racial trends with hairloss

[powersam]

so some races have a higher incidence of male pattern baldness than others, but you'd think that cold climate races would have less male pattern baldness than hot climate races. it seems to be the other way around though, with african races having low rates of male pattern baldness and caucasians having a higher incidence. don't really understand it

 

[chewbaca]

so some races have a higher incidence of male pattern baldness than others, but you'd think that cold climate races would have less male pattern baldness than hot climate races. it seems to be the other way around though, with african races having low rates of male pattern baldness and caucasians having a higher incidence. don't really understand it

i think racial genetics is a factor..not climate.i seen tons of africans who are bald.how do u explain that

 

[powersam]

it doesnt really matter how many "you've seen". statistics in this area show african men have a far lower incidence of male pattern baldness. and humans evolve around their climate, one would think hair would be more useful to people living in cold areas than it would be to people living in hot areas. it would then make sense that hairloss would be more prevalent in races which have evolved in hot climates, yet this is not the case.

 

[dark_one]

First of all I don't think there is a correlation with climate, because East Asians, esp. those who evolved in cold climates in northern china/mongolia have statiscally lower male pattern baldness rates than those from Europe and Middle East. I include Middle Eastern people with Europeans because there obviously is a lot of genetic overlap between the two. There is some tendency in that racial group for higher rates of male pattern baldness, but it is not clear why. But why compare various populations? A person in a given ethnic group should compare himself to those similar to him, then his genetic tendencies can be considered normal.

 

[ronaldkia]

no, you cannot look at it that way. you can tough look at it that maybe since nations like africa and parts of asia are in general poor, people them have to walk to work, ride bikes, work long hours of labor, making them spend a lot of energy, so they dont lose their hairs, their body/ hair stays firm. Here in Northern america, you see a lot of wihte collar workers balding because most sit down all day at their office, and stay inactive, and worst is they go home after work and still stay inactive.

 

[powersam]

that ronaldki was quite an incisive remark

 

[Guest]

yes, lots of african who are bald, and they have great prediposicion to build muscle, wich means they have lots of testorone, am i right?

 

[powersam]

there are far less bald africans than caucasians. its simple as that

 

[iamnaked]

no, you cannot look at it that way. you can tough look at it that maybe since nations like africa and parts of asia are in general poor, people them have to walk to work, ride bikes, work long hours of labor, making them spend a lot of energy, so they dont lose their hairs, their body/ hair stays firm. Here in Northern america, you see a lot of wihte collar workers balding because most sit down all day at their office, and stay inactive, and worst is they go home after work and still stay inactive.

If this had anything to do with hairloss, you should be able to jack in your sedentary job, start running and then be able to note a difference in your hair. Unfortunately it doesn't seem to work like that. There's a guy at work who goes for a 1 hour run every lunchtime and hits the gym several times a week. Bald as a freshly plucked chicken.

 

[Wezz]

for most africans imo its easy to go for the bald loook, look at m.jordan for example ( i dont know if hes bald though )

 

[The Gardener]

no, you cannot look at it that way. you can tough look at it that maybe since nations like africa and parts of asia are in general poor, people them have to walk to work, ride bikes, work long hours of labor, making them spend a lot of energy, so they dont lose their hairs, their body/ hair stays firm. Here in Northern america, you see a lot of wihte collar workers balding because most sit down all day at their office, and stay inactive, and worst is they go home after work and still stay inactive.

Please quote a source for this phenomenon as a cause of hairloss. If you are unable to quote any scientific backing for this statement, then the remaining assumption is that you are pulling this BS out of your ***.

In the future, please make sure to clearly label when you are stating something that is a proven fact, or something that you are pulling out of your ***. It helps the newbies sort reality from fiction.

Thank you.

 

[Guest]

no, you cannot look at it that way. you can tough look at it that maybe since nations like africa and parts of asia are in general poor, people them have to walk to work, ride bikes, work long hours of labor, making them spend a lot of energy, so they dont lose their hairs, their body/ hair stays firm. Here in Northern america, you see a lot of wihte collar workers balding because most sit down all day at their office, and stay inactive, and worst is they go home after work and still stay inactive.

That is BS. When I started losing my hair I was doing several sports and following a good and healthy diet.

I have tried doing 1 year of hard training in GYM and do a good diet with Fish, low fat, cereals, etc. and my hairloss continued.. And I can say it even got worser when I trained out, since I stimulated the growth hormone and created more production of testosterone, and hairloss increased.

So, saying hairloss is due of SEDENTARY lifestyle, is BULLSHIT.

 

[ronaldkia]

well to the last 4-5 posters, you the one bullshitting, and for those who say theyve been hitting the gym, could be, but then it must be that you were doing so in frustration because you had no gf. and that is huge cause of hair loss.

 

[The Gardener]

well to the last 4-5 posters, you the one bullshitting

Actually, you are the one bullshitting, ronnie.

First, you make the following completely outrageous claim:

you can tough look at it that maybe since nations like africa and parts of asia are in general poor, people them have to walk to work, ride bikes, work long hours of labor, making them spend a lot of energy, so they dont lose their hairs, their body/ hair stays firm. Here in Northern america, you see a lot of wihte collar workers balding because most sit down all day at their office, and stay inactive, and worst is they go home after work and still stay inactive.

You were asked to share the source of this claim. Any source... ANYTHING!... a website link, a link to a study, a magazine article, something you saw on the back of ladies home journal... anything that would lead us to believe that this is something other than a claim that was pulled out of your ***.

You declined to post any backup. Instead, you respond with an even more outrageous, unproven, unbacked claim:

well to the last 4-5 posters, you the one bullshitting, and for those who say theyve been hitting the gym, could be, but then it must be that you were doing so in frustration because you had no gf. and that is huge cause of hair loss.

Not having a girlfriend is a "huge cause" of hairloss?

Says who? Dr Ronnie? That's the most ridiculous piece of bullshit I've heard yet.

Ronnie, you have now made two claims, and have provided zero backup to either of them. You are 0 for 2, and the ronniekia credibility index = zero.

I have a suggestion for you. It's actually quite okay to present and talk about personal opinions here on this website. However, in order to do so and maintain credibility, you need to qualify statements you make as either being "fact" or "personal opinion". I'll take the liberty of re-wording your claims to give you some examples to work with for future postings.

Ronniekia's first claim:

you can tough look at it that maybe since nations like africa and parts of asia are in general poor, people them have to walk to work, ride bikes, work long hours of labor, making them spend a lot of energy, so they dont lose their hairs, their body/ hair stays firm. Here in Northern america, you see a lot of wihte collar workers balding because most sit down all day at their office, and stay inactive, and worst is they go home after work and still stay inactive.

Gardener's revision:

Fellas, I'm just pulling this thought out of my ***, but perhaps nations like africa and parts of asia are in general poor, people them have to walk to work, ride bikes, work long hours of labor, making them spend a lot of energy, so they dont lose their hairs, their body/ hair stays firm. Here in Northern america, you see a lot of wihte collar workers balding because most sit down all day at their office, and stay inactive, and worst is they go home after work and still stay inactive. Now, this is just a personal claim that I am pulling out of my ***, and I don't have any scientific evidence to back this with.

Ronniekia's second claim:

well to the last 4-5 posters, you the one bullshitting, and for those who say theyve been hitting the gym, could be, but then it must be that you were doing so in frustration because you had no gf. and that is huge cause of hair loss.

Gardener's revision:

Now, there is no scientific backing for this, so I'm basically pulling this out of my ***, but maybe those who say theyve been hitting the gym, could be, but then it must be that you were doing so in frustration because you had no gf. and that is huge cause of hair loss, in my opinion, but I can't find any internet articles or anything scientific out there to back this so I'm basically pulling it out of my ***.

Ronnie, if you use the templates I have typed for the revisions, it becomes a win-win situation. You can present your claims, and do so in an accurate fashion that helps establish and build credibility, as opposed to losing it, and then getting all in a hissy fit, blowing another gasket, and start spouting nasty nonsense to everyone like you did last week.

That's Gardener's stand.

Regards,
Gardener

 

[dorianyates]

Hey guys..don't even waste your breath on Ronald McDonald ..he just likes to blow off pond slime and is full of hot air. Read his other posts on here and you will find out.

 

[iamnaked]

Hey guys..don't even waste your breath on Ronald McDonald ..he just likes to blow off pond slime and is full of hot air. Read his other posts on here and you will find out.

Cosign. Don't feed the troll.

 

[ronaldkia]

pshhh, at end of the day im right. proof? its commen sense and reality, thats the proof. what proof is there that male pattern baldness is genetics. you should join the merck frost and pfizer team on developing new hair loss drugs derived from prostate medications bro cause thats your theory and thats your proof.

 

[dorianyates]

.....and as Jean Chretian would say...the proof is the proof because its the proof......HAHA

 

[The Gardener]

pshhh, at end of the day im right. proof? its commen sense and reality, thats the proof. what proof is there that male pattern baldness is genetics. you should join the merck frost and pfizer team on developing new hair loss drugs derived from prostate medications bro cause thats your theory and thats your proof.

Nice try at a deflection... I didn't make any claims, but if you are referring to my general belief that male pattern baldness is genetic, I can post citations to studies, doctor's briefs, and medical articles up the yin yang. As far as your claims are concerned, all you can cite is your own a**h**.

at end of the day im right. proof? its commen sense and reality, thats the proof.

So, it's "commen sense", is it?

Well, allow me to share with the world...

Commen Sense (sic)
by RonnieKia:

Ronaldkia says that male pattern baldness sufferers "all c*m fast" during sexual activity
http://www.gourmetstylewellness.com/discussions ... hp?t=22848

- BUT -

"i notice that a lot of people who are bald...dont seem to be virile...and poor muscle mass."
http://www.gourmetstylewellness.com/discussions ... hp?t=22480

- But however... -

"bald men have higher sex drives... "
http://www.gourmetstylewellness.com/discussions ... hp?t=22701

- And on another topic... -

Having excess fat in the face, "baby face", is associated with hairloss
http://www.gourmetstylewellness.com/discussions ... hp?t=21679

- but... -

Exercise to reduce fat is also causative of hairloss, but sex is good for avoiding hairloss
http://www.gourmetstylewellness.com/discussions ... hp?t=21911

Lack of sex causes hairloss
http://www.gourmetstylewellness.com/discussions ... hp?t=23001

- BUT -

"all v**** users (90%) have male patterned baldness" and the rest have psychological conditions
http://www.gourmetstylewellness.com/discussions ... hp?t=22845

- AND -

"Imaginative masturbation" overworks brain and is the cause of hairloss
http://www.gourmetstylewellness.com/discussions ... hp?t=22847

- and -

"bald/ balding men have higher sex drive"
http://www.gourmetstylewellness.com/discussions ... hp?t=22391

- But... -

It's impossible to suffer male pattern baldness if you have a girlfriend and maintain your libido

- and on another topic -
Lonliness is the number one stressor and causative factor in hairloss
http://www.gourmetstylewellness.com/discussions ... hp?t=22703

- but, on the contrary... -

Don't go out and meet folks, because being "too hyper" causes hairloss
http://www.gourmetstylewellness.com/discussions ... hp?t=21680

- and to top it all off... -

Ronaldkia grows a "new bone" on his scalp, and attempts to attribute it to Rogaine usage
http://www.gourmetstylewellness.com/discussions ... hp?t=24833

 

[ronaldkia]

yes. all those posts are made are legit, and have commen sense in them. the only posts you can come up with are male pattern baldness is from genes, wait till latest drugs derived from prostate pills come out, does this work/ does that work, lets try all the drugs out there and accept male pattern baldness as being something natural we cant do anything about naturally. its a loser's way out really.

p.s... is it me, or does this guy act like he's some sort of a doctor? we all know he's a moderator tracking me down, but does he have to start talking like he has a phd?