propecia, wieghtlifting, hormones

[Guest]

Alright i read a lot of posts about guys who are saying propecia effects testosterone which it does. I have been reading some posts about guys saying propecia makes it impossible to gain lean muscle mass and other guys saying it is a magic pill that will make you gain wieght and muscle.

But propecia doesn't block all the testosterone in your body only some. I read that there are thousands of hormones in your body so I think propecia wouldn't effect your ability to gain lean muscle mass.

But I also read that testosterone is key to muscle mass and people would get testosterone injections but they would turn into a girl or something so they cant do it.

Someone please clarify if it would be easier or harder to gain muscle while on propecia? I think a lot of guys are confused on this issue and it needs 2 be cleared up. Propecia only blocks DHT which contributes to sexual development, body hair, and hair loss. I dont think propecia has anything to do with your bodys ability to gain wieght or lose wieght. Although I am not a doctor and that is just my opinion.

 

[Healthy Nick]

Anybody saying propecia is helping them gain muscle, is probably out of their mind.

 

[hopewas]

one, i f*****g hate your avatar. two, i'm sick of your weightlifting comments. go to the f*****g gym and work out. everyone has different training methods that work for them. what works for them might not work for you.. just be dedicated, etc.. 3. please quit bitching.. because you b**ch in almost all your posts. i know it sucks that you're young and losing your hair,... but bitching changes nothing. you can wear hats in school. at my job, you can't. so i'll be fucked when i can no longer conceal it. but that's my problem. you at least have alternatives. i know i sound harsh,.. but your bitching is getting to me. number four.. don't be a younger version of brucelee on this board because that's what i'm seeing from you. you're on here all the time, etc.. go out and enjoy life. don't let the hairloss prevent you from that

 

[hopewas]

Anybody saying propecia is helping them gain muscle, is probably out of their mind.

it's good to see that some people have common sense

 

[Axon]

YG

I've been working out for 20 months and been on Fina for 16 of those months. I've noted no difference.

Don't worry about it.

 

[Guest]

Thanks axon,

I was just wondering cause I was watching something about Barry Bonds on tv and it said he uses ZMA and it increases testostorone for muscle growth. I was just thinking about decreasing testostorone might have the oposite effect.

Hopewas-

I was just asking a question I was not bitching at all.

 

[Hairybush1]

Anybody saying propecia is helping them gain muscle, is probably out of their mind.

If taking Propecia can, in turn, raise total testosterone levels than why would it be crazy to speculate that it could aid (slightly) in muscle gains?

Im not suggesting that its going to work like a steroid but one thing is undeniable, my diet hasnt changed in months yet i have put on 10-12 pounds within the last 2 months. Im not saying it was ALL muscle but I did gain ALOT of weight. Thats a fact. Im trying to figure out how I could gain this weight without eating more food?

Could it be that little extra boost in my test levels could have contributed to this gain? Is it really crazy to ask that question?

 

[Hairybush1]

one, i f*****g hate your avatar. two, i'm sick of your weightlifting comments. go to the f*****g gym and work out. everyone has different training methods that work for them. what works for them might not work for you.. just be dedicated, etc.. 3. please quit bitching.. because you b**ch in almost all your posts. i know it sucks that you're young and losing your hair,... but bitching changes nothing. you can wear hats in school. at my job, you can't. so i'll be fucked when i can no longer conceal it. but that's my problem. you at least have alternatives. i know i sound harsh,.. but your bitching is getting to me. number four.. don't be a younger version of brucelee on this board because that's what i'm seeing from you. you're on here all the time, etc.. go out and enjoy life. don't let the hairloss prevent you from that

You are the biggest hypocrite on this board.

You preach one thing, yet most of your posts just stink of heavy anger and cross eyed bitching. Your a prick and you wear it well, but hey, every community has to have its a**h** I guess.... congratulations.

 

[Guest]

Hey hairy,

gourmetstylewellness.com says that it is completly expected to have increased testostorone levels during the first couple months of propecia use. But the effect should wear down. I am just so lost on what propecia actually does.

It decreases type 2 DHT by like 80-90 percent. It prevents all the testosterone to turn into DHT. So it seems that all the left over testosterone would not be turning into DHT so your body would seem to have more testosterone.

I am just confused because propecia says it blocks testosterone and testostorone I hear is pretty important for gaining muscle. I was just interested because Barry Bonds was using a steroid that increases his testostorone levels and he is huge. I was just wondering if decreasing testostorone leves would make it harder to gain wieght.

Eventually on propecia wouldnt testostorone levels dramatically plumit? Or would they just go lower to the normal level?

 

[Guest]

Alright i read a lot of posts about guys who are saying propecia effects testosterone which it does. I have been reading some posts about guys saying propecia makes it impossible to gain lean muscle mass and other guys saying it is a magic pill that will make you gain wieght and muscle.

But propecia doesn't block all the testosterone in your body only some. I read that there are thousands of hormones in your body so I think propecia wouldn't effect your ability to gain lean muscle mass.

But I also read that testosterone is key to muscle mass and people would get testosterone injections but they would turn into a girl or something so they cant do it.

Someone please clarify if it would be easier or harder to gain muscle while on propecia? I think a lot of guys are confused on this issue and it needs 2 be cleared up. Propecia only blocks DHT which contributes to sexual development, body hair, and hair loss. I dont think propecia has anything to do with your bodys ability to gain wieght or lose wieght. Although I am not a doctor and that is just my opinion.

Try medlars or related medical search engine. The issue seems to be fairly straighforward. Either DHT does or does not impact anabloism.

 

[Guest]

http://www.gourmetstylewellness.com/download/finmicro.pdf

If you look at this study, it is clear that finasteride increases testosterone and decreases DHT levels at all dosages studied.

It does not answer your question on the impact of this on anabolism but does answer one basic fact. Propecia does not reduce test.

From personal experience, finasteride does not assist in muscle building. If it did, guys would be dropping proscar like candy.

 

[hopewas]

one, i f*****g hate your avatar. two, i'm sick of your weightlifting comments. go to the f*****g gym and work out. everyone has different training methods that work for them. what works for them might not work for you.. just be dedicated, etc.. 3. please quit bitching.. because you b**ch in almost all your posts. i know it sucks that you're young and losing your hair,... but bitching changes nothing. you can wear hats in school. at my job, you can't. so i'll be fucked when i can no longer conceal it. but that's my problem. you at least have alternatives. i know i sound harsh,.. but your bitching is getting to me. number four.. don't be a younger version of brucelee on this board because that's what i'm seeing from you. you're on here all the time, etc.. go out and enjoy life. don't let the hairloss prevent you from that

You are the biggest hypocrite on this board.


You preach one thing, yet most of your posts just stink of heavy anger and cross eyed bitching. Your a prick and you wear it well, but hey, every community has to have its a**h** I guess.... congratulations.

i just say what's on my mind... i'm sorry if what i say is true and hurts weak minded people like yourself.

p.s - quit being brucelee's b**ch.. he's a no longer a moderator

 

[Guest]

Bruce, thanks for clearing that up. But what if you took a steroid like ZMA which increases testosterone levels while on propecia? Would that have any negative effects or positive effects?

 

[Guest]

Bruce, thanks for clearing that up. But what if you took a steroid like ZMA which increases testosterone levels while on propecia? Would that have any negative effects or positive effects?

Could not say. It seems the entire issue here is whether DHT impacts anabolism or is testosterone alone sufficient?

I have NOT come across anything yet on that.

 

[Scaggs]

Testosterone is key to building. Its the best. So the more test you have in your body the better off you'll be when it comes to building muscle. if propecia stops the conversion of the "prescious testosterone" to the shitty DHT, why would that be so crazy to think that it would aid atleast a little in building muscle?

you don't see bodybuilders injecting DHT shots in their *** do you? no.. and why? because DHT sucks. Test Rules!

and by the way, my acne on my face is throbbing right now. i know my test level ratio to dht is now in way favor of it being testosterone. i've been training religeously for over 4 years and i can feel the difference in the gym and in my recovery.

basically to answer you question: i'd say do not worry in the least that propecia is going to inhibit gains. infact i think it will help. just my opinion

Scaggs

 

[Hairybush1]

Testosterone is key to building. Its the best. So the more test you have in your body the better off you'll be when it comes to building muscle. if propecia stops the conversion of the "prescious testosterone" to the shitty DHT, why would that be so crazy to think that it would aid atleast a little in building muscle?

you don't see bodybuilders injecting DHT shots in their *** do you? no.. and why? because DHT sucks. Test Rules!

and by the way, my acne on my face is throbbing right now. i know my test level ratio to dht is now in way favor of it being testosterone. i've been training religeously for over 4 years and i can feel the difference in the gym and in my recovery.

basically to answer you question: i'd say do not worry in the least that propecia is going to inhibit gains. infact i think it will help. just my opinion

Scaggs

EXACTLY!!! its funny to hear some guys say thats its impossible to add ten pounds of muscle in 8 weeks. yeah? tell that to my body when it gets injected with 600 mg of test enanthate a week and a few d-bols a day.

 

[Hairybush1]

one, i f*****g hate your avatar. two, i'm sick of your weightlifting comments. go to the f*****g gym and work out. everyone has different training methods that work for them. what works for them might not work for you.. just be dedicated, etc.. 3. please quit bitching.. because you b**ch in almost all your posts. i know it sucks that you're young and losing your hair,... but bitching changes nothing. you can wear hats in school. at my job, you can't. so i'll be fucked when i can no longer conceal it. but that's my problem. you at least have alternatives. i know i sound harsh,.. but your bitching is getting to me. number four.. don't be a younger version of brucelee on this board because that's what i'm seeing from you. you're on here all the time, etc.. go out and enjoy life. don't let the hairloss prevent you from that

You are the biggest hypocrite on this board.


You preach one thing, yet most of your posts just stink of heavy anger and cross eyed bitching. Your a prick and you wear it well, but hey, every community has to have its a**h** I guess.... congratulations.

i just say what's on my mind... i'm sorry if what i say is true and hurts weak minded people like yourself.

p.s - quit being brucelee's b**ch.. he's a no longer a moderator

Weak minded? You are delusional, turd burgler. try to look from the outside in and then you ll see just how stupid some of your posts are. Your the one that comes off as bitter and angry and it shows very clearly in what you have to say and how you say it.

 

[Scaggs]

EXACTLY!!! its funny to hear some guys say thats its impossible to add ten pounds of muscle in 8 weeks. yeah? tell that to my body when it gets injected with 600 mg of test enanthate a week and a few d-bols a day.

HAHAHA!! yea no shittin. more like 20 to 30lbs

Scaggs

 

[hopewas]

one, i f*****g hate your avatar. two, i'm sick of your weightlifting comments. go to the f*****g gym and work out. everyone has different training methods that work for them. what works for them might not work for you.. just be dedicated, etc.. 3. please quit bitching.. because you b**ch in almost all your posts. i know it sucks that you're young and losing your hair,... but bitching changes nothing. you can wear hats in school. at my job, you can't. so i'll be fucked when i can no longer conceal it. but that's my problem. you at least have alternatives. i know i sound harsh,.. but your bitching is getting to me. number four.. don't be a younger version of brucelee on this board because that's what i'm seeing from you. you're on here all the time, etc.. go out and enjoy life. don't let the hairloss prevent you from that

You are the biggest hypocrite on this board.


You preach one thing, yet most of your posts just stink of heavy anger and cross eyed bitching. Your a prick and you wear it well, but hey, every community has to have its a**h** I guess.... congratulations.

i just say what's on my mind... i'm sorry if what i say is true and hurts weak minded people like yourself.

p.s - quit being brucelee's b**ch.. he's a no longer a moderator

Weak minded? You are delusional, turd burgler. try to look from the outside in and then you ll see just how stupid some of your posts are. Your the one that comes off as bitter and angry and it shows very clearly in what you have to say and how you say it.

if i'm angry, etc... how come i smile every time i see responses like yours. it's so easy to get a rise out of some people. sh*t only bothers people when they know it's true. post whatever you want or think about me.. but it doesn't bother me for the reason i stated

 

[Hairybush1]

You THINK your funny but in REALITY most of what you say is jibberish/ anger. Your a dickhead in most of your responses and you know it and know your trying to just laugh it off and expect that the person your insulting should laugh it off too.

Do you think you can attempt to be funny without being rude or are YOU that miserable?



























Jackass.