Receding Chin / Jaw - Worse Than Hairloss

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Pretty heavy operation, where they break your jaws and move them forwards, backwardrs or rotate them. To fit the bite, you have to wear braces before and after. There is a pretty high chance for permanent nerve damage (10-50%). If you are not completely retarded, you would never recommend this operation to a person which doesn't have functional problems or looked like this, which means future functional problems.

WOW, thats someone who needs it though. Man or woman, living like that is technically a deformity, even worse than hairloss Id say.

Luckily I was graced with a good jaw line, thats about it really.
 

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Luckily even with my problem, I have absolutely no problems with getting girls...
 

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There is at least some to be thankful for OP. While my chin recession isn't as bad, I am short, balding, chin recession, big nose, and am uncircumcised. Pretty much every thing on the checklist. The modern world hates me.
 
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retruded mandible isnt your only problem, on top of that you have narrow weak jaw line that is covered with facial fat, weak hidden cheek bones providing no support, low hyoid bone that will always give you look of double chin and more likely you have fucked teeth positioning, relation of upper set to lower one and crooked teeth
 

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I've always been extremely fortunate with the appearance of my jaw, however because of a very slight crossbite i was grinding my teeth to oblivion because they didn't fit very wellso as of recent i had to have a lower jaw surgery - a Mandibular Saggital split osteotomy.

If people don't know what they're talking about its best not respond.

OP you have a recessed lower jaw. Your relation to your midface looks fine so you would more than likely need nothing more than lower jaw surgery. The cuts are made in the Jaw and and your lower jaw is then slid forward to align with your upper teeth. If your bite is naturally already okay and your jaw can only be slid forward a few mm's it would be wise to get a genioplasty at the same time. Its not that bad. You wear braces for 10-12 months, you have the surgery, then your bite is fine tuned for another 4-6 months with braces.

The surgery itself these days is very straight forward (especially yours). Most of my swelling was gone within 12 days.

As for picking the surgeon you have to be very careful of what you read online because the surgeons names that come up on the forums, real self etc are more the case of surgeons who are good at marketing themselves online. The surgeon i used here in the UK was recommend as the best in the UK (and one of the best in Europe) by all the dentists and orthodontists when i was getting multiple opinions. I also knew of a girl who had an exxttrreemly fucked up face who had her very complicated double jaw surgery with him and the results were unbelievable. As i said though mine was pretty minor, but as jaw surgerys go so would yours. Things get complicated when you need your upper jaw to be rotated, impacted etc..
 

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Ii had to have a lower jaw surgery - a Mandibular Saggital split osteotomy.
tbh i badly need bsso, had few consultations with doctors already, do you mind sharing before and after pics and tellin story how it all went down? mb in pms?
 

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tbh i badly need bsso, had few consultations with doctors already, do you mind sharing before and after pics and tellin story how it all went down? mb in pms?

What country are you based in ? If you’re just wanting a stronger profile you also sound like a simple case.

It was literally the case of knowing who I wanted to see . I had a couple of other consultations for the sake of opinion. Then when I confirmed what was going to happen he suggested a couple of the best orthodontists to me which has actually been amazing compared to when you get braces when you’re 13 . A good ortho makes all the difference.

Put the braces on for10 ish months in my case and didn’t see my surgeon again until it was time for a checkup a few weeks before to take some moulds for my splint. All the other moulds and updates are done through the ortho and the surgeon who work together. Had the surgery. Liquid diet for a week then soft foods like pasta etc..
Turned up for surgery, followed by a stay for 1 night then home.

Still have my braces on for a couple more months.
As I said though mine was for slight functional issue. Basically lengthened one side of my jaw by a couple of mm’s and shortened the other side to bring my lower jaw around more to meet my upper teeth.

The whole process is really pretty painless and simple . Especially lower jaw surgery it’s basically like wisdom teeth removal these days with the right surgeon.

Slight numb chin at the moment but unlike what others have said that’s all it is. It doesn’t affect motor neurones so you don’t lose ability to speak / move. Permanent numbness in most practices is 1%.
 

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The whole process is really pretty painless and simple . Especially lower jaw surgery it’s basically like wisdom teeth removal these days with the right surgeon.
Well, that's complete bollox. It is painful and hard, even if you open videos on youtube about BSSO. Nothing even close to wisdom teeth removal.

It's kind of suspicious that you are so pro-surgery, since you havent even recovered yet.

Slight numb chin at the moment but unlike what others have said that’s all it is. It doesn’t affect motor neurones so you don’t lose ability to speak / move. Permanent numbness in most practices is 1%.
Also, in bunch of cases i've read and seen losing senses in chin area and lips is permanent, so its not all flowers and roses. Not sure where you pulloed 1% out of.

You got any pics before/after to share?
 

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Well, that's complete bollox. It is painful and hard, even if you open videos on youtube about BSSO. Nothing even close to wisdom teeth removal.

It's kind of suspicious that you are so pro-surgery, since you havent even recovered yet.


Also, in bunch of cases i've read and seen losing senses in chin area and lips is permanent, so its not all flowers and roses. Not sure where you pulloed 1% out of.

You got any pics before/after to share?

lol Mate you can either take the advice or not. The only reason i was commenting for the benefit of the guess work that people are throwing around here. I've just been through it. I've had my wisdom teeth out a few years back and i've had LOWER jaw surgery last month. They're really not that different. The biggest inconvenience was having to drink food for the first week which is just plain miserable.

BIMAX surgery is a complete different story that im not reporting on. I haven't had upper jaw surgery. Upper jaw surgery is a longer road to recovery with much more swelling and discomfort.

If you're literally complaining that you have a weak profile then you would be getting just lower stuff done.

The 1% figure has been told to me by seperate Ortho's when you're talking about any decent surgeon doing my specific procedure. The industry average for permanent numbness is <10%. That average includes all the maxiofacial surgery that has to be done including complex reconstructive work for car crash victims etc..

And no i would never share any images of myself online.
 
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I've had my wisdom teeth out a few years back and i've had LOWER jaw surgery last month. They're really not that different.
you are out of your mind if you compare simple shot of local anesthesia and pulling teeth with forceps to having your soft tissues cut and widened, your bones cut and broken, metal pieces inserted, soft tissue sewed and nerves stretched.

recovery time from pulling teeth is 3-7 days, recovery from bsso 1-6 months.

And no i would never share any images of myself online.
cope
 

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you are out of your mind if you compare simple shot of local anesthesia and pulling teeth with forceps to having your soft tissues cut and widened, your bones cut and broken, metal pieces inserted, soft tissue sewed and nerves stretched.

recovery time from pulling teeth is 3-7 days, recovery from bsso 1-6 months.


cope

A ton of wisdom teeth removal involves general aesthetic and opening of the gum / drilling out the root from the bone etc.. Not everyone has a straight pull procedure.

I love how you have no idea what you're talking about yet you're being dictatorial to someone who has literally just had both of these procedures and been through the process.

If that is you in your avatar and you think you're complaining about having a weak profile, then you're deluded.
 

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A ton of wisdom teeth removal involves general aesthetic and opening of the gum / drilling out the root from the bone etc.. Not everyone has a straight pull procedure.

I love how you have no idea what you're talking about yet you're being dictatorial to someone who has literally just had both of these procedures and been through the process.

If that is you in your avatar and you think you're complaining about having a weak profile, then you're deluded.
did your wisdom teeth require general anesthesia and surgery?

thats my profile
 

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did your wisdom teeth require general anesthesia and surgery?

thats my profile

Yes i had general for my wisdom teeth as they were very deep rooted.

If thats your profile im guessing you have a slight underbite ? You definitely wouldn't need upper jaw done if you wanted to pursue the change.
 

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Yes i had general for my wisdom teeth as they were very deep rooted.

If thats your profile im guessing you have a slight underbite ? You definitely wouldn't need upper jaw done if you wanted to pursue the change.
well, sh*t, actually my 2 bottom widsom teeth require surgery, basically drilling of jaw bone, cutting tooth in half and then extraction, really fucked up. they told me they wont do it in one go, only as 2 separate surgeries for each tooth, 1 month recovery time, drinking watery food and sh*t. how did it go for you? top 2 widsom teeth they just pulled out with local anesthesia, was easy mode.

tbh this complication with my wisdom teeth what stopped me from going after bsso. too much pain in the ***, recovery time, bills etc.

yeah, i mean, anyone who has retruded mandible would have overbite, not underbite.
 

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well, sh*t, actually my 2 bottom widsom teeth require surgery, basically drilling of jaw bone, cutting tooth in half and then extraction, really fucked up. they told me they wont do it in one go, only as 2 separate surgeries for each tooth, 1 month recovery time, drinking watery food and sh*t. how did it go for you? top 2 widsom teeth they just pulled out with local anesthesia, was easy mode.

tbh this complication with my wisdom teeth what stopped me from going after bsso. too much pain in the ***, recovery time, bills etc.

yeah, i mean, anyone who has retruded mandible would have overbite, not underbite.

I think you’ll be surprised by your recovery. Wisdom teeth recovery was fine just a bit of a shock in the first week when I tried to each something and accidentally chomped on the wounds at the back. Weirdly only had swelling on one side, but my left side stayed swollen for 4-6 days.

Sorry meant overbite. Once you’ve had your wisdoms out you’ll feel more sure if you want to pursue jaw surgery.
 
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