked about after I been on the stuff for a year! I'm not welled endowed to begin with and I have been noticing size when placid. :roll: :-x :eek: :oops: :wink: :cry: :( :wink:
 

thin=depressed

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Thats it! I'm stopping this sh*t. Its only helped maintain anyway. I'll go with hgh topical apps and use some orally and apply a little dutasteride topically as well.
 

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Thinning fast said:
I don't even use my penis anymore, I just wear a strap on. Damn that finasteride!
I'll take two! :)
 

vogs

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It has something to do with an alpha 5 component.

Does any one have any more info on the subject?
 

vogs

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DHT is the hormone that drives the penile spongy tissue (sinusoids) to grow, to repair and to erect, where penile repairing and growing requires a good penile blood circulation and human Growth Hormone (hGH).
The main penile growth season is the puberty when DHT and hGH reach the peak of the male life.
So, I have used this principle in conjunction with the penile ballooning practice and the spontaneous hemodilation of the the spongy tissue to help men re-grow the penis as stated in this link -
Mechanism of the Penile Ballooning for a better sexual orgasm - on the the 2-stage penile erection theory for Penile Enlargement.
http://www.actionlove.com/cases/case10565.htm
or Principles and mechanisms of the Natural Penile Enlargement - Ballooning Method for more erection and sexual orgasm
==> http://www.actionlove.com/cases/case9499.htm (
http://www.actionlove.com/extra/enlargex.htm )

the results inthat article prove that the DHT/5-alpha reductase inhibitor (finasteride) will eventually thin the tunica albuginea and depress sinusoids if you take it for a long time, although the structure of the sinusoids can be temporarily retained.
This can explain why the hair-regrowth drug causes penile shrinkage in a long-term use.

The most important issue in that study is the role of DHT and hGH in growing the elastic spongy tissue during puberty.
What I am interested is that the castrated rate's penis is filled with the collagenous fibers like the regular muscle, instead of erectile spongy tissue. This can also serves as a warning for the men who use penile exercises ( stretching/jelqing/milking) to tear down the spongy tissue into scar that will be eventually degenerated into collagenous fibers. This also implies that teenager boys with a deficiency of testosterone and 5-alpha reductase (thus, deficiency of DHT) will have an underdeveloped penis! How about girls? Women will have an invisible glans clitoris and no-existing G-spot (underdeveloped urethral spongy tissues or sinusoids!), of course, for no vaginal sexual orgasm. Any medication / street drugs or hormone-based birth control may cause the same problems (shrinking the penis and glans clitoris/G-spot) as the hair-regrowth drugs does for men and women. Fortunately, the problems can be reversed by our ViaPal-hGH products provided that boys and girls won't take drugs (and/or hormone-based birth control for girls) during their puberty. However, over-masturbation, chronic use of a vibrator, or the abuse of street/medication/steroid drugs and/or hormone-based birth control prior to or during puberty can destroy the sinusoidal structure and nerves in the penis, clitoris and G-spot (urethral spongy tissues), and degenerate the elastic spongy tissues into the collagenous tissues, resulting in a permanent death of the penis, clitoris and G-spot. Surgery can destroy the sinusoidal structure of the penile and vaginal spongy tissues. The destruction of the sinusoidal structure by any ways will result in permanent penile shrinkage and vaginal enlargement. If the sinusoidal structure is retained, a shrunk penis/clitoris/G-spot or an enlarged vagina can be reversed and rejuvenated by taking Viapal-hGH formulas. There are a lot of examples of the penile, clitoral, G-spot and vaginal rejuvenation in the following links - http://www.actionlove.com/extra/vibrator.htm , http://www.actionlove.com/extra/vsize.htm http://www.actionlove.com/extra/damage.htm , http://www.actionlove.com/extra/penilex.htm , http://www.actionlove.com/extra/penilepump.htm . http://www.actionlove.com/extra/vaginismus.htm
By the way, you need hGH, DHEA, and Free Testosterone to keep hair growing, and a good blood circulation in your hair skin to supply hGH, DHEA and Free testosterone to your hair rooting cells and to prevent DHT from being trapped in the hair rooting cells where the "baby hair sprouts" are burned by DHT before growing.
When your hair grow faster than you lose, you will have more hair; otherwise, you will lose your hair.
This is why during your puberty when, your hGH, DHEA, testosterone and DHT reach their peaks, but your hair grows the fastest in your life! Please read http://www.actionlove.com/extra/hailoss.htm for more information.
That article show the hair regrowth drug insignificantly decreases the free testosterone level, but drops the DHT level more than twice to prevent the burning of the baby hair sprouts.
 

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Hair Loss, Over-Masturbation, Over-ejaculation and sexual orgasm
Note: There are couple more factors, in addition to excessive DHT, causing hair loss:
1. genes - with wrong parents,
2. deficiency of hGH, DHEA and Free Testosterone - loss of the hair growth factors
3. Poor blood circulation in the top of your head due to excessive stress (adrenalin) that constrict the arteries ( excessive stress also causes testosterone-DHT conversion to prepare for Fight),
4. Poor blood circulation due to the deficiency of the neurotransmitters acetylcholine/nitric oxide and the dilator cGMP.
5. Excessive oxytocin triggers excessive testosterone-DHT conversion in the prostate and testicles. This is why frequent orgasm can cause excessive DHT level in the blood streamline. GABA can reduce the oxytocin synthesis while excessive L-arginine in conjunction with a high level of androgen hormone can over-excite the hypothalamus oxytocinergic nervous system for "Heat" and excessive testosterone-DHT conversion. On the other hand, excessive orgasm also produce excessive prolactin and epinephrine to induce the arterial constriction for a poor blood circulation everywhere in your body, particularly, scalp, prostate and joints. 5-HTP can reduce the epinephrine release from the hypothalamus, brain stem and adrenal medulla.
However, when Finasteride kills the 5-alpha reductase gene expression in your pituitary glands and testicles and the liver 5-alpha reductase release, you will need a high dose of L-Arginine (1000 mg 3 times a day to work with ViaPal-hGH-J (or -P), 5-HTP, DeToxiA and Fish and Borage Oil(1000 mg each meal) and calcium (200 mg)/magnesium (100 mg)/Viatmin-D(100 IU) to rejuvenate your nervous function for libido and erection! Finasteride tends to increase testosterone and estrogen( for breast growth!) but severely deplete DHT in the penile tissue, brain and bones after damaging the 5-alphase reductase gene and DNA in the liver, bone, testicles, penis, and of course, brain. Please read " On the role of DHT in the penile Growth, Repair (Re-Growth) and structure for more sexual orgasm.
==> http://www.actionlove.com/cases/case11311.htm ," "Testosterone down-regulates the levels of androgen receptor mRNA in smooth muscle cells from the rat corpora cavernosa via aromatization to estrogens - http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?
cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=8499343, " and " Phenotypic classification of male pseudohermaphroditism due to steroid 5 alpha-reductase 2 deficiency - http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?
cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=8723114 ," and " Dihydrotestosterone is the active androgen in the maintenance of nitric oxide-mediated penile erection in the rat -
http://endo.endojournals.org/cgi/reprint/136/4/1495 ." The gene/DNA destruction is very difficult to reverse. The only hope you can have is to excite the prostaglandin E-1, NO and oxytocin for the 5-alpha reductase gene/DNA repair. Please beware that it may take about 3-6 months to excite the NOergic and Oxytocinergic nervous system in your brain, liver and testicles/penis after the liver is detoxified. Don't expect any miracles from our products when your 5-alpha reductase gene/DNA is destroyed! Our products can work up to 90% efficiency/effectiveness for the Finasteride destruction cases according to our statistics. You must be aware that there is about 10% chance our products won't work if the 5-alpha reductase gene/DNA in your testicles is destroyed by Finasteride! We offer you a hope to revive your liver and pituitary-testicular function and penile erection, but we cannot guarantee your sex life at all. You are responsible for the consequence of taking this most destructive 5-alpha reductase inbibitor drug.

Finasteride caused penile shrinkage and premature ejaculation sexual orgasm; Solution for the side effects of Finasteride - liver detoxification and restoration of 5-alpha reductase gene expression with NO and Oxytonergic nervous action; stoping hair loss with MoodMax, 5-HTP and extra Fish and Borage Oil.
 

thin=depressed

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Thats it! I'm through with finasteride! :-x I want my balls back! Good article and as far as I know about biology it all sounds legit.
 

hairschmair

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I'm planning on having an operation to enlarge my penis to 9 inches once I lose another 0.5 inch (total length 0.5 inches) because of the finasteride...
 
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