Revivogen users

[viperfish]

The people at Revivogen claim that you should see exactly what I am seeing at 3 months. I'm not claiming miracles here! I have had numerous side effects from Propecia, which would be my main reason to discontinue its usage. I have had everything from testicular pain, decrease in semen, decrease in libido, nipple sensitivity, and poor erections. These are the reasons I don't wanna use finasteride anymore. I am not comfortable with this. Like I said before I think spironolactone is pure bs when compared to Fluridil and RU.
I never said that I did not know the "difference" between the studies of Revivogen and Propecia. I just said that Revivogen seems to be improving the cosmetic apperance of my hair and the shedding has seemed to stop as of now.
There are not even many people that can honestly claim maintenance on spironolactone as most are using it concomitantly with minoxidil!

 

[absmon]

What is your reason in claiming spironolactone is bs? It wasn't long ago you were claiming you were acheiving fantastic regrowth on spironolactone (one of your previous threads). we all know spironolactone works on women and also if you look carefully at the Italian study, you will find they acheived pretty good results. I think you were one of those that went through a shed (which can happen on many treatments), but there is no reason for you to come on these boards and claim spironolactone is not effective. We also have to remember that you were also on propecia at the time of using spironolactone, which could have been responsible for you shed.

 

[HairlossCA]

I am curious to know if any studies have ever been conducted that have measured the actual rate of DHT accumulation in the scalp of male subjects. Obviously, different individuals are going to have different rates of DHT accumulation, so such a study would be most objective by having a random sample of say, 100 male participants from varying genetic and ethnic backgrounds, over a minimal period of 3 months. (Keep in mind, I am not entirely sure of what type of instrumentation would be needed to measure the amounts of DHT present in the scalp on a daily basis, with/without daily shampooing, etc).

By conducting such a study, the results may serve to provide a better understanding of the DHT rate of accumulation. It seems that this knowledge could directly impact the frequency for which topical DHT inhibitors like spironolactone would need to be applied.

Essentially, I am curious to know if spironolactone really needs to be applied daily? Perhaps those that are experiencing a shed from spironolactone are shedding because they may only have minimal DHT deposits that could be inhibited efficiently by only a 3 X week application of spironolactone. And, in effect, by instead applying spironolactone once or twice daily, the surplus spironolactone is creating a toxic or malnourishing environment for the follicles, hence leading to shedding?

I have read on this site that Minoxidil related sheds are healthy cycles that a hair undergoes, which ultimately provide a healthier, stronger hair (as long as the Minoxidil is continued and the patient is a good responder)--but are spironolactone sheds really healthy sheds or toxic sheds? A lot of posts I have seen discuss spironolactone sheds where any hair that was lost was not recovered--this could imply an unhealthy, irreversible shed, which could support a possible toxicity theory due to oversaturation.

Just a few thoughts...

 

[GourmetStyleWellness]

gourmetstylewellness.com

You apply Revivogen AND spironolactone cream during the day? Doesn't that mess up your hair big time and give it a stink?

Why does everyone still think spironolactone stinks? Im using Dr Lee's 5% lotion. It has zero smell. We put an article up on "The new Odorless spironolactone Lotion" nearly a year ago, and he's been selling it ever since.

What are you guys using?

gourmetstylewellness.com

 

[GourmetStyleWellness]

I have had numerous side effects from Propecia, which would be my main reason to discontinue its usage. I have had everything from testicular pain, decrease in semen, decrease in libido, nipple sensitivity, and poor erections. These are the reasons I don't wanna use finasteride anymore.

Totally understandable. I wish I had the brains you have to stop it when those things first happened to me. I ignored them for 3 yrs. In this case I definitely would tell you what others told me. Revivogen + spironolactone + Nizoral for the closest possible comparison to Propecia, in a topical non-side effects environment. Fluridil apparently has good data backing it too so if you're going that route, thats fine. I just am using the spironolactone method. 5% lotion.

gourmetstylewellness.com

 

[Cassin]

gourmetstylewellness.com

You apply Revivogen AND spironolactone cream during the day? Doesn't that mess up your hair big time and give it a stink?

Why does everyone still think spironolactone stinks? Im using Dr Lee's 5% lotion. It has zero smell. We put an article up on "The new Odorless spironolactone Lotion" nearly a year ago, and he's been selling it ever since.

What are you guys using?

gourmetstylewellness.com

It's when they use it with minoxidil.

 

[torch]

FWIW, I have been using Revivogen for about a 14 months. I had been using Minoxidil alone for about 7 years prior to adding Revivogen. The minoxidil slowed my hair loss over the years but did not all together stop it. I then added Revivogen (1 ml in the evening before bed). My hairloss has stopped and I got some regrowth to boot. I did not get 100% regrowth, nor was I expecting to. I probably have gotten about a 15-20% regrowth rate in the months that I have used it so far, but most importantly my hair loss has not progressed since I started the combo and continues to look better over time. To make a long story short, the Revivogen made the difference from slowing loosing hair to stopping it and getting some back.

 

[Scott_A]

Revivogen

Is it difficult to apply? Is it watery or a pasty solution? Is it noticable when it's in your hair? Will a 2oz bottle really last an entire month as advertised, or does that depend on the number of areas that are thinning?

Any help would be appreciated. Thinking of taking the plunge into Revivogen for a 1 year trial and see how it works.

 

[TOMOMASTA]

Revivogen is easy to apply, and doesnt irritate the scalp like minoxidil does.. Only drawbacj is that the grape seed in it stains the scalp a bit with contiued use

 

[viperfish]

GourmetStyleWellness mod,
What exactly happened that you had to quit using finasteride??? Was it just a mix of side effects or did something worse happen???

 

[Scott_A]

hmmm

Revivogen is easy to apply, and doesnt irritate the scalp like minoxidil does.. Only drawbacj is that the grape seed in it stains the scalp a bit with contiued use

Is this stain noticeable, or is it something you'd have to point out to other people? I have enough hair to keep my scalp hidden at the moment, except you can see it a bit when my hair is wet.

 

[TOMOMASTA]

I have a shaved head ,so everything is noticable...I would rub it in pretty well and wake up in the morning with somewhat brown reddish stains on my scalp everyday.. I had to quit becuase i knew people were going to start asking questions real soon Im not sure if it would be noticable with long hair, but it stained my skin...

 

[viperfish]

Absmon,
When did I ever say I had a horrible shed from spironolactone??? When I got on Propecia I also stopped using spironolactone! spironolactone irritated my scalp, dried my hairout and my hairline got significantly worse in the 4 months I was on spironolactone. Again what I thought was regrowth was actually my hairline slowly moving back (everyone is allowed a stupid post once in awhile). My point was that I just do not find spironolactone to be all that helpful. I'm not arguing the research it just does not seem to help the majority of those who use it. I mean it could be helping some maintain, but the majority of spironolactone users also use minoxidil. To me spironolactone does not seem like a worthwhile treatment.... especially when compared to other anti-androgens that are now available.

 

[viperfish]

I have noticed some slight staining, but it seems to mostly wash out in the morning when I shampoo. I have heard others talk about the staining, but I don't think it's really a big deal.

 

[Scott_A]

hairline

I have noticed some slight staining, but it seems to mostly wash out in the morning when I shampoo. I have heard others talk about the staining, but I don't think it's really a big deal.

Just wondering how noticeable it would be along my hairline ... Is this stuff thick, or is it watery? My hair is about 1-1.5" long on top ... hoping I'll actually be able to apply the stuff without losing it all in my hair. If it's watery, it would be hard to apply on the hairline, because it would run down your face.

 

[viperfish]

Scott,
I really would not worry about the staining. Try Revivogen out and buy a 3-month supply. They have a full money back guarentee so if your not satisfied you can always send it back. Staining is not a problem for me.

 

[Scott_A]

Thanks

Scott,
I really would not worry about the staining. Try Revivogen out and buy a 3-month supply. They have a full money back guarentee so if your not satisfied you can always send it back. Staining is not a problem for me.

I appreciate the advice. I'll give it a shot. My hair loss is not happening very quickly, I don't think, so it's gonna be hard for me to gauge if it's actually slowing my loss. You see, I haven't combed my hair in years because I never let it get really long ... maybe 2" longest .... there's been a few times over the last couple years that I wondered if my hairline was receding, but I kinda convinced myself I wasn't and just forgot about it. But in the last three weeks, after getting a haircut, I really noticed that my hairline was not the same. After some close investigation, I could see where my hairline had receeded. I can see some small hairs where my hairline was before. I'm also thinning on top. But I don't wake up with hairs on my pillow, and when I was my hair I don't have hair on my hands. If I rub my head maybe 1 or 2 hairs will fall. So I don't get it.

I find it really hard to get good info about hairloss. Most forums I read, people switch up their treatments every three months, and you rarely see posts from people that have stuck with a treatment for a year or longer. I've seen a ton of negative posts about Revivogen on another forum. I guess I'm just worried about getting scammed because I don't have a lot of money.

Anyway, I'll try this stuff out and I'll try to keep up to date on my results. It's gonna be revivogen and Nizoral for me. I'm not goin' the finasteride route, or the dutasteride route. Don't wanna mess with my hormones. If Revivogen doesn't work, I'm letting nature take it's course.

 

[viperfish]

The thing about Revivogen is is that many people post negative things about it. But, when you ask them how long they used it for they will say something like 3 months. 3 months is not enough time to see anything! People simply do not give it enough time to actually work so Revivogen gets a bad rep. You gotta give it a year to a year and a half. Most people who use it this long will report positives. It has about a 72% success rate according to surveys that were conducted under the Revivogen people and here at this very website. That is for people who used it for a significant amount of time.

 

[doggfather]

Isn't there a double standard when you say that you should be on Revivogen a year to a year and a half for Revivogen to work but then you say you don't think spironolactone is that helpful when you were on it for only four months? Shouldn't you measure spironolactone by the same standard you use with Revivogen as well?

 

[viperfish]

Doggfather,
Yes you are right I should not do that! However, the only reason I have said that about spironolactone is due to the fact that after visiting this forum and many others I have come across many people who have used spironolactone for periods of 1-1.5 years with no success. With Revivogen I have not found this to be the case, generally it is people who have used it for 3-5 months. This is just my own feeling and not a great way to measure a products (spironolactone) success.