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2bald2young

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Despite his 10 green bars, Fred is the most unhelpful member of HTL. His out of date minoxidil advises are all he has to offer. He is a neddy, self-absorbed duche who compesates his social unadjustment by bullying people on gourmetstylewellness.com. He brought down the only thread that has proven that hair can be regrown without finasteride or minoxidil. Dozens of members fled gourmetstylewellness.com, including casperz who has done more for this community than fred ever will.

Its funny how Fred and his pack are always complaining how poorly society treats them, while constantly bullying other members of gourmetstylewellness.com.

They probably didn't fled gourmetstylewellness.com, but gave up on the idea that there ever will be a cure quick. Also I am sorry to say this but the only thing that happens in gourmetstylewellness.com is people arguing about the same old things. What I always see is that a nw2 or nw3 guy always tell a higher Norwood that they are obsessed with women or it is there attitude. I ain't gonna b**ch about the truth, but what the majority here doesn't realise is that almost all the women in their 20's will reject bald men. However I got to agree that Fred misuses the rep system but most people here really only say bs. Most of the times I don't bother if I don't agree with the post but there are some times I really don't like/agree with the post.
 
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thank you for the advices guys,

seeing that I have hardly given any negative reviews , I don't think that ignoring people would be necessary.

sometimes what you write in your positive reviews just cannot be posted at the risk of being taken for a troll , as is explained below

example : there's one user on this forum whose avatar I found quite funny.

I couldn't reply to his post just by saying "nice avatar" could I ?

This might have been misinterpreted , and would have made me look like the troll whom's trying to sink the thread where I would have gotten it posted.
 

maher

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They probably didn't fled gourmetstylewellness.com, but gave up on the idea that there ever will be a cure quick. Also I am sorry to say this but the only thing that happens in gourmetstylewellness.com is people arguing about the same old things. What I always see is that a nw2 or nw3 guy always tell a higher Norwood that they are obsessed with women or it is there attitude. I ain't gonna b**ch about the truth, but what the majority here doesn't realise is that almost all the women in their 20's will reject bald men. However I got to agree that Fred misuses the rep system but most people here really only say bs. Most of the times I don't bother if I don't agree with the post but there are some times I really don't like/agree with the post.

Thats exactly why they fled. They openly stated why they're giving up on gourmetstylewellness.com. Most of those guys were the driving force of this forum. And what do we have now? one group of dudes, bitching they cant get laid and the other group- bullying everyone thats tries to think outside the box.
 

2bald2young

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Even the egyptians couldn't cure baldness, so Yeah I don't think we can found a cure BUT that doesn't mean we have to argue about everything. People thing that Nofap can save your hair? Instead of screaming it is bs let them try it so we can see of it really works and than we can finally confirm if it really is bs or not. Also Instead of saying to nw5 guys they are complaining too much, realise that you can't feel how they feel if you are still a nw2. My point here is that this is a support forum and not an argue forum.
 

Notcoolanymore

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The reputation system does have its' flaws. Somebody new to the forum could see somebody with 10 green bars and think "this guy really knows his stuff about hair loss". That isn't always the case. Some guys with a great rep don't earn it by giving good advice. Many earn it in the Impact of Hair Loss section and we all know what goes on there. I usually only give negative rep if somebody is spreading bad information. I don't have a problem with guys thinking outside the box and trying new things, but when they come on here and claim that something works and provide absolutely zero proof, that is when I have a problem. I personally don't have a problem with hairchaser. I get why people might think he is shill because he has reminded us many times of the products he is using. To his credit though, he has provided a number of pics, and even started a blog documenting his progress.

We all just need to remember how much of an impact we may have on somebody coming here for information. Many people may come here and read the NOFAP thread or the many finasteride Sides threads and waste time using ineffective methods of treating their hair loss. When it comes to hair loss, wasting time is one of the worst things you can do.
 

Notcoolanymore

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I understand now that I was a bit reckless, I got really excited cuz of the results I got and so I talked about it heaps, pushing it even. I realize that there is a chance that the regime I use may not work for everyone (although I believe it does) so I'm just documenting my results to show people what it does for my hair. But what I disagree with is people slamming my regimen without actually giving it any thought.

It's hard for me on this forum, how can it not be? Everyone gives advice based on their personal experiences, So it may look like I'm pushing my regimen on you all but I'm really just giving advice just like the rest of you. How can I give any other advice except for my personal experiences?

I don't mind you pushing your regimen because like you said it has worked for you and you provide proof. I'm actually going to check out your blog right now.
 

maher

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The reputation system does have its' flaws. Somebody new to the forum could see somebody with 10 green bars and think "this guy really knows his stuff about hair loss". That isn't always the case. Some guys with a great rep don't earn it by giving good advice. Many earn it in the Impact of Hair Loss section and we all know what goes on there. I usually only give negative rep if somebody is spreading bad information. I don't have a problem with guys thinking outside the box and trying new things, but when they come on here and claim that something works and provide absolutely zero proof, that is when I have a problem. I personally don't have a problem with hairchaser. I get why people might think he is shill because he has reminded us many times of the products he is using. To his credit though, he has provided a number of pics, and even started a blog documenting his progress.

We all just need to remember how much of an impact we may have on somebody coming here for information. Many people may come here and read the NOFAP thread or the many finasteride Sides threads and waste time using ineffective methods of treating their hair loss. When it comes to hair loss, wasting time is one of the worst things you can do.

Stop patronizing. You're no better than Fred! Giving me neg rep. on my random posts all the time. Gave me neg rep on this: I mean ,really?? I posted a Harvard study and let people to use their logic. And who the hell are you to say if any method is a waste of time or not. Obviously, you have some sort of personal vendeta on this kind of threads- just like Fred.

 
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maher , I think you are mistaken about this one , notcoolanymore thought he was randomly negged by us , that's why he randomly negged us back.

as this thread is about.
 

maher

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Even you have no idea of what these two studies mean, admit it, you're not a doctor and we none of us on the forums have a medical degree.

Fred, you illiterate? I dont have time for this. like you care what that means. you're non-believer. dont have to be a md. for this, persuming you know basics of statistic.

An increase of dihydrotestosterone by about 2 SD
(1.36 nmol/l) was associated with an increase of the
weekly number of orgasms by at least one
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zzzzz

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maher, pretty sure that study shows high levels of androgens cause people to masturbate, not the other way around. High DHT/T causes people to masturbate, not people masturbating causes high DHT. You are a moron

It is not even that difficult to read it

I negged you good luck on your 4 red bars
 

maher

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maher, pretty sure that study shows high levels of androgens cause people to masturbate, not the other way around. High DHT/T causes people to masturbate, not people masturbating causes high DHT. You are a moron

It is not even that difficult to read it

I negged you good luck on your 4 red bars

OMG.. Where is your MENSA membership card? I wanna hang myself right now.:wow: Whats the point.. The stupidest post I've ever read and then you have a nerve to brag how you negged me. Not just stupid, also illiterate. Read the study.


The more you masturbate, more DHT circulate; the more DHT circulates, the more you masturbate... Its a cycle! By NoFap you "break" the cycle and stop with overproduction of DHT. In unknown amount of time DHT goes back to baseline.

Your buddy Fred also negged me. What Fred? you cant figure out the basics of statistics? you know what SD means? its standard deviation. ring a bell?? Actually its 2SD = 2sigma. What this mean is, that this study is pretty "tight." :D And considering there were 100 test subjects, around same age, similar lifestyle(soldiers) thats not a suprise.

1.36nmol/l >> 2sigma =.(assuming "normal" Gause distribution) = 1.36 +/- 0.028nmol/l .. dispersion of data is pretty low. Almost 95% of sample values were in that range. And thats the statistical mean(average) of increased "step" per at least 1 orgasm weekly.

Now, you probaly know what the normal DHT level,...250-990pg/ml I converte this to n(nano)mol/l >> 1.47nmol/l - 4.7nmol/l.

So, endocrine system is not like linear math model, so you cant just go adding up the number of orgasms weekly, its more complex than that. But to those, who understand where Im going with this, they know what im talking about. Like I said- this study is very tight 1.36nmol/l is anything but neglectable. Its a big thing, actually.. i wonder how come this hasnt resurfaced lot sooner.
 

Notcoolanymore

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And who the hell are you to say if any method is a waste of time or not.

Yeah you are right, I am not the person to say whether or not a method is a waste of time. So I let the evidence do the talking, and so far the evidence(or lack thereof) is speaking volumes. NOFAP isn't a new concept. It has been around for years and has never shown anything, you know that and I know that.

The thing that you guys don't seem to get when you post this type of stuff is that you are really hurting the integrity of this forum. You are no better than the over the top anti finasteride guys that claim to get persistent ED after just touching a finasteride tablet. Spreading this kind of nonsense has hurt and will continue to hurt countless guys that believe that this stuff might help. I can only imagine how many guys will fall for this stuff and waste precious time doing nothing to treat their hair loss.

You are really being irresponsible by spreading this nonsense and claiming it works when you have absolutely nothing to back up your claims. I recently started using laser and have yet to see any results. What you are doing is the equivalent of me coming on here claiming that laser is the best thing ever without truly seeing any result.

Now we have at least 2 NOFAP threads. These forums are getting worse every day when it comes to finding factual information.
 
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can you prove that god exists ? no you can't

and yet it might exist without you being able to prove it...

for the umpteenth time , us not being able to prove it doesn't mean it not bearing fruits.

I understand your standpoint as being : no proofs = not worth your while

but sincerely , what good would it do to us to fake the outcomes ?

nothing , on the contrary , I would find it utterly disrespectful to all of you and myself in the first place, wasting so much time and efforts writing all this garbage if it was one , why would I refrain myself for more than one month and come here to talk about it ? To have your medals pinned on my shirt and having all of you applauding me at the same time ?

No ,I am here to share my experience above all.

it's not like one more or one less guy wanking on the face of earth is going to change anything in our lives.
 

2bald2young

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maher and hairy monkey I don't understand why you are replying. You are not going to convince them in any way and the only thing that happens is them giving you a bad rep. So to put it plain simply try the nofap for yourself and give proof by uploading pictures. For your reputation bars sake stop replying. Btw I mean this in a friendly way.
 

resu

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Thinking outside the box got us breakthrough treatments such as rubbing semen on the scalp after mutilating it with a roller.
 
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