Severe Trace Elements and Vitamins Deficiency In Men With Androgenic Alopecia

Juan1991

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This study shows that whatever the underlying metabolic mechanism of Androgenetic Alopecia is, it also makes us more prone to develop several deficiencies and that the problem we are facing goes deeper than the simple "androgen sensibility" of the follicles explanation that we have heard for years.

They found that patients with Androgenetic Alopecia had higher levels of DHT (22.1% on average) and that regardless of the level of DHT, all of them were characterized by multiple deficiencies of trace elements, metals and vitamins in comparison with the healthy controls. In particular, zinc content was reduced by 21.4%, copper by 42.1%, magnesium by 10%, selenium by 30%, vitamin B12 by 15.5% , and vitamin D by 53.3%. All Androgenetic Alopecia patients were also deficient in folic acid and the more DHT they had the more deficient they were compared to the controls. In the subgroup of the Androgenetic Alopecia patients with more DHT folic acid was reduced by 66% and in the subgroup with less DHT by 39%.

The study also discusses several implications and possible explanations for several of its findings. I attached a pdf with the complete paper in case anyone is interested.

This sentence from the study sums it up nicely.

"This fact confirms the assumption that there are more complex mechanisms for the development of this condition with a significant role of non-hormonal factors acting in combination with hormonal and genetic risk factors which, however, requires further study."

This is the link to the abstract.

https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s12011-020-02468-2

"Androgenetic alopecia (Androgenetic Alopecia) is the most common variant of male pattern baldness in which occurrence and development of multiple genetic, hormonal, and metabolic factors are involved. We aimed to estimate plasma element content (Mg, Ca, Zn, Cu, Se, Fe), vitamin status (B12, D, E, and folic acid) in patients with Androgenetic Alopecia using direct colorimetric tests or atomic absorption spectrometry, and the influence of these parameters in the formation of various hair loss patterns. The study included 50 patients with I–IV stages of Androgenetic Alopecia divided into two groups with normal and high levels of dihydrotestosterone compared with 25 healthy individuals. The presence of two patterns of pathological hair loss in the androgen-dependent (parietal) and androgen-independent (occipital) areas of the scalp was confirmed. It was shown that all patients with Androgenetic Alopecia have a deficiency of elements (Zn, Cu, Mg, Se) and vitamins (B12, E, D, folic acid). However, the hair loss rate was not due to their content. А positive interrelation between quantitative trichogram parameters in the occipital region and iron metabolism in pairs “hair density vs Fe” and “hair diameter vs ferritin” was shown. In turn, in the parietal region, an inverse correlation of hair diameter with plasma Cu level was found, the most pronouncing in patients with high levels of dihydrotestosterone. The obtained results indicate the importance of multiple micronutrient deficiencies in the Androgenetic Alopecia occurrence accompanied by the existence of two different hair loss patterns, differently related to the content of certain trace elements and androgens in the blood."
 

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'Premature Graying, Balding, and Low Bone Mineral Density in Older Women and Men: The Rancho Bernardo Study [2009]​

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Among men, 10.7% reported graying, and 51.1%, balding; 9.9% of women reported graying, and 9.5%, balding. Models were adjusted for age, body mass index, alcohol consumption, smoking, exercise, calcium supplements, diuretics, glucocorticoids, thyroid hormone, and estrogen. Graying was not significantly associated with BMD in men or women. Balding men averaged 5% lower total body BMD (p ≤ 0.05), [...]'

 

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Interesting, in Spain they reported correlations between bald guys and ER/worst cases of Covid, vitamin D 50% drop may explain this perhaps
 

Will Be an Egg in 5 years

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Yes baldness indicates several other diseases, specially cancer and heart disease.

All the prostate cancer and BPH patients I knew/know personally are NW6-7, including my maternal grandfather
 

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'Androgenetic alopecia in men has been associated with several other medical conditions including coronary heart disease and enlargement of the prostate. Additionally, prostate cancer, disorders of insulin resistance (such as diabetes and obesity), and high blood pressure (hypertension) have been related to androgenetic alopecia.'

 

whatintheworld

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Not surprising, the academic literature has been exposing these links for a while.

Yet for some reason society still views this disease as purely cosmetic, when it certainly isn't for many reasons.
 

coolio

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Baldness is a symptom of all these underlying health issues, in the same way that being short in height is a symptom of a nutrition problem.


After all, malnutrition can DEFINITELY cause shorter height. No question.

But we still won't fix most people's short height with better nutrition. We still should not assume any short person that we meet is malnourished.

Correlation is not causation.
And even when it is, partial causation is still not full causation.


Baldness, like short height, is mainly genetic. The fact that other factors can have a partial influence or correlation does not negate the overwhelming main factor.
 
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Juan1991

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Baldness is a symptom of all these underlying health issues, in the same way that being short in height is a symptom of a nutrition problem.


After all, malnutrition can DEFINITELY cause shorter height. No question.

But we still won't fix most people's short height with better nutrition. We still should not assume any short person that we meet is malnourished.

Correlation is not causation.
And even when it is, partial causation is still not full causation.


Baldness, like short height, is mainly genetic. The fact that other factors can have a partial influence or correlation does not negate the overwhelming main factor.
The study doesn't say it isn't genetic. It clearly is. The thing is that it appears that androgenic alopecia is just a symptom of a deeper hereditary metabolic issue with important consequences for your overall health and well-being.

The cosmetic part of it is quite irrelevant compared to having systemic and constant low-grade inflammation in your body, less bone mineral density, higher risk to develop atherosclerosis and heart disease, higher risk to develop metabolic syndrome or diabetes and higher risk of testicular and prostate cancer. On top of that, now this study indicates that we are also systemically deficient in all sorts of nutrients compared with healthy not balding people.

My point is that, right now, all we have are pieces of a puzzle that goes way deeper than a simple "follicle sensitivity" to androgens. Androgenetic Alopecia is a cosmetic manifestation of a deeper genetic and metabolic disturbance.
 

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The study doesn't say it isn't genetic. It clearly is. The thing is that it appears that androgenic alopecia is just a symptom of a deeper hereditary metabolic issue with important consequences for your overall health and well-being.

The cosmetic part of it is quite irrelevant compared to having systemic and constant low-grade inflammation in your body, less bone mineral density, higher risk to develop atherosclerosis and heart disease, higher risk to develop metabolic syndrome or diabetes and higher risk of testicular and prostate cancer. On top of that, now this study indicates that we are also systemically deficient in all sorts of nutrients compared with healthy not balding people.

My point is that, right now, all we have are pieces of a puzzle that goes way deeper than a simple "follicle sensitivity" to androgens. Androgenetic Alopecia is a cosmetic manifestation of a deeper genetic and metabolic disturbance.
I'm not sure how can you be so assured that "goes way deeper than a simple "follicle sensitivity" to androgens"... when we have studies proving hair growth from use of anti-androgens or androgen-receptor antagonists..
 

Juan1991

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I'm not sure how can you be so assured that "goes way deeper than a simple "follicle sensitivity" to androgens"... when we have studies proving hair growth from use of anti-androgens or androgen-receptor antagonists..
What I mean by that is that, as I stated, there are many studies now linking Androgenetic Alopecia to all sorts of metabolic problems and diseases. This one in particular indicates important mineral and vitamin deficiencies in Androgenetic Alopecia subjects compared to the controls. To me that indicates that the underlying issue is way more serious than the balding itself and affects the whole body and not just the follicles in our heads. I'm in no way denying that androgens play a role in the pathogenesis of all this, I'm just stating that the issue has a higher level of complexity and implications.
 

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What I mean by that is that, as I stated, there are many studies now linking Androgenetic Alopecia to all sorts of metabolic problems and diseases. This one in particular indicates important mineral and vitamin deficiencies in Androgenetic Alopecia subjects compared to the controls. To me that indicates that the underlying issue is way more serious than the balding itself and affects the whole body and not just the follicles in our heads. I'm in no way denying that androgens play a role in the pathogenesis of all this, I'm just stating that the issue has a higher level of complexity and implications.

Do a study on 1000 short people selected from throughout world. You will ABSOLUTELY find a higher incidence of malnutrition compared to a control group of 1000 normal-height people. The link will be very clear.

That still doesn't mean the average short guy was unhealthy or needed better nutrition. It's not that simple.
 

Juan1991

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Do a study on 1000 short people selected from throughout world. You will ABSOLUTELY find a higher incidence of malnutrition compared to a control group of 1000 normal-height people. The link will be very clear.

That still doesn't mean the average short guy was unhealthy or needed better nutrition. It's not that simple.
No one is saying that bald people need better nutrition. The study just shows a correlation of Androgenetic Alopecia sufferers and deficiencies in certain nutrients. I don't know what you are talking about.
 

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does taking vitamins and mineral would stop hair loss or at least grow some hair?

A better diet can be mildly helpful in slowing down the long-term hair loss. It won't stop it or regrow hair that is gone. Male-pattern baldness is mainly a genetic problem.
 

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A better diet can be mildly helpful in slowing down the long-term hair loss. It won't stop it or regrow hair that is gone. Male-pattern baldness is mainly a genetic problem.
I think with an antiandrogen would make a good result.
 

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A better diet can be mildly helpful in slowing down the long-term hair loss. It won't stop it or regrow hair that is gone. Male-pattern baldness is mainly a genetic problem.
yes surely, i have seen benefits from it...
 

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Man I wouldn't be surprised, been diffuse thinning ever since I was 18, 27 now and it's not stopping anytime soon, just in the last two years it came to point of 'ohhh sh*t its quite bad but still can cover it up'. The fact I have have had been diagnosed with hypothyroidism and have been deficient in vitamin d whatever the weather condition just shows Im broken deep down within my body. Not to forget have been diagnosed with coeliac this month. So yeah all is good
 
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