You talked to a hot girl... Bruh you should have fucked her right in the *** the moment she opened her mouth. Now you are in the friendzone. Send an angry email to her father!
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You talked to a hot girl... Bruh you should have fucked her right in the *** the moment she opened her mouth. Now you are in the friendzone. Send an angry email to her father!
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Yes some years ago I would probably have agreed with you.
The girl we are talking about is a very very nice girl. Not just nice but also an absolute 9/10 when it comes to looks, yet still very humble and never arrogant.
Here is the thing, girls like that get messages like that ALL THE TIME. Us men think (rational as we are), I give her something (a compliment and an offer to connect) and therefor I deserve something in return.
No...
She doesn't owe him anything. His compliment is nothing but air. Nothing more than just a bribe to get into her pants and she knows this. Women (especially attractive, intelligent ones with a healthy self-esteem) are programmed to see through our bullshit because they encounter it on a daily basis.
Why would she reply to all these guys? There is no reason for it. She just ignores it and hopes that the guy gets the message (which every guy who has respect for himself, and for women should).
Even if she would reply, it will probably only cause more problems. A guy might not accept the rejection and might start asking why or act angry towards her. Best for her to spare herself all this drama and just ignore him.
That is my opinion at least.
If I write a random girl a message, of course she doesnt owe me anything. But I think it's rude if she doesnt say anything when the I asked something politely. If a girl doesnt even answer, one can think everything ( eg did she even read it? Is she busy?) and waits like sh*t for an answer which is never coming. Ofc its more likely that she is just not interested. Maybe its just me, but I hate uncertainty. It's the worst.
Most women also expect men to make the first step. But they cant even reply to a simple question if the man actually had the guts to make the first step?
On the other hand I can really understand the girl if she encountered many stupid guys who cant handle a rejections. This is a difficult topic, cause u cant know what the other person is thinking and what kind of a person he/she is.
If a girl didnt write back, i just left her alone. But it would be way nicer for me if she actually replied and said she is not interested.
My cousin had a friend I was interested into. I said that she is cute and all the basic stuff. She said thanks with a smiley face and then never replied. I then asked my cousin (who gave me her number) whats going and if she could ask her how the conversation is going btwn us. She then said she is not interested. Sorry, but this is rude af imo. I just stopped writing her and deleted her number. No big deal. But a very shitty experience for me with women.
The real issue is these girls showing off the private creepy messages they get, such an obnoxious act many 'Facebook' girls do nowadays, they pretend the attention they get derange them while the truth is they secretly crave it, while they are at it they will get bonus points for showing off how desired they are and for mocking an indeed creepy guy but whose creepiness really is only the mirror of his desperation and the ever degrading status of men in the western world.
They chose not to answer, could have been a respectable choice indeed, but the moment they decide to display their refusal to the world, it invalidates the respectable part of that choice. If you have any dignity, the ignorance you inflict on someone should always be kept to yourself, otherwise, you're not really ignoring anyone anymore, you're now trying to lift your social status by stepping on someone's misery, wasn't the humiliation of being ignored repeatedly not enough that you needed the laughs of a crowd? How vain one can be.
Now, watch these girls that lived for their own image reaching their thirties, their freshness quickly leaving their bodies. The attention that was once plenty, rarefies, fresher girls join the working place and they steal the attention, so more efforts are made to hang on something that is destined to rot, skirts are shorter, make up is heavier, but the legs are ugly, and the wrinkles are getting deeper. Eventually, they reach forty and even the ugliest man in the room is turning away. Now the real fun begins, instead of stepping to reason and stop focusing on their ego and image, these women deep further into it, their attempts to get attention, à la Madonna, are getting more desperate and the denials by men who became valuable with time are getting harsher.
The tables of desperation really turn don't they. But at least the desperation of even the creepiest guy, really is just the result of biology, it's hard to fight off your own hormones, the rush a man can feel to achieve sex can be more intense than the crave a drug addict has for a heroine dose. So yeah it's pitiful to see men reaching their lowest, but understandable. Women on the other hand... they will reach the same desperation because of their egos not because of a priapism like boner they can't ignore, they pass a lifetime feeding their images in self adoration, knowing really well their beauty is not going to last. What a dumb investment, much less understandable.
They chose not to answer, could have been a respectable choice indeed, but the moment they decide to display their refusal to the world, it invalidates the respectable part of that choice. If you have any dignity, the ignorance you inflict on someone should always be kept to yourself, otherwise, you're not really ignoring anyone anymore, you're now trying to lift your social status by stepping on someone's misery, wasn't the humiliation of being ignored repeatedly not enough that you needed the laughs of a crowd? How vain one can be.
Now, watch these girls that lived for their own image reaching their thirties, their freshness quickly leaving their bodies. The attention that was once plenty, rarefies, fresher girls join the working place and they steal the attention, so more efforts are made to hang on something that is destined to rot, skirts are shorter, make up is heavier, but the legs are ugly, and the wrinkles are getting deeper. Eventually, they reach forty and even the ugliest man in the room is turning away. Now the real fun begins, instead of stepping to reason and stop focusing on their ego and image, these women deep further into it, their attempts to get attention, à la Madonna, are getting more desperate and the denials by men who became valuable with time are getting harsher.
The tables of desperation really turn don't they. But at least the desperation of even the creepiest guy, really is just the result of biology, it's hard to fight off your own hormones, the rush a man can feel to achieve sex can be more intense than the crave a drug addict has for a heroine dose. So yeah it's pitiful to see men reaching their lowest, but understandable. Women on the other hand... they will reach the same desperation because of their egos not because of a priapism like boner they can't ignore, they pass a lifetime feeding their images in self adoration, knowing really well their beauty is not going to last. What a dumb investment, much less understandable.
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Not really their are females who do this to hot men also--and it would be creepy to them as well.
I have a male friend who was stalked for several years by a woman who he only fucked a few times.
She even stalked his GF later on.
And it was a woman he met off internet who he barely knew.
So No its not unreasonable to think a guy like that or a woman who is repeatedly Texting you--a stranger--is not worthy of respect they don't even respect themselves. So share the messages as warning sign of how unstable people men/women can be.
very nice analysis!!!
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Uhm i hate to break this to you because that is a lovely fantasy you have going but I am 45--I went on Tinder for 4 days barely played with it and got 72 matches of good looking/looks matched, single, professional men my age and within 10 years.
So I know it is this 'wet dream' angry frustrated men seem to have that women over 30 are dead to all men--But reality not so much.
I still get the multiple messages from same guy like this girl got--it's not about the women or person they are attracted too and how 'hot' she/he is its about the man/woman being mental (and like I said it can be opposite with women doing the same sh*t to men--its called 'obsessive' regardless of gender)
I don't have any fantasy, I live and observe the real world, events that are statistically signifiant will eventually pop up that I can observe trends and patterns, you keep living in the fantasy world that Tinder is, while trying to bring up your anecdotal example as a counter argument, as if I ever pretended what I said applied to all women without exception.
Of course there is the usual psychanalyse attempt through the internet, typical and boring, supposedly one would have to be frustrated to observe social dynamics, that I repeat by definition are not absolute. Should I even respond to this? Please don't waste my time.
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Think of it from their point of view. I once asked out a really hot chick that I was really into through facebook, and she didn't answer back. When I finally confronted her about it she was at an awkward position and finally opened up that she doesn't feel the same and doesn't want to "break my heart".
When you fear a simple rejection message could really affect someone you may hesitate to respond. So I can understand why the girl may not have answered straight away.
EDIT: Never mind, my browser hadn't loaded your full message, I just saw the rest.
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I love how pretty much every one of the the top threads here right now has another argument running that overshadows the original topic. Debating immortality and overpopulation in one thread, relationships, sexism and cultural relativism in the next - even statistics and lexicology!
Maybe that's why researchers can't beat this f****r, they just can't agree on which way toilet paper rolls.
I'd probably laugh if I wasn't, you know, ... balding.
Maybe that's why researchers can't beat this f****r, they just can't agree on which way toilet paper rolls.
I'd probably laugh if I wasn't, you know, ... balding.
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I get and can agree with the overarching point you're making, but I think there is some denial in this section of the post and the use of "fresh" being rather cringey tbh.
You make it sound like once a woman hits 30, she's "old" and completely unattractive and undesirable. I don't think it's just me, but I find most attractive women are actually at their peak attractiveness between age 30 - 45 as they've lost the "baby face" that women often have up until this point. It is also not uncommon to see women who could still easily pass for being in their 20s.
I know plenty of women in their 30s who have no shortage of attention from men. Younger men? Maybe not as much, but these women don't care when there is still a horde of men their age chasing them. The thing about attractive women, is they usually work to be that way and at age 40, will be significantly more attractive than their peers who never were to start with. You also don't have to be perfect to be beautiful.
I also don't see Madonna as a good example as she has, from day one, made a career from being outrageous af.
If we're going to use celebrities as an example, here are some pictures of women all over the age of 30 who I guarantee you are in the spank banks of tons of guys from 14-30. You gonna tell me most guys would turn these women down? Well, maybe they would — as this site has proven men here often have absurd standards.
We can exclude this thread from that, though. It's not like this undoubtedly scam product is giving us much else to talk about.
Interesting, can you provide us with more information when you know more? Did you actually buy it? Thank you very much.
Whoken is right for the most part. Most women have gone to sh*t by 25 from too much partying or too much candy. Some women continue to look good well into their 40s though, and some actually improve with age. Raquel Welch was hot until she was 60. Lisa Ann got better with age, and Tiffany Amber Thiessen hit her peak in her 20s, but is still hotter than most 20 year olds.
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Jennifer Aniston, that woman aged amazingly. Late 40s and still turning heads.
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I think it depends where you live, lifestyle, genetics and economics.
Where I live the women for most part take good care of themselves via diet exercise and beauty treatments and even very subtle plastic surgery.