reality check, just some introspection about baldness

[Exodus2011]

As a 21 year old norwood 6 it is impossible to "just accept it". I'd say the most one can do in this situation is "deal with it".

I mean at the end of the day at least it isn't life threatening. Hair loss is out there, and we just had to be the ones to experience it. We got the **** end of the stick. Someone always does, there is a reason why those words exist (**** end of the stick).

Meh, no matter what happens really, there is no such thing as complete and utter suffering, a hell if you will. I mean i feel like **** a lot about baldness, but honestly sitting there thinking about it makes it worse. I eventually just get bored and distract myself with a movie or something.

if one feels miserable enough, then one can commit suicide, which ends their pain. I think deep down we are not at the point of true depression cuz we wud kill ourselves. I think when there is no pleasure left in life, then that is when someone kills themselves. so logically we still do FEEL some sort of pleasure, otherwise we would end our lives

so it is either, kill yourself and end your pain, or live with the pain and still have some pleasure. either way, there is no "hell". this makes me feel much better about things.

i think i am doing the latter there. i feel bad a lot but honestly experiencing the lows of baldness induced misery makes the highs more pleasurable

(of course i havent mentioned the primal will to live/ fear of death)

idk, just shooting the **** about baldness, and the meaning of suffering in life.

you low norwoods probably wont reply to this but the high norwoods will more likely know these thoughts. at a certain point you just "overdose" if you will on the misery of it. thats the point where i have a panic attack and it gives me sort of a reality check

and of course this is the reason why i smoke weed as well. it makes me more aware of THE WAY THINGS ARE, in contrast to MY FEELINGS ABOUT THE WAY THINGS ARE. distances you from the ego in a sense.

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i guess what i'm trying to say is, i hope you guys are mainly just venting here and you guys seem more miserable here than you actually are. i feel really bad about being a bald young man, but it is just LOOKS at the end of the day. captainforehead is right, we at least can be thankful our life is not in danger

of course we are human and we will still have our times of getting miserable, even with this knowledge in mind. i mean its logical to get depressed about baldness, you are becoming uglier. and this reduces the attractiveness of potential mates and lowers your status. its cold hard darwinian science

thats the real "cure" for hair loss, spirituality, not some stupid compensation attempts that are slaves to primal psychology of getting laid and getting paid (haha thanks kanye for that one).

 

[hellouser]

i guess what i'm trying to say is, i hope you guys are mainly just venting here and you guys seem more miserable here than you actually are. i feel really bad about being a bald young man, but it is just LOOKS at the end of the day. captainforehead is right, we at least can be thankful our life is not in danger

Quality of life vs. quantity. Think of it this way;

YOU are convicted of murder and have a choice of either life in a jail cell without parole OR you can pick the death sentence. Which do you chose? Do you stay alive for 50+ years and stuck in a cell or get it over with and just ask to be killed off?

So now you need to make the connection; yeah, our lives aren't in danger. So what? We're just 'blessed' to live a long life and be miserable throughout? Is that really that much better?

 

[mr.patches]

I've been saying that to my friends for a long time, spirituality is the ultimate way of life.

Just look at legit Christians, not priests or pastors but actual practitioners and theologists, look at monks or how the shintos live, if you rule out spirituality then you can still ponder on morals and intellectuality.

It seems that enforcing your own belief system and individuality will eventually bring you peace, is the only way to die at ease and secure, specially if life provided the time and health to do so.

I can't understand your struggle right now but of course we all suffer from different things.

I had a rough childhood as a fat boy (again, looks) and to this day I can't get over the amount of shiit I got from the other kids. I read the graduation book from the 6th grade of school and went back to that time. It still kills me that some of those kids, men now, are doing great and won't ever experience to be cast out from groups at such young age, or being constantly ignored by girls and being ridiculed because of your looks.

Now, having the physique I could only wish for at that time, I find myself with male pattern baldness coming full circle and my self-esteem often destroyed. It's bullshiit I know, but instead of dwelling on it I was able to look elsewhere and found sense in other stuff.

So now you need to make the connection; yeah, our lives aren't in danger. So what? We're just 'blessed' to live a long life and be miserable throughout? Is that really that much better?

You missed one of the points I believe. As long as you still find pleasures, as minimal as they seem then it's worth the patience. If you are a 100% miserable and locked in a literal/metaphorical cell with absolutely nothing to look forward:
a. You depend on help and will.
b. If a. is not possible, then yeah I guess you're doomed.

 

[TinSoldier]

There is no doubt about it.. hair loss especially at a young age is tough and unfair. But these days, with a shaved head looming, I'm trying to look at it as a blessing in disguise...trying to at least see SOME positive. I feel like I'm going to have to really try a lot harder now to be a better person and better at what I achieve than the guy next to me with hair/better looks. And I'd like to think down the line if I meet the love of my life, it'll be with someone who loves me because of my strengths, not just looks.

It does blow though, I think if I had hair I would have had a more confident, happy and successful 20s. But that's a pretty stupid reason to get depressed during the prime of your life. Here's to a great 30's as a kickass bald dude.

I also want to add a REALLY important point.. you are unhappy about hairloss because it means you are less attractive and thus less able to obtain the attractive women you dream about. Well you can't do much about the hairloss.. what you CAN control is how much importance you place on idolising a women's physical characteristics. This year I decided to be more open about who I dated. I ended up seeing a girl who was below a physical attractiveness I would have normally aimed for, but I gave it a go because she was cool. And honestly I had some of the best physical relationship with this girl than any "hot" girl I'd ever been with. I became more attracted to her than most girls I've been with. Lower your standards for physical beauty and open yourself up to finding amazing girls you might have looked past when you were that "stud" with hair.

I also recently read a stat that apparently about 3% of men have a dick under 3 inches. That sounds like a similar percentage to guys who bald badly under 30. I know who I'd rather be!

 

[doublebatman]

There is no doubt about it.. hair loss especially at a young age is tough and unfair. But these days, with a shaved head looming, I'm trying to look at it as a blessing in disguise...trying to at least see SOME positive. I feel like I'm going to have to really try a lot harder now to be a better person and better at what I achieve than the guy next to me with hair/better looks. And I'd like to think down the line if I meet the love of my life, it'll be with someone who loves me because of my strengths, not just looks.

It does blow though, I think if I had hair I would have had a more confident, happy and successful 20s. But that's a pretty stupid reason to get depressed during the prime of your life. Here's to a great 30's as a kickass bald dude.

I also want to add a REALLY important point.. you are unhappy about hairloss because it means you are less attractive and thus less able to obtain the attractive women you dream about. Well you can't do much about the hairloss.. what you CAN control is how much importance you place on idolising a women's physical characteristics. This year I decided to be more open about who I dated. I ended up seeing a girl who was below a physical attractiveness I would have normally aimed for, but I gave it a go because she was cool. And honestly I had some of the best physical relationship with this girl than any "hot" girl I'd ever been with. I became more attracted to her than most girls I've been with. Lower your standards for physical beauty and open yourself up to finding amazing girls you might have looked past when you were that "stud" with hair.

I also recently read a stat that apparently about 3% of men have a dick under 3 inches. That sounds like a similar percentage to guys who bald badly under 30. I know who I'd rather be!

Micropenis would be worse than hair loss in my book. That said, I'd happily lose an inch or so for a NW1

 

[lkm370]

Every stage of my life growing up was hell and baldness is just another phase of it. I was born extremely poor when I was young and was always the worst dressed kid in class in elementary school. Then I got to middle school and I was the shortest kid there, then I got to high school and finally grew to 5'11 but developed severe acne. In every stage of my life, some bull**** always came up to derail any possible social progress I could make. Then finally, after high school, my acne went away and for 2 years of my life I was actually a good looking guy who was finally able to just look normal and make friends and get laid. Then of course ****ing hair loss begins at 22. I had 2 golden years (20-22) where I had a ton of fun, made friends, got laid because of my looks and now its all gone.

That **** is the worst. When you had it and then It gets taken away from you.

 

[JimmyJones]

There is no doubt about it.. hair loss especially at a young age is tough and unfair. But these days, with a shaved head looming, I'm trying to look at it as a blessing in disguise...trying to at least see SOME positive. I feel like I'm going to have to really try a lot harder now to be a better person and better at what I achieve than the guy next to me with hair/better looks. And I'd like to think down the line if I meet the love of my life, it'll be with someone who loves me because of my strengths, not just looks.

It does blow though, I think if I had hair I would have had a more confident, happy and successful 20s. But that's a pretty stupid reason to get depressed during the prime of your life. Here's to a great 30's as a kickass bald dude.

I also want to add a REALLY important point.. you are unhappy about hairloss because it means you are less attractive and thus less able to obtain the attractive women you dream about. Well you can't do much about the hairloss.. what you CAN control is how much importance you place on idolising a women's physical characteristics. This year I decided to be more open about who I dated. I ended up seeing a girl who was below a physical attractiveness I would have normally aimed for, but I gave it a go because she was cool. And honestly I had some of the best physical relationship with this girl than any "hot" girl I'd ever been with. I became more attracted to her than most girls I've been with. Lower your standards for physical beauty and open yourself up to finding amazing girls you might have looked past when you were that "stud" with hair.

I also recently read a stat that apparently about 3% of men have a dick under 3 inches. That sounds like a similar percentage to guys who bald badly under 30. I know who I'd rather be!

Lower my standards? NEVER! Would rather die.

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Every stage of my life growing up was hell and baldness is just another phase of it. I was born extremely poor when I was young and was always the worst dressed kid in class in elementary school. Then I got to middle school and I was the shortest kid there, then I got to high school and finally grew to 5'11 but developed severe acne. In every stage of my life, some bull**** always came up to derail any possible social progress I could make. Then finally, after high school, my acne went away and for 2 years of my life I was actually a good looking guy who was finally able to just look normal and make friends and get laid. Then of course ****ing hair loss begins at 22. I had 2 golden years (20-22) where I had a ton of fun, made friends, got laid because of my looks and now its all gone.

That **** is the worst. When you had it and then It gets taken away from you.

Could not agree more. Ignorance is bliss. When you experience something amazing and it is taken from you it truly is a worse feeling than never having it in the first place.

 

[hellouser]

I also want to add a REALLY important point.. you are unhappy about hairloss because it means you are less attractive and thus less able to obtain the attractive women you dream about.

Wrong. Disrespect for bald men is not limited to dating. Society as a whole has little respect for bald men in all areas of life. Let me put it this way:

Imagine a scenario where 2 identical twins go in for a job interview. Both have the same education, same grades, same work experience, same competence and both perform at the interview exactly the same way. The employer can only chose one of them. However, one of the guys is bald.

I think we all know how to story ends.

 

[Agustin Araujo]

Wrong. Disrespect for bald men is not limited to dating. Society as a whole has little respect for bald men in all areas of life. Let me put it this way:

Imagine a scenario where 2 identical twins go in for a job interview. Both have the same education, same grades, same work experience, same competence and both perform at the interview exactly the same way. The employer can only chose one of them. However, one of the guys is bald.

I think we all know how to story ends.

This is actually true. A person with a full head of hair is actually more likely to get hired than someone with alopecia, even if the person with hair loss is more qualified. Same goes with height, looks, weight, and everything else about a person's appearance.

 

[Fena2000]

This is actually true. A person with a full head of hair is actually more likely to get hired than someone with alopecia, even if the person with hair loss is more qualified. Same goes with height, looks, weight, and everything else about a person's appearance.

Totally true! Even babies like pretty faces, and they weren't influenced by society yet!

 

[TinSoldier]

This forum is more poisonousness than hairloss meds.

 

[nyjrb]

The only people who find this forum "poisonous" are the NW1 to 2.5 in denial about how horrible their life as a bald man will be.

^True. My fear of going bald has increased immensely by hearing about all of these horror stories. I'm not looking forward to being a "bald man" at all. I'm just hoping my hair loss would halt for a long time.

 

[hellouser]

^True. My fear of going bald has increased immensely by hearing about all of these horror stories. I'm not looking forward to being a "bald man" at all. I'm just hoping my hair loss would halt for a long time.

They're not horror stories. It's real life. Apparently the real world is some kind of fantasy land according to the privileged with hair... but guys like me, Fred and many others know better.

 

[mr.patches]

The only people who find this forum "poisonous" are the NW1 to 2.5 in denial about how horrible their life as a bald man will be.

Why people are using poisonous to describe everything these days. I thought this thread was one of the most uplifting and down to earth recently. It seems everyone is still swalling those blue pills, courtesy of the media.

 

[Lollerme]

The only people who find this forum "poisonous" are the NW1 to 2.5 in denial about how horrible their life as a bald man will be.

crybaby

 

[CaptainForehead]

This is actually true. A person with a full head of hair is actually more likely to get hired than someone with alopecia, even if the person with hair loss is more qualified. Same goes with height, looks, weight, and everything else about a person's appearance.

Um depends on the level of qualification. Looks can only do so much. If a baldite is only marginally better than the NW2, then yes, your claim is true. But Google/Wallstreet are not going to hire NW2 just because they have hair.

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We're just 'blessed' to live a long life and be miserable throughout? Is that really that much better?

You dont need to be miserable.
Good food, movies, shows, music, p**rn, books, travel; surely these make life enjoyable?

 

[Lollerme]

Man, what's your problem with me really? Calling a hair loss sufferer a crybaby on a hair loss forum, really?

Let's see who the crybaby is one you get past NW3. As we usually say on this forum: karma is a b**ch.

Because every single post from you is self pity, shame on me, boohoooo and fvck girls who are shallow. It's always the same bs.
I won't be crying when I become a NW3 because I'll be a senior citizen by then

 

[uncomfortable man]

crybaby

Douche bag.