Thinned sides and back are obvious Telogen Effluvium. I just tried rubbing the shaved sides of my head and a lot of tiny hairs came out. I generally wear the high and tight look.
Real Talk: I Think Half The People Here Have Severe Telogen Effluvium, And The Other Half Bdd
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I really can't tell if your hairs are minaturized from your photo. Tirosent is really expensive. What are your thoughts about Natural Thyroid or Armour Thyroid. My endo does not recommend it due to lack of consistency of the T4 and T3. I remember reading that Hashimoto's can accelerate hair loss if you are prone to male pattern baldness. I really think since you and I have diffuse thinning it is a combo of age related thinning, male pattern baldness gene finally expressing itself and thyroid related. So it's always going to be a challenge to try to stop the progression with all these factors. I still seriously doubt you will be bald in the next decade. Most high Norwood's are very obvious by 35 years old. You had uber thick hair at that age. You still have enough hair to camouflage your situation for another decade. I don't think you will be a rare case that goes bald in 5 years to 10 years in your 40s. However, I did see a guy who it did happen to but he was slightly diffuse when he turned 40.
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I agree! Most have talogen effluvium going on so they have less density which magnify male pattern baldness.
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Do you think if my shedding during the last 7 months subsided, ill recover and it goes back to what it was?
I roided for 3 years and despite male pattern baldness gene, i minituarized at a laughable speed.
I started taking dutasteride and did PCT and literally lost halph of the hair i had, including the hair on my sides and back. That massive, massive shed finally stopped a few weeks ago.
You kinda scared me when you talked about chronic telogen effuvium. Can we say thats not happening to me?
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Did you run into issues with Minoxidil or Finasteride. I went back through all of the photos. The shed was insane when I started Minoxidil but this is no longer Telogen Effluvium if it ever was.
Thyroid meds triggered Telogen Effluvium that jump started or unveiled male pattern baldness. Minoxidil shed doubles down on that shed and I’m still cycling with crazy loss.
Is the Minoxidil shed/cycle eliminating any help the Finasteride might be providing? Anyone stabilize after stopping oral minoxidil? 2 years.
I’m going to stick on topical Finasteride either way for awhile as it seems like the only tool in the fight against miniaturization?
Thyroid meds triggered Telogen Effluvium that jump started or unveiled male pattern baldness. Minoxidil shed doubles down on that shed and I’m still cycling with crazy loss.
Is the Minoxidil shed/cycle eliminating any help the Finasteride might be providing? Anyone stabilize after stopping oral minoxidil? 2 years.
I’m going to stick on topical Finasteride either way for awhile as it seems like the only tool in the fight against miniaturization?
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What is your problem? I asked him if he takes synthroid and you dislike the post. I am trying to help him.
A 7 month shed is in the window where it probably is not chronic.
It's supposed to be 6 months but 7 months I think you will be fine, recover most of your hair. If you have the male pattern baldness gene a lot of the new hair shafts will be thinner.
Probably won't be what it was but not noticeable to others, just you.
And if you were shedding in the back and sides it was def Telogen Effluvium.
BTW taking Duta with a 3 year cycle or during PCT is insane overkill. Way too strong, way too many hormonal fluctuations. You probably suffered some sort of hormonal shock during PCT.
When did you start the Duta? What is your Nowood level? Did you roid the full three years without a break? What did you use? More info is needed.
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Anyone else notice that most of the people posting pics here who are "non responders" are not showing signs of classic male pattern baldness and instead strange diffuse thinning in non traditional male pattern baldness zones.
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Is that a traditional diffuse progression or do you think it’s something else? That’s the path I’m on.
Possibly, but there is an extremely high proportion of diffuse posters on this forum in general.
Here's another... like wtf? (not in any way insulting the member here but it's either I'm seeing self conscious teens with BDD and full heads of hair or people with extremely bizzare diffuse patterns putting pics up). This is why I think most of the people here are not responding. Hair loss is very complex and the anti antrogens will/are doing nothing for conditions like this and likely worsen them. A myriad of factors are obviously at play.
Here's another... like wtf? (not in any way insulting the member here but it's either I'm seeing self conscious teens with BDD and full heads of hair or people with extremely bizzare diffuse patterns putting pics up). This is why I think most of the people here are not responding. Hair loss is very complex and the anti antrogens will/are doing nothing for conditions like this and likely worsen them. A myriad of factors are obviously at play.
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I mentioned before that there was a genetic test to see how well you would respond to finasteride. If you have that gene present, you will be a poor responder so maybe more people have that gene than we thought. Also, there is an auto immune component to hair loss too. Basically, there is some type of inflammatory processes in the mix too. Another thing to consider is some people have natural low density and if they buzz cut their hair it might mimic diffuse thinning or if they truly are thinning it will be more obvious.
Don’t really understand what you’re getting at with your post. Yeah you can get a big shed on AR inhibitors but there are plenty of people who posted before pics before starting treatments that grew almost all their hair back. I don’t think that many people on here have telogen effluvium. Most people here are people afraid to go on AR inhibitors with male pattern baldness progressing or those who have who aren’t responding well and continue to lose hair on at inhibitors. If you’re responding well you would have no reason to be on here. I do agree there are a decent amount of people with full heads of hair and BDD tho.
People saying they’re losing 500 hairs a day tho I think are exaggerating. When my male pattern baldness started I definitely noticed an increased hair fall but the worse it got you actually notice less and less. Why? Because you have way less hair to shed. As it gets bad enough you barely notice hair shed but just notice your hair getting thinner.
People saying they’re losing 500 hairs a day tho I think are exaggerating. When my male pattern baldness started I definitely noticed an increased hair fall but the worse it got you actually notice less and less. Why? Because you have way less hair to shed. As it gets bad enough you barely notice hair shed but just notice your hair getting thinner.
I've actually seen a lot more posts of people who are taking the meds and shedding devastating amounts of hair they are not recovering. Obviously this forum is the vocal minority, but the prospect in itself is frightening.
I originally considered minoxidil and finasteride after beginning to shed after steroid use and prolonged fasting, but after educating myself a little bit and also reading the posts on here I'll be staying the f*** away. Especially since I already perpetuated a shedding cycle. I can lose 70 hairs easily with a vigorous scalp massage and wash in the shower since the day the shedding began in June (which was zero before). I can definitely believe the people claiming 500 plus hairs when further sheds with minoxidil and finasteride are added to the mix like gasoline to fire. Really depends on how much you tamper with your hair. If I sat around all day rubbing my head god knows how many would fall. It just sounds like you never experienced Telogen Effluvium. It comes on swift and violently. Each trigger you add will only multiply the effects and duration exponentially.
Is there a name for the test? I'd ask my derm in my upcoming apt, but she seems to be a moron. I only got shafted with her because she was the first available.
Someone posted this pic of Kyle Walker earlier with an article stating he has Telogen Effluvium.
A norwood zero hairline with some weird *** cross patterned thinning above.
My hairline has not been touched by this but I notice some slight thinning in the same area, maybe 10% of his thinning but I only started in June.
A norwood zero hairline with some weird *** cross patterned thinning above.
My hairline has not been touched by this but I notice some slight thinning in the same area, maybe 10% of his thinning but I only started in June.
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Nah I’ve experienced the worst shed imaginable and scalp inflammation after starting finasteride and minoxidil. I literally lost a patch of hair on my hairline over an inch in diameter. And it wasn’t alopecia areata. I had severe irritation. This was 5 years ago. What caused it? No idea to this day. Went to dermatologists and they had no clue either. I lost over half my hair within months. Was this male pattern baldness? No. But it wasn’t a diffuse pattern like you’re talking about. That’s male pattern loss.
Thats def male pattern baldness bro
I don't understand your post or the fact that you think you are qualified to make a diagnosis. I mean no offense by saying that.
Diffuse loss can be male pattern baldness or Telogen Effluvium. Not sure what you mean.
This was Walker's hair last season. This is not the progression or pattern of male pattern baldness.
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You could tell Kyle Walker has been thinning for years. His density was going to sh*t dude. He has that weird *** curly frizzy hair that hides baldness/makes it less apparent from a distance but clearly it accelerated. Is it possible he has other things causing the loss? Yes. But looks like aggressive male pattern loss is part to blame at least. But you’re right I’m not a doctor and it is just pictures so idk.
And for real it sucked. But yeah that patch grew back for the most part (still didn’t completely recover and the hair is kinda damaged there). But I am still losing hair on dutasteride. I care less about hair than I used to tho. Sucks real bad losing it at 20. 25 now, and got bigger sh*t going on so care less. Hair looks better than anyone else I know who started losing at my age tho. Still have no crown bald spot or anything. Just some diffusing all over, worse at hairline. Have thinning on the sides and back too. I just cut it pretty short tho with a fade and keep the top like 1.5inches isn’t crazy noticeable unless under bright light. Hair looks like shet if longer tho so gotta get frequent cuts. Care more about lifting/how my body looks now tho. Really not much else I can do for my hair.
Yeah I'm 40 and I still care even though I'm still rocking a pretty good good head of hair. I used to model for a high end agency and developed a pretty boy complex. The thought of going slick bald terrifies me. My woman would hate it too.
Which makes it more killer for me though because I juice and I live in the gym. I've been a bb for years and I know I've reached the point where I either go dad bod or go bald, a choice I can't say I'm crazy about. Probably makes me sound like a flake and a douche but it is what it is. Mid life crisis impending. The other options like SMP and hair systems don't exactly seem that appealing though I've seen them look good.
Not desperate enough to go on finasteride though because I think it will make matters worse and I value my dick more than my hair or my muscles.