Seems like its more than just a minority of people who experience sides

[TD500]

Especially on here. I'm still waiting to see my dermatologist, but I've been reading alot of this site and it seems like almost every other post someone is complaining of sides. Even the people who have had success have had side effects.

 

[viet nom nom]

If you want honest evidence, stay off the internet.

 

[on_a_plain]

stay off the inhibitor drugs...
androgen inhibition is castration.

if you dont bleeve guys and scientific researches you are free to test it on yourself.

http://www.propeciahelp.com/forum/download/file.php?id=1006


neuroactive steroid levels after discontinuation (this one is clearly shows that all enzymes 5ar and 5br shutdown in the brain after discontinueing with low testosterone)
http://www.propeciahelp.com/forum/download/file.php?id=1005

 

[0-100realquick]

TD500, I have been preparing myself to take propecia for the past 3 months. I have been reading about hair loss everyday for hours each day, and I always get swayed towards one side of whether or not to take propecia. You will find more people who are against propecia on the internet because all of the people who don't have sides and are benefiting from propecia are enjoying their full heads of hair and loving life. My advice would be the same as viet nom nom, stay off the internet. The mind is the most powerful thing known to man and can make someone believe that their penis doesn't work after taking a sugar pill. (if you catch my drift).

 

[on_a_plain]

try and see dude you are free... this will screw your neurostroidal levels and change your brain/body chemical as you can see in a scientific research.

when you crash ,when you lost penile sensitivity and penile shrinkage AFTER DISCONTINUATION , please dont swear yourself because youcompared it with a sugar pill. its not like sugar finasteride is potent CASTRATION. also these drug companies getting ready for lawsuits in several countries.

if you thought hair on a dead skull looks impressive for girls, you are wrong.

take care.

http://www.propeciahelp.com/forum/download/file.php?id=1005
CSF increased:

testosterone
17β-estradiol

CSF decreased:

tetrahydroprogesterone
isopregnanolone
dihydrotestosterone

Plasma decreased:

dihydroprogesterone
5α-androstane-3α
17β-diol
17β-estradiol

Does this mean certain enzymes are just not working or is it the whole down regulation of androgenic response. Increased testosterone I guess could be from not being converted to DHT, but increased estrogen? Maybe thats why people have brief recoveries on aromatase inhibitors. But the brain possibly readjusted to maintain PFS conditions.

I wonder what would happen if someone took progesterone and an aromatase inhibitor. Sounds risky though.

 

[paulie72785]

Just fvcking stop.finasteride is in no way a CASTRATION drug.It s an INHIBITOR.Its function is to take down DHT levels.On the other hand spironolactone taken in oral form is castration.

 

[massa]

On a plain is a troll from propecia help don't listen to him !

 

[beaner]

Especially on here. I'm still waiting to see my dermatologist, but I've been reading alot of this site and it seems like almost every other post someone is complaining of sides. Even the people who have had success have had side effects.

You're only reading the experiences of the vast minority who come online to complain. The internet does not reflect the real world experiences of the majority.

 

[on_a_plain]

keep going and watch this transexxual blog for hair you can get valueable information regarding hairline and feminization process.

they are only using finasteride and estrogen, i will go and boost some testosterone guys sorry i have no time for trans talk


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6d8cryW-oQ

 

[Notcoolanymore]

Another anti propecia troll. Let me guess another guy that tried propecia, thought he got sides, now claims to have PFS. These trolls are not here to help anybody but themselves. Most likely got scared because he too read the horror stories and now he is too afraid to use the main medication available to treat hair loss. He is defeated and now wants you to lose also either by getting sides or failing to treat your hair loss and go bald.

The worst thing about these a holes is that most of them have full heads of hair yet preach to us as if they are really choosing their health over going bald.

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This is where reputation comes in handy.

 

[Grammaton Cleric]

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This is where reputation comes in handy.

 

[on_a_plain]

no, you wil understand soon that hairy scalp is not and androgenic and alpha thing its gayish.

btw most of guys hava full head of hair

please read this, its reality, its no problem for me to you getting impotent hahhaa use this propecia right now

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discontinuation of finasteride, total
testosterone ( which is boosted by finasteride. intake -
you have high libido - you feel good etc .
when on finasteride. because of "LH secration " to
compansate decreasing DHT) will be
hammered down and that makes your
adrenals & thyroid & neurosteroids gets
collapsed in 2 -3 week because of increasing
conversion of T into E, also this Estrogen will
impair thyroid not to function good (" ultra
high estrogen levels decrease throxine to
bound to cells ", you can google . ), and stress
the adrenals(you can google "high estrogen
lower progesterone in adrenals = adrenal
fatigue" ) by decreasing progesterone, then
you will feel like a zombie , fatigue etc ., it will
leave you with estrogen dominant.
NOW- - Your Total Testosterone is boosted to
x2 more than you have prefinasteride when
using finasteride because increased LH
secration body trying to compansate "blocked
DHT" , but your DHT, which controls
testosterone-> estradiol conversion is shutted
down. So you have high T and High E
together.
AFTER cessation there is no finasteride
blocking 5 ar, so you feel a boost in DHT for
an instance , shedding etc . additionally your
ultra high testosterone from finasteride usage goes
into(aromatese) ultra high levels of estradiol
(estrogen) MUCH MORE THAN DHT because
the impaired pathways , you will ended up
with low testosterone( because there is no
finasteride is increasing LH secration) and
very high systemic and neurologic estrogen.
and this is a crash (you can read high
estrogen or estrogen dominance in men to
google in that period .)
google these terms : high estrogen
sytmptoms, hypothyroidism and adrenal
fatigue. because three of them will be your
enemy after this drug / cessetion.
you have to manage adrenal, thyroid and
estrogen balance for ever, trying to flush out
excess estrogens in your body and central
nervous system fluids
if it fits for you that no problem
i hope you understand the 5 ar inhibiting
process, and its afterparty .
br

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you can use finasteride dude but be aware, your life quality will screwed after cessation

Central Nervous System Atropy newly founded pfs side
https://www.google.com.tr/search?q=CNS+atrophy&oq=CNS+atrophy&aqs=chrome..69i57.528595j0j1&sourceid=chrome&es_sm=93&ie=UTF-8

 

[massa]

I don't use finasteride I use dutasteride

 

[on_a_plain]

I don't use finasteride I use dutasteride

oww ff**.
1-its more potent than finasteride it blocks 5ar1,2,3 and has 1 month of half life.
2-http://www.susans.org/forums/index.php?topic=69558.0 <---dont get shocked now

 

[templerecess]

There really are very few people who experience side effects. On this forum it seems like every other person also suffers a lot from minoxidil. Exaggerations. Personally, my finasteride has given me no sides, not even watery ejaculate. And minoxidil feels like water dripping on my head.

 

[Notcoolanymore]

Looks like grammaton cleric has a new friend.

 

[paulie72785]

oww ff**.
1-its more potent than finasteride it blocks 5ar1,2,3 and has 1 month of half life.
2-http://www.susans.org/forums/index.php?topic=69558.0 <---dont get shocked now

Fine then let say i take your advice and stop finasteride/dutasteride.Now what??My hair is going away so what would YOU recommend......

 

[on_a_plain]

you can t use this heavy inhibitor for years. this is very bad situation iknow it. but interestingly you will not lose hair. you become estrogen dominant after cessation.



try and see, you understand that dropping this **** not backs you 100/100.
and dutasteride has 1 month halflife you have to wait for 2.5 3 months to wear off.
also please take a photo of your face before cessation.
too many guys experiencng chin bone loss due to low androgens. and forehead bone expandion due to Growth hormone fluctations after cessation.

please note that a facial fat loss / subcutenous fat loss will be occurewd after cessation. try and see how your face become after all

(like this)
BEST REGARDS

 

[hmm]

The internet is where every one comes to b!tch and moan. Those who are having great success and no sides are out living life and not reading this forum. I come on here from time to time to see if any new treatments are on the horizon and browse hilarious threads like this.

 

[Notcoolanymore]

Fine then let say i take your advice and stop finasteride/dutasteride.Now what??My hair is going away so what would YOU recommend......

These anti finasteride guys don't recommend anything. They will never actually give you any alternatives that work. I have asked the same question you have countless times and have yet to hear anything useful from these guys. I am all for getting factual information, but this is a hair loss forum. It's not slybaldguys and it sure as hell isn't propeciahelp, but these guys act like it is. That is why I give these guys so much crap because most of them are full of it and they need to be exposed.