Shedding Cycles While Taking 1.25mg Finasteride?

[Kalad!n]

As the title suggests. I've searched around past posts on this topic but I have not yet found a clear cut answer.

It's apparent that sheds do happen while taking Finasteride, be it 3,4,5,6 months etc. I see a lot of people saying not to worry and that the shedded hair will grow back but I'm yet to see any proof of this. The people who posted about their sheds never followed up with a progress report.

Is there anyone here who has been on Finasteride one year or longer who's grown back what they shed? Right now my left temple seems to getting chewed up day by day. My hair has lost so much density in just two weeks!

 

[Harv]

Yet to see a post where someone has put up photos with a regrowth to baseline after a shed

 

[Hairicane]

I've noticed the same thing, everyone talks about sheds but few (maybe none) ever report back that it turned out okay. I have poured over success stories and never seen pics.

 

[Harv]

Thats why i dont like people posting its a shed it will grow back as there is no substantial evidence on this forum

 

[Hairicane]

Thats why i dont like people posting its a shed it will grow back as there is no substantial evidence on this forum

If it's as common as people make it out to be the phenomenon should be well documented by *photographs*, before shed, after shed, after regrowth. I've spent hours scouring for such pics and I've found none.

Another thing I don't buy is that finasteride prevents balding for 83% of men. Oh sure, 83% of participants in Merck's study saw a stop to their hair loss, but they let over half of the participants drop out of the study and apparently did not account for their results.

Still, I'll take the drug until I can find a way to get dutasteride.

 

[HLV]

If it's as common as people make it out to be the phenomenon should be well documented by *photographs*, before shed, after shed, after regrowth. I've spent hours scouring for such pics and I've found none.

Another thing I don't buy is that finasteride prevents balding for 83% of men. Oh sure, 83% of participants in Merck's study saw a stop to their hair loss, but they let over half of the participants drop out of the study and apparently did not account for their results.

Still, I'll take the drug until I can find a way to get dutasteride.

In my personal opinion sheds are real. One possible reason for the lack of photographic evidence is that people don’t generally want to take pictures when their hair gets bad. They might only take them when their hair is looking good.

Most people treating hairloss have been in the state a lot of beginners are when they first start, hours panicking researching, hours researching etc. This is nothing new.

They were simply too busy panicking to think with a clear head and say “ I will take pictures now, and compare these to pictures later on”

HLV

 

[Hairicane]

In my personal opinion sheds are real. One possible reason for the lack of photographic evidence is that people don’t generally want to take pictures when their hair gets bad. They might only take them when their hair is looking good.

Most people treating hairloss have been in the state a lot of beginners are when they first start, hours panicking researching, hours researching etc. This is nothing new.

They were simply too busy panicking to think with a clear head and say “ I will take pictures now, and compare these to pictures later on”

HLV

I hope that I'm wrong and you are right, but I'm panicky 24-7 and I've got a ton of pics on my phone.

 

[HLV]

I hope that I'm wrong and you are right, but I'm panicky 24-7 and I've got a ton of pics on my phone.

While you are doing the intense research every beginner does when they notice hairloss, please let me know if you come across any photographic evidence of someone starting as a Norwood 2 and ending up a Norwood 5 while on finasteride.

HLV

 

[Harv]

@HLV
There are many threads from people on here over the years who have been on fina for over a year and have reported no success in regrowth after a bad shed. It seems to be from the general perspective from this forum that people who have had a bad experience with finasteride are the ones where they are with most of there hair and have experienced little hairloss. Whereas people in there adavanced stages of hairloss, finasteride seems to give them improved results.
Whilst i agree to an extent that not everyone will feel comftorable to post photos of there hair, it is still reasonable to expect for there to be atleast a few success stories after a shed with photos(from a forum which has been around for 15+years). The negative experiences of finasteride on this forum with photo evidence far outweigh the positive ones therefore if you are to be of the opinion regrowth to baseline is to be expected after shedding it should be backed up with some sort of concrete evidence otherwise it is pretty pointless to say sheds are real.

 

[Hairicane]

While you are doing the intense research every beginner does when they notice hairloss, please let me know if you come across any photographic evidence of someone starting as a Norwood 2 and ending up a Norwood 5 while on finasteride.

HLV

Nope, I've never seen a 2 end up a 5 either. Good point.

 

[HLV]

@HLV
There are many threads from people on here over the years who have been on fina for over a year and have reported no success in regrowth after a bad shed. It seems to be from the general perspective from this forum that people who have had a bad experience with finasteride are the ones where they are with most of there hair and have experienced little hairloss. Whereas people in there adavanced stages of hairloss, finasteride seems to give them improved results.
Whilst i agree to an extent that not everyone will feel comftorable to post photos of there hair, it is still reasonable to expect for there to be atleast a few success stories after a shed with photos(from a forum which has been around for 15+years). The negative experiences of finasteride on this forum with photo evidence far outweigh the positive ones therefore if you are to be of the opinion regrowth to baseline is to be expected after shedding it should be backed up with some sort of concrete evidence otherwise it is pretty pointless to say sheds are real.

I appreciate your response Harv.
Can i state that my personal opinion is that sheds are real. I do not believe I stated that as an objective fact.

Secondly, as you pointed out, the negative experiences on the forum will almost always outweigh the positive ones but my opinion is that when people are happy with their hair progress, there is no real reason to continue to post on the forums.

Finally, I strongly approve when you challenge me and say a statement should be backed by concrete evidence. You are correct that any claim should be backed by evidence.

However I do not believe I made a solid claim, rather I stated my opinion, and I also draw your attention to the numerous sometimes outrageous claims made on the forum, where people make statements as if they are facts without any solid evidence or photographic proof. In my opinion that is dangerous.

HLV

 

[Harv]

I understand you that are strongly of the opinion about the sheds rather than stating it as a fact. However surely you should derrive your strong opinion from peoples personal accounts with photos on this forum as that seems to be the most logical way to form a fair assumption about a shed. Therefore why are you so convinced that most people will make a full recovery?You are discounting the majority of peoples personal accounts with that opinion and trying to comfort others who are worried based on a claim with not much substance which is also dangerous.

I agree there will be more 'horror' stories on the forum thats just the internet when you research something based on symptoms, but like i said im not expecting tons of succcess stories but merely a few. Surely there would be a couple who would update if they recieved a recovery.

 

[HLV]

I understand you that are strongly of the opinion about the sheds rather than stating it as a fact. However surely you should derrive your strong opinion from peoples personal accounts with photos on this forum as that seems to be the most logical way to form a fair assumption about a shed. Therefore why are you so convinced that most people will make a full recovery?You are discounting the majority of peoples personal accounts with that opinion and trying to comfort others who are worried based on a claim with not much substance which is also dangerous.

I agree there will be more 'horror' stories on the forum thats just the internet when you research something based on symptoms, but like i said im not expecting tons of succcess stories but merely a few. Surely there would be a couple who would update if they recieved a recovery.

I am convinced because the fact is that shed or no shed, the majority of men who took Finasteride 1MG in the numerous studies reported success. Studies are the only objective evidence we have. Everyone is welcome to point flaws with the studies etc but they are the only reliable evidence we have. Anything anyone posts on a forum must be taken with a grain of salt, including me.

Could I kindly ask you the following. You are aware of minoxidil without a doubt. It is established that when starting minoxidil users experience heavy shedding before seeing regrowth. If minoxidil shedding has been established then why is it not logically feasible that shedding is possible with Finasteride 1MG?

That being said, I am not sure I can accept that I am doing anything “dangerous”, but you are of course entitled to your opinion. My intentions for coming back to the forums after 13 years was to try to be as objective and logical as possible. As you are only four months on Finasteride 1MG, consider coming back here after a year or two and reporting your experience for individuals of this forum.

May I also add, and I apologize and withdraw my statement if the admin has changed his mind, but at least ten years ago the admin personally stated to me that he believed sheds were very real. Of course, the admin is human and could be wrong, but without a doubt the admin has been on the forums since the very beginning and seen a lot, so if he believed, at least back then that sheds were real, perhaps his opinion should hold some merit.

HLV

 

[Kalad!n]

I just realized something. Two weeks ago I added Nizoral to my regime for the first time. Coincidentally, these last two week's have been my worst shed since I've been on Finasteride. Coukd Nizoral be the culprit here?

 

[Hairicane]

I just realized something. Two weeks ago I added Nizoral to my regime for the first time. Coincidentally, these last two week's have been my worst shed since I've been on Finasteride. Coukd Nizoral be the culprit here?

I have found that nizoral is harsh on my hair. It cuts down on itch and dandruff but "fries" my hair. I lost 100s of hairs in one shower last week, but I didn't use nizoral then but a children's shampoo.

 

[ggggffff]

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[Hairicane]

picture 1 - start of finasteride
picture 2 - 5 months in after the dread shed, density has taken a hit
picture 3 - 10 months, hairs looking a lot healthier and I've mostly recovered from the shed
picture 4 - crown at 5 months
picture 5 - crown at 10 months
I'd say crowns done the best, gone from diffusing to almost no visible loss
you've just got to stick it out, I've gone from shedding around 50 hairs a day pre finasteride, to shedding 200-300 a day during the shed, to about 15-20 hairs a day now.

Thank you. This makes my day.

 

[Kalad!n]

I've been shedding this much with each shower for the last couple of week's. At this rate I'm going to have no hair left before the summer is out!

 

[galdbs]

Thats why i dont like people posting its a shed it will grow back as there is no substantial evidence on this forum

i was shedding 150-200 hairs per day half a year ago(my scalp was visible) and hairline receded a lot. i am taking finasteride for 1.5 years untill this day..
but during my shed i noticed i had white flakes all over my head ( also had like white sebum all over my scalp) so i started to use apple cider vinegar 2 times a week..
my situation improved over the time and now i am regrowing back my juvenile hairline .. pretty amazing..