questions about hair pieces ??

[luvno1]

so i am new to this forum and my hair loss is progressing week by week as i am on trt so i am thinking about wearing a piece but i want to ask some questions about it -:
1) can you wear a piece for a week without removing it and clean it at the end of the week ??
2)can you sleep in it without damaging the system ?
3)can you go camping with your friends without any problems ?
4)are they very expensive and hard to maintain ?
5)how do people react when they know that you are wearing a toupee ?
6)what are the pros and cons of it??
plz brothers reply i am really serious

 

[Noah]

Hi Luvno

Here are the answers to your questions:

1) can you wear a piece for a week without removing it and clean it at the end of the week?

Yes. Easily.

2)can you sleep in it without damaging the system ?

Most guys nowadays sleep in their systems. It does create some wear on the system, but you can still get at least 4 - 6 months of life out of a system. Using a silk pillow helps reduce the wear and tear.

3)can you go camping with your friends without any problems ?

Sure. If you are going for longer than, say, 10 days you may need to find some private spot for half-an-hour to maintain your unit. It is easier if you have a style which doesn't expose the front hairline to full view.

4)are they very expensive and hard to maintain ?

If you buy them off the internet you can get a good one for around US$250, and you should budget for 3 per year to keep them looking good, at least for the first year. I won't put any sellers' names here, but if you want suggestions PM me. Once you get used to it, maintenance takes about an hour a week.

5)how do people react when they know that you are wearing a toupee ?

Unless you are already slick bald, there is no need for most people to know. I haven't even told my family. I have only really told a few serious girlfriends, and they have all been supportive. I don't use the word 'toupee' though - it gives the wrong image. I say "hair extensions".

6)what are the pros and cons

Pros: you get a great looking head of hair (mine is better than my natural hair ever was), it's instantaneous, risk free, the price is OK, you get a huge increase in attention from women. Cons: forward planning to have hair, glue etc. It's a secret you have to keep - finding private time for maintenance, keeping your spare piece and glue hidden etc. You will likely want to tell long-term girlfriends, which is a bit awkward.

Good luck

Noah

 

[grincher]

so i am new to this forum and my hair loss is progressing week by week as i am on trt so i am thinking about wearing a piece but i want to ask some questions about it -:
1) can you wear a piece for a week without removing it and clean it at the end of the week ??

yes. even in hot climates with oily skin a week is fine. often wearers will go 2 or 3 weeks without problems.

2)can you sleep in it without damaging the system ?

yes. as said it will create wear, unless you can sleep on your front or a silk or satin pillow case. Even then you should still get 4 to 6 months from each one if not longer.

3)can you go camping with your friends without any problems ?

yes. It wont stop you camping!

4)are they very expensive and hard to maintain ?

depends where you go and how you do it. they vary from a few hundred bucks to $5000. price is no indication of quality. I buy 2 a year from my supplier and products are kept at a minimum. DIY is cheaper, gives you more options and you learn more.

5)how do people react when they know that you are wearing a toupee ?

no one has ever found out unless I told them first. those that may suspect have said nothing or altered behaviour. Even those that know, probably forget that I wear. Its just not an issue.

6)what are the pros and cons of it??

the cons are very small compared to the benefits I have received. Of course ,I prefer it to be my own hair and it would save me money, but its not very much I spend a year. I spend less time on my hair now then I did before.

I have been the replies in bold. PM if you need more help

 

[luvno1]

Hi Luvno

Here are the answers to your questions:

1) can you wear a piece for a week without removing it and clean it at the end of the week?

Yes. Easily.

2)can you sleep in it without damaging the system ?

Most guys nowadays sleep in their systems. It does create some wear on the system, but you can still get at least 4 - 6 months of life out of a system. Using a silk pillow helps reduce the wear and tear.

3)can you go camping with your friends without any problems ?

Sure. If you are going for longer than, say, 10 days you may need to find some private spot for half-an-hour to maintain your unit. It is easier if you have a style which doesn't expose the front hairline to full view.

4)are they very expensive and hard to maintain ?

If you buy them off the internet you can get a good one for around US$250, and you should budget for 3 per year to keep them looking good, at least for the first year. I won't put any sellers' names here, but if you want suggestions PM me. Once you get used to it, maintenance takes about an hour a week.

5)how do people react when they know that you are wearing a toupee ?

Unless you are already slick bald, there is no need for most people to know. I haven't even told my family. I have only really told a few serious girlfriends, and they have all been supportive. I don't use the word 'toupee' though - it gives the wrong image. I say "hair extensions".

6)what are the pros and cons

Pros: you get a great looking head of hair (mine is better than my natural hair ever was), it's instantaneous, risk free, the price is OK, you get a huge increase in attention from women. Cons: forward planning to have hair, glue etc. It's a secret you have to keep - finding private time for maintenance, keeping your spare piece and glue hidden etc. You will likely want to tell long-term girlfriends, which is a bit awkward.

Good luck

Noah

one more question noah mate....which one is best tape or glue ??

 

[Noah]

one more question noah mate....which one is best tape or glue ??

Tape gives a stronger hold and is easier to clean up. Glue gives a finer more undetectable result. I normally wear tape around the back and sides, and glue at the front hairline, with a piece of tape about half-an-inch behind the hairline to provide some additional strength. I think that is a pretty typical plan. I do partially expose my front hairline normally though. If I were going camping with mates, or waterskiing say, I would probably do all tape and brush my front hairline down.

Feel free to ask as many questions as you like.

 

[luvno1]

Tape gives a stronger hold and is easier to clean up. Glue gives a finer more undetectable result. I normally wear tape around the back and sides, and glue at the front hairline, with a piece of tape about half-an-inch behind the hairline to provide some additional strength. I think that is a pretty typical plan. I do partially expose my front hairline normally though. If I were going camping with mates, or waterskiing say, I would probably do all tape and brush my front hairline down.

Feel free to ask as many questions as you like.

thanks for your info mate....thanks a lot

 

[ppo8820]

Answers I have so far

so i am new to this forum and my hair loss is progressing week by week as i am on trt so i am thinking about wearing a piece but i want to ask some questions about it -:
1) can you wear a piece for a week without removing it and clean it at the end of the week ??
2)can you sleep in it without damaging the system ?
3)can you go camping with your friends without any problems ?
4)are they very expensive and hard to maintain ?
5)how do people react when they know that you are wearing a toupee ?
6)what are the pros and cons of it??
plz brothers reply i am really serious

1. Yes you should be able to, and from what I have gathered, cleaning it and reapplying it are not that hard. Just watch some youtube videos for ideas and examples.
2. I sleep in mine, it looks awful in the am, but it doesnt ruin it. They say to use a satin pillow case.
3. Im sure, just bring some tape or glue for emergencies.
4. I think there is a learning curve to them that takes time to learn. Once you do, its smooth sailing.
5. I dont care. I say I bought it and thats that. If you are confident, people wont question you.
6. Pros are full density hair you simply cant get from a transplant. Cons are upkeep and the adjustment period.

 

[Rohit Sharma]

If you are facing problem of hair loss & hair thinning you can use home remedies like in coconut oil you can add Amla & bheat it. After oil is cooled you can apply it on Scalp.

 

[Louvan]

Hair Pieces with Elastic Band, are they any good?

Hi all,


I have been using concealers for many years but my hair loss has reached a point where it cannot longer be hidden by concealers alone so, I've begun looking into hair pieces.


Today I went to a hair piece supplier here in New Zealand and I tried a hair piece for the first time in my life (see pic below -- once is cut in and styled I suppose it could look OK). It was a full cap with synthetic hair and had an elastic band around it; it was very easy to put on and it felt quite comfortable and secure on my head. I understand the appeal of using tape or glue and have the system securely attached to your head for several weeks, but for someone with sensitive skin like mine this type would be more appropriate; besides I could take it off at night and when I go swimming (3 times a week). Yet, when I wanted to know more about this type of hair pieces I have found nothing in the hair loss forums. Does anybody know why this is? Anybody wearing a hair piece with elastic band out there?

 

[Noah]

Hi Louvan

Don't take this the wrong way, but what you are describing sounds like a wig of the sort that women wear (or at least used to wear) for an evening out over their real hair. I have to say, though, it looks better than I would have expected.

Male hairloss sufferers tend to go for a different type of product for several reasons. First, although it may have felt snug on your head, an elastic band wouldn't keep it in place if someone pulled it, or possibly even in a very strong wind. Most male hairwearers would not want to take the risk of their piece being dislodged in those circumstances, so an elastic band would not work for them. It sounds like you are more relaxed about that, if you are considering taking the piece off to swim. Most male wearers want to people to believe that their hairpiece is their real hair, so they don't remove it in public, and they don't want to run any risk of it coming off accidentally.

Second, although the wig looks pretty good on you, it is likely to be a cheaper one-size-fits-all product. I suspect the base material on it is quite coarse and visible on close inspection, so someone standing over you or close to you (eg on a bus) would be able to see the base and tell you are wearing a wig. Again, that wouldn't be acceptable to most male hairpiece wearers, who want to conceal the fact they wear. The realism achievable with a wig like this does not compare with the modern fine lace and skin hairpieces which most posters here wear.

Third, most wearers choose to keep as much of their real hair as they can, and just cover the bit that is balding. That is to do with both comfort and realism - it could be hot wearing a full wig, especially if you are not going to shave off all your real hair, and there are some parts of a wig that are difficult to make look natural, especially the nape of the neck and the sideburns area.

I hope that explains the lac of other users here. All that said, if it suits your requirements and lifestyle, go for it!

 

[luvno1]

noah i want to know one more thing man....how does it feel like to wear a hairpiece??is it very comfortable like your own hair or does it feels like you are wearing a hat all the time and also did you face any problems like itching,irritation or something like that and do you sleep in your system ???some people say that it feel like you are wearing nothing on the top and some said that their head feels warm in it like wearing a hat.....what is your experience with it ??

 

[Noah]

Hi Luvno

It's totally comfortable. Somebody else described it to me like this: you can feel your hairpiece in the same way you can feel your underpants. It's not completely imperceptible - if you think about it you are conscious that it is there, but once you get used to it you forget it is there and it just becomes the normal feeling of your head. It's not warm or thick like a hat - more like having a paper tissue on your head. These things are really light and breathable. I have never had any particular issues with irritation or itch, although some people do. I take mine off once a week and sleep without it for a night, and that keeps my scalp in good shape.

I must say at night when your head is on the pillow you do become conscious of the pull that the movement of your head puts on the tape. It is not sore or uncomfortable, but I used to worry that the tape would shift or come loose during the night, and the hair would have come off or become embedded in glue by the morning (particularly a concern if you are sharing a room). But if you do a weekly retape that doesn't really happen. I have also adjusted my sleeping position so that I am not putting my piece under tension much now. Some guys use a silk pillowcase to help with this too.

 

[luvno1]

thanks for your info mate....you cleared my doubt thanks a lot

 

[luvno1]

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[petarmkd]

first cut

Hi guys, i was wearing my first hair piece last year but since i had accident breaking my leg and have surgery immediately, and then laying in hospital for two weeks, i just trow it away since all the nurses were asking me why my hair was looking wired ...(3 weeks without touch ups, and it was really old maybe more than 6 months). And now after a year i ordered a new one. This one is full lace and matching my color completely and i wanted to give it a second try. But, this time i don't want to face same problems as last time if something happens (life is bi**h). Searching on net i found out that some woman do braids of their existing hair and then sew in the lace unit, but i could't find anything about this technique on men. My idea was to braid my hair in back and on perimeter of the lace and glue with white ghost bond in hairline to make it look natural and make it last longer since braids would hold for 6+ weeks. So my question is, has anyone tried this method ? or maybe even just taught of it? What do you guys think of this idea? And i have another problem witch holds me like a week from attaching it. In my country where i live (Macedonia) no body ever heard about hair pieces. Even the biggest hair stylists don't know how to cut it ( they are afraid that they can ruin in because they turn green when i show it to them ) and i just don't know where to go to get the perfect hair cut. The nearest hair club is like 500km from me but they won't accept cutting and styling it since i have not ordered from them. And now i don't know what to do, maybe some tutorial on do it yourself cut and style would be 100 times better i guess since the last one was ruined by barber that didn't know what he was doing. So guys any answer on any of my questions would make me more than happy since living in a country full of people stuck in 1900s is making me sick. Thank you in advance.

 

[Noah]

Hi Petarmkd

That was really bad luck - sorry to hear that. I have thought about what I would do if I found myself in hospital or in prison for an extended period without notice - somewhere where it is not practical to do maintenance on your hairpiece. I think you did the only sensible thing - to remove the piece and shave bald, and sort it out later.

That said, it has never happened to me, and it was bad luck that it happened to you. There is a good chance that it will never happen to you again. If you liked yourself better with artificial hair, I don't think you should let this put you off.

The braiding technique was used on men in the 70s and 80s, but it is a very outdated method now. I guess it was meant to give you confidence that the hairpiece wouldn't come off in days when they didn't have the super strong adhesives that we have now. But the braiding caused traction baldness, was uncomfortable and highly detectable to the touch. The hairpiece had to be thick to hide the bulk of the braiding underneath. The hairpiece became loose as the braided hair grew, allowing the unit to slip around. And most men still had to use toupee tape at the hairline, because they had no hair to braid there. Altogether not a good system, and nowadays unnecessary, because of the improvements in adhesives. Nowadays if you want to you can use a glue which will keep your unit in place for a month or more. Whether that is hygienically or cosmetically a good idea is another question, but you can do it if you want to (and people who use Hair Club for Men and similar places do do this).

As for cut-ins, I think your best solution is to buy your hairpieces from a place which cuts them in remotely from a photograph, so that you can wear them straight from the packet. Hair Direct does this. NorthWest Lace works with a stylist called Debbie Theriault to do the same thing. I have used her service, and she is excellent - better than you would believe possible.

Noah

 

[petarmkd]

Hi Petarmkd

That was really bad luck - sorry to hear that. I have thought about what I would do if I found myself in hospital or in prison for an extended period without notice - somewhere where it is not practical to do maintenance on your hairpiece. I think you did the only sensible thing - to remove the piece and shave bald, and sort it out later.

That said, it has never happened to me, and it was bad luck that it happened to you. There is a good chance that it will never happen to you again. If you liked yourself better with artificial hair, I don't think you should let this put you off.

The braiding technique was used on men in the 70s and 80s, but it is a very outdated method now. I guess it was meant to give you confidence that the hairpiece wouldn't come off in days when they didn't have the super strong adhesives that we have now. But the braiding caused traction baldness, was uncomfortable and highly detectable to the touch. The hairpiece had to be thick to hide the bulk of the braiding underneath. The hairpiece became loose as the braided hair grew, allowing the unit to slip around. And most men still had to use toupee tape at the hairline, because they had no hair to braid there. Altogether not a good system, and nowadays unnecessary, because of the improvements in adhesives. Nowadays if you want to you can use a glue which will keep your unit in place for a month or more. Whether that is hygienically or cosmetically a good idea is another question, but you can do it if you want to (and people who use Hair Club for Men and similar places do do this).

As for cut-ins, I think your best solution is to buy your hairpieces from a place which cuts them in remotely from a photograph, so that you can wear them straight from the packet. Hair Direct does this. NorthWest Lace works with a stylist called Debbie Theriault to do the same thing. I have used her service, and she is excellent - better than you would believe possible.

Noah

Thank you Noah, i just hope that something similar wont occur. As for gluing, it's not that i hate glue but i am afraid that something(like that with my leg) will happen and then it will be easier to remove the hair piece and have my original hair for as long as i am in that kind of situation. As u said chances something similar to happen are low but still something is holding me back from doing it with glue. As for the glue, what brand and model do u recommend? I used silicon based for pu part and ghost bond xl for lace part but now it is full lace and i guess just ghost bond is fine? Also i hate using tape i am not getting even 2-3 days with any kind of tape. And thank you for recommendation for hair direct and northwest i will consider them in my next purchase. As for now i hope i will find someone that will do that cut-in.

 

[Noah]

Well, unless you plan to use an acrylic glue for a month-long Hair Club-style bond, you will always be able to loosen the glue and take your piece off using surgical alcohol, which is easy to get in hospital.

I hesitate to recommend particular adhesives, because everyone's body chemistry is different and so you need to experiment for yourself. But I usually use Walker's no-shine tape for the back and sides of my hairpiece, and Davlyn Black glue for the hairline. Lots of guys use Ghostbond for lace bases, although I find it very messy to apply.

I am surprised you only get 2 or 3 days from tape. What type are you using? Are you cleaning your scalp with alcohol before applying? If you are still having problems, you might consider using a medical antiperspirant and/or scalp protector like Topguard on your scalp.

 

[petarmkd]

Well, unless you plan to use an acrylic glue for a month-long Hair Club-style bond, you will always be able to loosen the glue and take your piece off using surgical alcohol, which is easy to get in hospital.

I hesitate to recommend particular adhesives, because everyone's body chemistry is different and so you need to experiment for yourself. But I usually use Walker's no-shine tape for the back and sides of my hairpiece, and Davlyn Black glue for the hairline. Lots of guys use Ghostbond for lace bases, although I find it very messy to apply.

I am surprised you only get 2 or 3 days from tape. What type are you using? Are you cleaning your scalp with alcohol before applying? If you are still having problems, you might consider using a medical antiperspirant and/or scalp protector like Topguard on your scalp.

Hi, thanks for your reply, today i was looking on HD site and convinced myself to buy Walker Ultra Hold Tape, and plus Aluminium Chlorohydrate antiperspirant. I will try this and i hope it will have good hold. And i was always wondering why people use 99% Alcohol. Isn't it damages the hair? Does it make it dull and dry? Anyway, thank you again, you were big help for me

 

[Noah]

I hope that combo works for you. Yes, alcohol does dry the hair, so you need to get it on the base of your hairpiece (where it can release the glue) without getting it on the hair. The best thing is a bottle with a long thin nozzle.