Replicel Hair Loss Treatment Trial Is Set To Begin In Japan

[Drogedagh]

people keep asking questions which were answered about thousand times.

 

[paxis]

I am following almost every thread in the "New Research, Studies, and Technologies"-forum. I am here almost every day. I still never read about the trial duration? You know, sometimes it's hard to remember every single part of every single page.

Off topic:
I don't know why people nowadays always want something in exchange to give something. It are just some lines of writing for you and probably hours of reading for him. I also wasted hours of reading in this forum if not days. I got most of my knowledge without asking someone. But I don't hesitate to give information when I can. BE MORE SOCIAL!

 

[Blackber]

people keep asking questions which were answered about thousand times.

Agreed.

If we had legit answers there's no way you wouldn't know. People would be plastering the news all over the place.

 

[thomps1523]

East asians, like the japanese, have a slighly higher IQ than westerners do, on average. So it's pretty much a fact that they are smarter, on average.

Prominent researchers have collected mountains of data published by world class science journals, like elsevier, which proves this:

http://philipperushton.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/Life-History-Theory-and-Race-Differences-An-Appreciation-of-Richard-Lynn’s-Contributions-to-Science-2012-by-John-Philippe-Rushton.pdf

http://www.ttu.ee/public/m/mart-mur..._calculated_and_validated_for_108_nations.pdf

Can someone please tell me why we keep discussing replicel instead of the iq of Japan in comparison to westerners? I find this topic much more relevent to hairloss...

 

[Torin]

I don't trust any of the Replicel personnel who I have witnessed on videos LOL

Also it's weird how a none Doctor (Lee Buckler?) does most of the talking for them. Imagine if some random PR guy did all the talking for Riken instead of Dr. Tsuji.

As for Dr. Hoffman, he scoffed at the idea of a cure-like treatment coming by 2020.

Dr. McElwee, pursuing other hair related projects and despite rch-01 being at such a crucial point with developments in Japan, he's nowhere to be seen. Strange for a guy who co-discovered this method.

I hope Shiseido have a trick up their sleeve to do something with what Replicel cobbled together, but I don't know. They are after all a company who brought out a useless overpriced hair tonic a few years ago.

 

[hellouser]

damn right - people can get myopic when chasing a cure but thalidomide pretty much defines what can go wrong without regulations/processes in place. Is the FDA a bottleneck? Sure, but it is for our collective well being. If anything, perhaps they should grow the FDA in size so they can process applications faster without compromising on their mission.

You still can't check for safety if you restrict use. That's essentially the problem with the FDA.

 

[hellouser]

Exactly. Are there ways to compress the FDA timeframe? I don't know, because I'm not a research scientist, but if there are, then they should. That being said, FDA-approved drugs since the thalidomide disaster have had a very good safety track record, and the fact that some FDA-approved drugs still ended up with adverse and sometimes life-threatening effects (as some claim finasteride has, though I disagree) goes to show that even the strictest of standards can't ensure a safe profile, so making it less stringent will only invite more problematic therapies.

I'm glad hair science is progressing in other countries, but there's no way I'm going to use any of those protocols until they've gone through an FDA-like study. Hair loss is a terrible affliction, but it's not worth gambling your health on.

You'll be waiting a VERY long time then.

 

[kj6723]

Hair loss is a terrible affliction, but it's not worth gambling your health on.

I just want to mention that psychological and emotional health are just as, if not more important than physical health.

 

[what]

I've been waiting twenty years - what's another five to ten? Until then, it's the Big Three for me.

whats another 5-10 you ask? for me, its the difference between going from an entry level NW3 to NW6. Heaven to hell in 5 to 10. Hurry up you dawgs and get the damn cure!

 

[Pray The Bald Away]

whats another 5-10 you ask? for me, its the difference between going from an entry level NW3 to NW6. Heaven to hell in 5 to 10. Hurry up you dawgs and get the damn cure!

Damn! You've been here since 2003?!

 

[hellouser]

Damn! You've been here since 2003?!

And people say you wont care about baldness x number of years from now...

Yeah right.

 

[Ken1983]

Can someone please tell me why we keep discussing replicel instead of the iq of Japan in comparison to westerners? I find this topic much more relevent to hairloss...

pegasus started it

 

[hwezdarik]

If they start trials during summer and have results in 2017. Then 2018-2019 timeframe for commercialization seems very plausible .

 

[pegasus2]

What mysoginistic nonsense that completely ignores history.

The stringent FDA process was a response to the terrible deformities in babies caused by thalidomide. If you aren't familiar with that incident, study up on it, look at the pictures, try not to cry at seeing innocent little children horribly afflicted, then retract you absurd statement.

I'm sorry everyone is frustrated with safety protocols, but you'd probably eat your words if some rushed product resulted in cancer, cardiac disease, or some other life-changing or life-ending event.

Oh you poor, emotional fool. By your logic we shouldn't even have medicine, because for some poor child, somewhere, it is going to do more harm than good. Let's just ban medicine altogether, and then no child will ever be harmed by it again. Forget about all the lives that won't be saved or improved. They don't matter as long as we save a relatively small number from harm. I'm not saying we just rush out drugs for cosmetic things like hairloss, but we do need to make it less expensive and burdensome to get better treatments to market.

 

[pegasus2]

East asians, like the japanese, have a slighly higher IQ than westerners do, on average. So it's pretty much a fact that they are smarter, on average.

Prominent researchers have collected mountains of data published by world class science journals, like elsevier, which proves this:

http://philipperushton.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/Life-History-Theory-and-Race-Differences-An-Appreciation-of-Richard-Lynn’s-Contributions-to-Science-2012-by-John-Philippe-Rushton.pdf

http://www.ttu.ee/public/m/mart-mur..._calculated_and_validated_for_108_nations.pdf

Yes. I've also seen studies that show Germans and Poles have a higher average IQ than East Asians. It's not really relevant to research, as the average person in any country does not have the aptitude for scientific research. Every country has a noble class and a peasant class. What you're talking about is the IQ of the peasant class, which is meaningless in this context. The average Japanese person has an IQ five points higher than the average American. Big deal, they're still idiots. Someone with an IQ of 105 isn't much good for anything but following orders. They certainly aren't going to make any revolutionary breakthroughs. What matters is the IQ of the noble class, which judging by the historical success of the West compared to Japan, is almost certainly not higher in Japan.

 

[Ken1983]

Yes. I've also seen studies that come Germans and Poles have higher average IQ than East Asians.

That higher figure of 106 for Poland is just one data set but the true average is 92, which is much lower than japan. On some tests the japanese score as high as 113, but the average is 105. Germanys is 99, despite scoring 107 on the cattell culture fair, which is exact study you are referring to.

(source: http://www.ttu.ee/public/m/mart-mur...nifying_Construct_for_the_Social_Sciences.pdf)

The average Japanese person has an IQ five points higher than the average American. Big deal, they're still idiots. Someone with an IQ of 105 isn't much good for anything but following orders. They certainly aren't going to make any revolutionary breakthroughs. What matters is the IQ of the noble class, which judging by the historical success of the West compared to Japan, is almost certainly not higher in Japan.

The IQ range, or standard deviation is not higher amongst westerners, meaning the japanese bell curve is not a thinner shape than the western one. There is no data to support the iq range is narrower, so your argument doesn't hold up. Why are there more east asians in gifted programs if they had such a narrow range of intelligence? You need a mensa level IQ to gain entry to gifted programs, and there are more east asians in them :"For 1997, according to the Office of Civil rights (1999), 5.64% of the total enrollment was enrolled in gifted programs- 9.41% of Asians, 6.79% of White"

The visual spatial difference is more significant than 5 IQ points though. its 10 points i believe.

 

[NAVI]

Just for my information, can i just not still get on propecia and delay it further, is replicel a replacement for finasteride,as in , does it inhibit DHT?or is it jus something to be used in addition to finasteride?

 

[Pray The Bald Away]

Just for my information, can i just not still get on propecia and delay it further, is replicel a replacement for finasteride,as in , does it inhibit DHT?or is it jus something to be used in addition to finasteride?

It essentially makes hair follicles "DHT proof".

 

[Hubris]

Let's not get into arguments about race/ethnicity/nationality and IQ. It's really quite irrelevant.

 

[Ken1983]

"IQ of the noble class" - you are definitely an imbecile.

I work with Japanese people every day, they are no smarter than Americans. You are making assumptions based on silly things you read and you are trying to draw parallels in order to sound smart (but you don't).

no the data was published in elsevier (a world class science journal), hardly 'silly' really.

Any way im done arguing with pegasus, sorry everyone.