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[Bryan]

Looking for studies on Revivogen's ingredients I see a lot of things that fall into the "maybe helpful but not proven" including ALA, GLA and azelaic acid which have invitro activity but no well proven topical anti-androgen efficacy in people, and certainly no studies showing it regrows hair in humans.

There's an important MIDDLE STEP in there which you glossed-over, and that's the results in experimental animals. The key ingredients in Revivogen (GLA, ALA, linoleic and oleic acids, etc.) were convincingly demonstrated to have various antiandrogenic activities in a long and thorough set of hamster flank-organ tests. BTW, topical GLA was also shown to have a very significant effect on sebum production in a small HUMAN test that was done by some of those same researchers (Liang and Hiipakka) for one of their patent applications, so even your statement about "no well proven anti-androgenic efficacy in people" is not entirely correct.

I have hope that ALA in some form or concentration will prove helpful, but the studies need to be done...

Agreed. Tests for male pattern baldness still need to be done, but a lot of the preliminary work already HAS been done. Topical fatty acids (certain ones, anyway) are PROVEN to have antiandrogenic effects in vivo.

Bryan

 

[TheBaldingMenace]

VWdude, I know that you're pulling us around with this "Emu Oil" routine. Just curious though if you've actually used the stuff? Also, you of course know that you're giving Emu Oil free advertising?

 

[Cornholio]

Fluradil has (as far as I know) only a forearm study of 40 volunteers showing a very small (?significant) difference in anagen phase hairs.

GRRRR....as I told you before, the anagen/telogen test was on BALDING HUMAN SCALPS, not forearms!

Bryan

Bryan, did you growl at me ? : ) I couldnt tell from the summaries i had read where they put the fluradil. I guess only the first study of 20 people was forearm. My bad. Here is the actual second study in all it's glory http://www.hairsite2.com/flu.pdf . In another thread you posted that this increase in anagen phase was greater than that of spironolactone, and you seemed to believe that fluradil was more beneficial than spironolactone.

I guess my only remaining concern (before believing that revivogen and fluradil (or spironolactone) is an ideal combo, would be that I dont know that the ingredients in revivogen are of the same concentration as in the studies (as the studies were of the ingredients in revivogen, not revivogen itself).

 

[Cornholio]

Fluradil has (as far as I know) only a forearm study of 40 volunteers showing a very small (?significant) difference in anagen phase hairs.

GRRRR....as I told you before, the anagen/telogen test was on BALDING HUMAN SCALPS, not forearms!

Bryan

Bryan, did you growl at me ? : ) I couldnt tell from the summaries i had read where they put the fluradil. I guess only the first study of 20 people was forearm. My bad. Here is the actual second study in all it's glory http://www.hairsite2.com/flu.pdf . In another thread you posted that this increase in anagen phase was greater than that of spironolactone, and you seemed to believe that fluradil was more beneficial than spironolactone.

I guess my only remaining concern (before believing that revivogen and fluradil (or spironolactone) is an ideal combo, would be that I dont know that the ingredients in revivogen are of the same concentration as in the studies (as the studies were of the ingredients in revivogen, not revivogen itself).
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[SE-freak]

Emu oil is free advertising? I thought you had seen his avatar. But then again I think he is having some great results and he is "drunk" with success. That's why he is so playful.

 

[dis]

Success has two definitions with hair loss. Maintenance and regrowth. Which one is yours? Mine is maintenance. If you want regrowth you need a growth stimulant included. If you want to avoid minoxidil, consider Tricomin.

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I’ve been using Revivogen / spironolactone 5% once daily for years. It works but I am losing ground this last year or so. Tried Fluridil and stopped it due to a lot of shedding, which is now under control. Anyway, I’m thinking I might give Tricomin a try. Does anyone know what the official Tricomin site is to order it? How long does it last, and has anyone actually seen regrowth with it? I am interesting in the actual Tricomin SOD, and not any shampoo or anything else that comes with it. Also, does Tricomin leave your hair greasy like prox-n? Can I use it in the morning and Revivogen / Sprio 5% in the evening?

BTW, I still have a week and half supply of Fluridil left (12 2 ml little glass containers). If someone is interesting in trying it, but concerned if they will get a bad skin reaction from it and don’t want to order a full months supply, then I can possibly send it to you for almost nothing. Let me know, because I don't know what to do with it.

Thank you,

 

[viperfish]

i have a hard time believing but it's true,i've been using this stuff for 9 months now and it's actually working.now don't get me wrong it's not a huge turnaround but it is DEFINETLY working

Hey, great to hear man! I used it for 10 months and quit because I saw no improvement at all. I also got incredibly sick of the smell and the way it made my hair look. Congrats man I'm jealous of you and wish it could have worked out for me!

 

[Bryan]

In another thread you posted that this increase in anagen phase was greater than that of spironolactone, and you seemed to believe that fluradil was more beneficial than spironolactone.

No, that must have been someone else. I've never commented on the efficacy of fluridil, except to say that I have no idea whether it really works or not.

I guess my only remaining concern (before believing that revivogen and fluradil (or spironolactone) is an ideal combo, would be that I dont know that the ingredients in revivogen are of the same concentration as in the studies (as the studies were of the ingredients in revivogen, not revivogen itself).

The original Revivogen formula (when it first came out) had a fatty acid concentration that was the same as what they used in the hamster study. I know that because I exchanged a few emails with one of the people there (Dr. Sargani? Shargani?), and he was kind enough to give me some of the details of its content. However, I have no idea if the newer version that they're selling nowadays is the same.

Bryan

 

[GourmetStyleWellness]

How long does it last

Completed studies would be required to answer this question. They only did partial FDA trials on this product.

has anyone actually seen regrowth with it?

I have seen photos from the partial FDA trials on it and there were some that showed noticeable regrowth. Many women on the women's site are using it with success. Again its all about patience. Will you ride out any sheds and give it at least 10 months?

does Tricomin leave your hair greasy like prox-n? Can I use it in the morning and Revivogen / Sprio 5% in the evening?

Not that Ive heard of. And spironolactone needs to be the most important part of that regimen so spironolactone needs to be used 2x a day. Fit the others in creatively.

Good Luck.

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[dis]

Does anyone know what the official Tricomin site is to order it?

We've got it here on the gourmetstylewellness.com store for about as low as you'll find it anywhere, probably lower:

http://www.gourmetstylewellness.com/shop/catalo ... p?cPath=35

How long does it last

Completed studies would be required to answer this question. They only did partial FDA trials on this product.

[quote:096c3]has anyone actually seen regrowth with it?

I have seen photos from the partial FDA trials on it and there were some that showed noticeable regrowth. Many women on the women's site are using it with success. Again its all about patience. Will you ride out any sheds and give it at least 10 months?

does Tricomin leave your hair greasy like prox-n? Can I use it in the morning and Revivogen / Sprio 5% in the evening?

Not that Ive heard of. And spironolactone needs to be the most important part of that regimen so spironolactone needs to be used 2x a day. Fit the others in creatively.

Good Luck.

gourmetstylewellness.com[/quote:096c3]

Thanks, I just ordered Tricomin Therapy Spray from your site and I will give it a go.

Regarding spironolactone 5% twice a day, I am sure it would be more effective but I just can't do it. The stuff leaves your hair messy and I am also concerned about the spironolactone smell if I begin to sweat. I hope adding tricomin in the morning can at least help maintain my hair with Revivogen / spironolactone 5% in the evening.

Thanks.