Replicel Is On Fire Lately — Data In Feb.

[That Guy]

Remember when some unnamed users were freaking the f*** out about why some had a decrease and the sane people were like "Just relax, it could be for any number of variables."?

Turns out it's because of a shipping delay on some of the cells.

Lol

 

[MrV88]

İf they have the cure why doesn't the guy have a head full of hairs? (Presentation guy)

 

[Christian Miller]

A) That guy's accent is hilllarious.
B) It's not mouses, it's mice, betch.
C) No hair regeneration, just restoration for the miniaturized ones.
D) Allready compllaining about the price?
Killl yoursellves allready, betches.

PS. My post is meant to be sarcastic.

 

[Christian Miller]

İf they have the cure why doesn't the guy have a head full of hairs? (Presentation guy)

Did he claim they have an awesome cure in their hands?
Nope.
The most this treatment can do is restoration (from thinning to terminal) of miniaturized hair follicles and the results in this non-efficacy-evaluation trial weren't that impressive.

 

[d3nt3dsh0v3l]

I know male pattern baldness is mainly a middle class white man problem, and they are desperate so they are very ripe for price gouging but this is going to be very expensive. If your culturing cells id say your talking 100 grand or more for this.
id rather have a drug/topical just anything that helps me simply keep my current hair so I dont need to spend 100 grand and go through some grand procedure like this

LMFAO! 100g!

Brb running clinical trials with 300 people on 100g procedure.

But in all seriousness, I understand your concern that it might be out of reach, but from a business perspective this doesn't make sense. Think about it, how many people experience baldness? Like 1/2 males, some proportion of females. Now, that's a lot of people. You want to be careful not to shrink your own market by setting the price too high, you see? You want the price as high as possible in order to make the best profit, but you also need to realize that taking a little money from a LOT of people will make you extremely wealthy as well. In fact, the latter is the leading strategy for a billion dollar company. It is much easier to take a reasonable amount of money from hundreds of millions than try to take a 100g from a few million :^)

Also from the video, "We have a tattoo mark, to make sure we go back to the same region for monitoring and taking photos." Mfw I came. I'm pretty excited for the pictures to be honest. Tired of this shitty lighting, angle, and hair grown out bullshit.

 

[d3nt3dsh0v3l]

İf they have the cure why doesn't the guy have a head full of hairs? (Presentation guy)

Idk mang. If I were a middle aged, already married, have-been-balding-for-over-a-decade fat manager in a large company...I'm not sure I'd be dying to play the guinea pig when safety and efficacy trials are ongoing on an experimental procedure. Priorities and cost-benefit analysis wise that doesn't make sense. Does that look like a man who has ever touched the big 3? Besides, they aren't claiming regrowth on slick areas to begin with, and the dude is obviously slick up top. Lol. But that's just my take.

 

[H]

That's not evil, that's just business. Not to mention that even $10k is extremely fair for what you would get. Just a decent hair transplant that gives the illusion of density already costs $20k+

If they are going to charge 10 grand for maybe ~the results they have released and someone comes out with a full blown regrowth cure it would be for multimillionairs only who probably don't even give a sh*t about hair loss.. bad market strategy. If follica would do half of what people have been saying it will do itd be 150g relative to what you've proposed there's no way.

 

[Christian Miller]

Why are you, people, obsessing over pricing?
They said every session is gonna cost around 1,000$.
Why are you twisting it all around and ignoring the facts?
Calm down, fellows.

 

[Crespo88]

Price does not matter. I'm a millionaire but even if I was not I would rob a bank to get the money. Just give us the f*cking cure.

 

[H]

Why are you, people, obsessing over pricing?
They said every session is gonna cost around 1,000$.
Why are you twisting it all around and ignoring the facts?
Calm down, fellows.

He started it...

 

[Endmymisery]

Price does not matter. I'm a millionaire but even if I was not I would rob a bank to get the money. Just give us the f*cking cure.

Lol how have you made your fortune? If what you're saying is true of course

 

[Kev123]

If they were really evil, they would start at a very high amount, 10K for example, then when everyone who's willing to pay that much would have gotten the treatment, they would lower it to, say, 5K, and treat everyone willing to pay that amount, and so on until it comes down to a price where they can still generate a profit but that would be within reach of the vast majority, probably around 1K, so as to reach as many people as possible.

Hopefully they'll stick to their original 1K projection.

They'd probably make more money at $1k+.

Using small single digit and triple digit numbers to keep it simple...

If the procedure costs $10k and 5 people get it = $50k.

If the procedure costs $1.5k and 100 people get it = $150k.

Why am I using a number of customers for the $1.5k that is 20x more than the $10k group? Well I think it's realistic to get that many more customers, but I am just throwing numbers around here.

$10k isn't a doable number for just anyone. $1.5k is doable for most people who are above poverty level. Now imagine the same customers who paid $1.5k, coming back for more because they liked the results and want more results, BUT the people who paid $10k for their results (also good results) would be more reluctant to pay $10k again so quickly. Because how many spare $10k's do people have (+ trip to Japan, hotel, food, transportation)?

At a more affordable price you would have more customers and more returning customers faster. At the price of a good used car of $10k, you'll have less customers and less returning customers.

In the $1.5k group you are looking at all kinds of age groups being targeted. In $10k group you are looking at people with established salaries with a spare $10k, possibly older people with more advanced hair loss. You price it right, you have younger people getting the treatment, with NW3, NW2's turning back to NW1-0 (possibly?) your product looks better. What if at $10k you get NW7's and NW6's with money going over there and the results are not favorable? Your product looks mediocre and suffers through word of mouth in forums and blogs and youtube video reviews.

 

[Endmymisery]

By the way guys, if this treatment is legit, wouldn't it be a cure for nw2-3, get this treatment and a transplant to get back to nw1, this is a functional cure no? And is there any chance for shiseido to release it in 2018?

 

[gimmiehairorgimmiedeath]

By the way guys, if this treatment is legit, wouldn't it be a cure for nw2-3, get this treatment and a transplant to get back to nw1, this is a functional cure no? And is there any chance for shiseido to release it in 2018?

If it halts native loss in it's tracks by immunizing follicles then it is a preventative cure. Guys with a family history of hair loss will be lining up around the block to get these injections before the male pattern baldness demon hits them.

Guys with a thinning crown/midscalp/receding hairline will get it to halt the loss (and get that unspecified % of thickening) then they are free to load up on new hair via hair transplant risk free. It'll still be an illusion obviously, but the top hair transplant docs will have business lined up forever, all of a sudden you don't have to plan long term and worry about native hair falling out behind/around the hair transplant.

Of course this all rides on currently unknown results. We have to see a lot more data and really, observe results over the course of years once it hits the market and guys are getting it done. Hence why I still think it'll be 10-15 years before a mainstream easily accessible replacement for finasteride even if this stuff gets released in Japan next year.

 

[br1]

Seems that the mystery is solved concerning the patients who had a decrease in hair density:

Shipping of cells took to long for those patients.. I really thought that they were always talking about Georgia in the USA... but it's Georgia in Europe lol.

From my understanding, these 2 guys DID NOT RESPOND because of the delivery delay. And so, they were NOT included in the study results (as they did not fulfill the study's protocol).

So, no, they did not solve the question on the differences observed in the trial.

 

[Kev123]

Did he claim they have an awesome cure in their hands?
Nope.
The most this treatment can do is restoration (from thinning to terminal) of miniaturized hair follicles and the results in this non-efficacy-evaluation trial weren't that impressive.

If it does that i'd be glad.

 

[Christian Miller]

If it does that i'd be glad.

The thing is, does it last forever and, if not, is desensitization a probability?

 

[hairblues]

The thing is, does it last forever and, if not, is desensitization a probability?

Seriously?

Who the f*** knows.

LOL

 

[Christian Miller]

Seriously?

Who the f*** knows.

LOL

Nobody.
Not even Replicel and Shiseido.
I'm just saying it's too early to board on the ship of perpetual excitement.
It will be great, if any of the treatments in the pipeline comes out in the near future.
But we should not rest on hope and wishful thinking.

 

[MrV88]

Just mantaining? Didn't the Replicel CEO just stated that this is also regrowing new hair? Everybody goes crazy about something that ain't even available. The only important thing is what Shiseido will promise and deliver and not what Replicel says.