revivogen WOW

[cryuff]

i have a hard time believing but it's true,i've been using this stuff for 9 months now and it's actually working.now don't get me wrong it's not a huge turnaround but it is DEFINETLY working

 

[Guest]

"working"? Can you explain a little bit more?

 

[SE-freak]

What is your regimen besides that?

 

[THFC]

you know revivogen is oily yeh..........so when your hair sheds alot of the shed hair will attach itslf to hair that isnt falling out..so when u put ur hands thru ur hair u will see less fall out...dnt believe me?..try it with normal oil...im not aying revivogen is crap..but the oil certainly helps it look liek less hair is falling out when u put ur hands thru it..anyways well done dude, keep up the good work, heard some success stories with revivogen, but not too many on this forum

 

[VWdude]

You should really try some EMU oil.
you might have even better results.

 

[GourmetStyleWellness]

you know revivogen is oily yeh..........so when your hair sheds alot of the shed hair will attach itslf to hair that isnt falling out..so when u put ur hands thru ur hair u will see less fall out...dnt believe me?..try it with normal oil...im not aying revivogen is crap..but the oil certainly helps it look liek less hair is falling out when u put ur hands thru it..anyways well done dude, keep up the good work, heard some success stories with revivogen, but not too many on this forum

Im not going to speak for the guy but I think he's probably smart enough to eliminate this factor. What you are talking about works for about 5 hours. As soon as you take a shower or do anything, if oil is the only thing holding the hair in place, that hair is going to fall out. This guy is saying after 9 months of use he feels its doing its job. Big difference, and for once its nice to hear someone give a product sufficient time to work before they make an assessment. My guess is he probably has seen no further progression of his hair loss, and that is exactly what I would expect Revivogen to accomplish, if it worked.

I have been on Revivogen spironolactone Nizoral combo for 3 years and have maintained my entire hairline that was falling out like mad before I went on Propecia for 3 years.

So I've maintained what looks like a full head of hair for 6 years now and I have not even touched Minoxidil. Only kept to DHT inhibitors and antiandrogens. All of my buddies are literally hating life right now ... look like hell hair-wise ... and are hitting age 32 and calling me.

gourmetstylewellness.com

 

[miker2843]

wow congrats man, tell us the timeline if you can, cause I use folligen, rev, nizoral and minoxidil plus green tea and soy isoflavones extracts and I have defently seen more hair appear, most are vellus, but overall it has gotten thinner, so I am thinking I went through a shed, cause I shave my head and it is harder to see hair fall out...Anyways man how long did it take for you to really see results???

 

[Chujgcha]

Only kept to DHT inhibitors and antiandrogens.

gourmetstylewellness.com

gourmetstylewellness.com,

I would suggest an edit before the gestapo reads that.

Chuj

 

[Guest]

Anyone notice this guy with the results has like two posts? I wonder if that's coincidental...

 

[cryuff]

hey guys i'm back.listen the thing i do is follow the instructions.i put the stuff on my scalp at night.about an hour before bed so it is dry, and i shampoo with the shampoo that came with it. But listen i'm not saying it's a huge diffrence, but there is like i said more hair there than before. i am very hopefull that all the promising stuff turns out to last and grow even more in the next couple of months.they say to give it a year so we will see

 

[Cornholio]

I have been on Revivogen spironolactone Nizoral combo for 3 years and have maintained my entire hairline that was falling out like mad before I went on Propecia for 3 years.
gourmetstylewellness.com

gourmetstylewellness.com... are you saying that you maintained on topicals alone (revivogen, spironolactone, nizoral) or in ADDITION to propecia over the last 3 years?

I hope Revivogen does work... but without a study it is impossible to know what the chances are it will help other people, or how much it will help if at all.

Looking for studies on Revivogen's ingredients I see a lot of things that fall into the "maybe helpful but not proven" including ALA, GLA and azelaic acid which have invitro activity but no well proven topical anti-androgen efficacy in people, and certainly no studies showing it regrows hair in humans. I dont know that I would trust it to take the place of propecia.

I have hope that ALA in some form or concentration will prove helpful, but the studies need to be done... Testimonials will never prove anything....

 

[GourmetStyleWellness]

gourmetstylewellness.com... are you saying that you maintained on topicals alone (revivogen, spironolactone, nizoral) or in ADDITION to propecia over the last 3 years?

Started losing hair. Went on Propecia 3 months later.
3 years on Propecia and Nizoral - maintained my hair.
3 years on Revivogen, spironolactone Lotion 5%, Nizoral alone - maintained my hair.

Looking for studies on Revivogen's ingredients I see a lot of things that fall into the "maybe helpful but not proven"

That's why we categorize Revivogen in the unproven section of the site. Its not a shameful title. If all we did was talk proven treatments, we'd only talk Propecia and Rogaine. However I challenge you to find as much clinical data and studies backing the ingredients in any product in the unproven realm that even comes close to rivaling Revivogen's. Of course its a crap shoot, but in the world of uncertainty, Revivogen dominates the "potentially helpful" category hands down.

There is a bit of a gray area between this category and PROVEN though where I would toss in things like RU and Topical spironolactone. Or maybe not. Its up to you.

ALA, GLA and azelaic acid which have invitro activity but no well proven topical anti-androgen efficacy in people

There is Propecia and Rogaine and then 500,000 other products. Do you only use products that have studies done on humans? Probably a good idea, but for guys who can not tolerate finasteride, spironolactone/Revivogen combo is the way to go. I always quote this article but it still rings true today:
http://www.gourmetstylewellness.com/productrevi ... icle02.htm

I dont know that I would trust it to take the place of propecia.

Agreed, and I dont think anyone made that suggestion in this thread ... definitely not anywhere on the rest of the site. Always use proven treatments before unproven ones. Wouldn't it be nice if people actually followed that advice? ;-)

Testimonials will never prove anything....

Amen brother. There is one specific man I have in mind right now who needs to hear that over and over and over ....

As for calling it a DHT inhibitor - i do that to rile bryan up ;-)

gourmetstylewellness.com

 

[Hairport]

gourmetstylewellness.com --

I know you have most likely explained this thousands of times ... but why did u quit propecia? Also, do you think that spironolactone/Revivogen is a good alternative post-hair transplant?

 

[HairlossCA]

gourmetstylewellness.com

I used (separately) the elements of your regimen and variated occasionally to see if I could get favorable results, etc.

I can say that I have not had alot of success with Revivogen (at bedtime) in conjunction with finasteride (daily) and Nizoral (2-3 times weekly). Employed this regimen for about a year.

So I tried spironolactone (5% at bedtime) instead and maintained the constants (finasteride and nizoral). Still not alot of success. Tried this for a year also.

How often do you apply Rev and spironolactone each day--do you do it twice daily and in what sequence. Please elaborate as I may try exactly what you are doing to see what results I can achieve. Just maintenance would be a HUGE victory as I would prefer to stay away from minoxidil if possible.

Thanks alot.

 

[Cornholio]

ALA, GLA and azelaic acid which have invitro activity but no well proven topical anti-androgen efficacy in people

There is Propecia and Rogaine and then 500,000 other products. Do you only use products that have studies done on humans?

I think there is a world of difference between invitro and invivo... test tube models dont account for absorption, among other issues. Since there are balding monkeys in need of treatment and hamster flank organs to be supressed I trust these models more than in vitro, but less than human scalp studies. If any treatment were that effective it would be easy to do such at least a hamster if not a monkey study (if you had confidence it were effective).

Azelaic acid hasn't made that step. spironolactone has some animal studies, and even some human (acne, hirsuitism) testing showing some small effect. Fluradil has (as far as I know) only a forearm study of 40 volunteers showing a very small (?significant) difference in anagen phase hairs. They are all possible but not proven to be effective on the balding ape (human) scalps I care most about. I hope ALA pans out, as it does seem to have some promising studies.

I agree, the "proven" treatments arent always enough... If you need more you have to experiment on yourself a little : )

 

[Petchsky]

Started losing hair. Went on Propecia 3 months later.
3 years on Propecia and Nizoral - maintained my hair.
3 years on Revivogen, spironolactone Lotion 5%, Nizoral alone - maintained my hair.

To add to this, mainly because i have read lots of posts where gourmetstylewellness.com describes it.

gourmetstylewellness.com stopped the propecia for a whole year after great success due to side effects, maybe gyno. Realising that his hair was getting much worse after around a year of doing nothing he got on the spironolactone Rev nizoral combo.

 

[GourmetStyleWellness]

So I tried spironolactone (5% at bedtime) instead and maintained the constants (finasteride and nizoral). Still not alot of success.

Success has two definitions with hair loss. Maintenance and regrowth. Which one is yours? Mine is maintenance. If you want regrowth you need a growth stimulant included. If you want to avoid minoxidil, consider Tricomin.

gourmetstylewellness.com

 

[GourmetStyleWellness]

I think there is a world of difference between invitro and invivo

No Doubt. But there's also a world of difference between the amount of data backing the ingredients in revivogen *IN COMPARISON TO* the millions of ridiculously unbacked snake oils out there that make up the "unproven" world. We aren't disagreeing, we're agreeing.

Ill take a bunch of accurately run, peer reviewed published studies on hamster flank organs and the ability for Rev ingredients to inhibit DHT topically in them ..... over joe blow armchair chemist who decides to lie to the public and grind up a powder in his kitchen and sell it online, containing nothing but vitamins and some magic potion that is almost always completley unbacked by data. The former is Revivogen. The latter is everyone else.

I agree, the "proven" treatments arent always enough... If you need more you have to experiment on yourself a little : )

And if you're going to trust an unproven treatment, it is only logical that you use the one with the most data backing it. Those are Sprio and Revivogen, hands down. I never suggest using either before giving Propecia a good 2 full years to work though.

There is a million miles between the amount of proof backing Propecia's effectiveness and that which is availble for Revivogen. About the same level of distance exists between Revivogen and the other unproven treatments out there though, and that's the point.

gourmetstylewellness.com

 

[GourmetStyleWellness]

Right Petch. My Story: http://www.gourmetstylewellness.com/discussions ... hp?p=53066

gourmetstylewellness.com

 

[Bryan]

I think there is a world of difference between invitro and invivo... test tube models dont account for absorption, among other issues. Since there are balding monkeys in need of treatment and hamster flank organs to be supressed I trust these models more than in vitro, but less than human scalp studies. If any treatment were that effective it would be easy to do such at least a hamster if not a monkey study (if you had confidence it were effective).

Azelaic acid hasn't made that step. spironolactone has some animal studies, and even some human (acne, hirsuitism) testing showing some small effect.

Err...it's not JUST acne and hirsutism with spironolactone, but also BALDING. Androgenetic alopecia. Don't forget that.

Fluradil has (as far as I know) only a forearm study of 40 volunteers showing a very small (?significant) difference in anagen phase hairs.

GRRRR....as I told you before, the anagen/telogen test was on BALDING HUMAN SCALPS, not forearms!

Bryan