So what balding cures or future treatments are on the horizon?

HangingInThere

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I know the usual say is "baldness cure will be out in 5 years". But what's happening right now? I've heard of Replicel and Histogen. What are the other big projects currently going on? And when are they planning to release them approximately?

Hang in there,
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winnyblues

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Highly doubt theres going to be a 'cure' per say anytime soon. By the way theres a research and new treatment subsection in the forums if you have a closer look.
 

bilboswaggins

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if there is anything substantial besides replicel and histogen it has been kept low profile
but replicel is very promising with test subjects showing 10% increase in density... so if you are nw7 with 10 hairs on your head you may grow another hair!
 

hellouser

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if there is anything substantial besides replicel and histogen it has been kept low profile
but replicel is very promising with test subjects showing 10% increase in density... so if you are nw7 with 10 hairs on your head you may grow another hair!

LMAO!!!
 

winnyblues

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Let's be realistic, better treatments will come out before 2020, but it will not be a cure.

By 2030, we may have new things thanks to bionics and stem cell research, but still not available to the general public.

By 2040 these new treatments might be available, but still, it will most likely help you to keep your hair longer or regrow some of what you lost.

Anyone with some common sense would know that a full-blown cure that keeps you a NW1 no matter what will not happen in this century.

In the meantime, use what we have: FUE hair transplants, minoxidil, finasteride (if you're not scare of sides), concealers, SMP.

And add the new treatments that will come out in the years to come on top of that.

It's not like no cure means we're forced to remain slick bald if we don't want to.

it could happen this century but realistically.. we will be ****ing old by then
 

hellouser

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Let's be realistic, better treatments will come out before 2020, but it will not be a cure.

By 2030, we may have new things thanks to bionics and stem cell research, but still not available to the general public.

By 2040 these new treatments might be available, but still, it will most likely help you to keep your hair longer or regrow some of what you lost.

Anyone with some common sense would know that a full-blown cure that keeps you a NW1 no matter what will not happen in this century.

In the meantime, use what we have: FUE hair transplants, minoxidil, finasteride (if you're not scare of sides), concealers, SMP.

And add the new treatments that will come out in the years to come on top of that.

It's not like no cure means we're forced to remain slick bald if we don't want to.

Those are all your own timelines though... not exactly 'realistic'.

The reality is that none of us knows and very few people give a sh!t about solving male pattern baldness.
 

hellouser

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Let's be realistic, better treatments will come out before 2020, but it will not be a cure.

By 2030, we may have new things thanks to bionics and stem cell research, but still not available to the general public.

By 2040 these new treatments might be available, but still, it will most likely help you to keep your hair longer or regrow some of what you lost.

Anyone with some common sense would know that a full-blown cure that keeps you a NW1 no matter what will not happen in this century.

In the meantime, use what we have: FUE hair transplants, minoxidil, finasteride (if you're not scare of sides), concealers, SMP.

And add the new treatments that will come out in the years to come on top of that.

It's not like no cure means we're forced to remain slick bald if we don't want to.
Those are all your own timelines though... not exactly 'realistic'.

The reality is that none of us knows and very few people give a sh!t about solving male pattern baldness. Worse, is that you're essentially telling guys to not care about better treatments... the DEMAND needs to be there. You can't just throw your hands up in the air, shrug your shoulders and say 'oh well, thats it for us, we shouldnt make a case for anything better, all is doomed'

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Let's be realistic, better treatments will come out before 2020, but it will not be a cure.

By 2030, we may have new things thanks to bionics and stem cell research, but still not available to the general public.

By 2040 these new treatments might be available, but still, it will most likely help you to keep your hair longer or regrow some of what you lost.

Anyone with some common sense would know that a full-blown cure that keeps you a NW1 no matter what will not happen in this century.

In the meantime, use what we have: FUE hair transplants, minoxidil, finasteride (if you're not scare of sides), concealers, SMP.

And add the new treatments that will come out in the years to come on top of that.

It's not like no cure means we're forced to remain slick bald if we don't want to.
Those are all your own timelines though... not exactly 'realistic'.

The reality is that none of us knows and very few people give a sh!t about solving male pattern baldness. Worse, is that you're essentially telling guys to not care about better treatments... the DEMAND needs to be there. You can't just throw your hands up in the air, shrug your shoulders and say 'oh well, thats it for us, we shouldnt make a case for anything better, all is doomed'
 

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Let's be realistic, better treatments will come out before 2020, but it will not be a cure.

By 2030, we may have new things thanks to bionics and stem cell research, but still not available to the general public.

By 2040 these new treatments might be available, but still, it will most likely help you to keep your hair longer or regrow some of what you lost.

Anyone with some common sense would know that a full-blown cure that keeps you a NW1 no matter what will not happen in this century.

A cure like you get injections and your hair loss stops and your lost hair regrows? I'd say, very realistically, near the year 2035.

Better treatments and breakthroughs in hair transplantation will come before that of course. Well, I hope so.

lol just wondering what changed your mind
 

hellouser

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The question is, how do you convince NW1 journalists, scientists that hair loss is a real problem that needs a solution, and not a laughing matter?

You grow breasts and a vagina... nobody cares about men's health. Men simply don't exist.

[video=youtube;cNqX-k8y6RA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNqX-k8y6RA[/video]
 

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Those are all your own timelines though... not exactly 'realistic'.

The reality is that none of us knows and very few people give a sh!t about solving male pattern baldness.

Yup, that's his own timeline because he just had his hair transplant. But the cure is very near, not twenty years away. They grow allready hairs on mice.

And few give a ****?! If you find the treatment then you'll become richer than Bill Gates in just one second. There will allways be balding people so your treatment will allways be necessary so you and your children and grand children and grand grand grand children will never have to work again.
 

hellouser

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Yup, that's his own timeline because he just had his hair transplant. But the cure is very near, not twenty years away. They grow allready hairs on mice.

And few give a ****?! If you find the treatment then you'll become richer than Bill Gates in just one second. There will allways be balding people so your treatment will allways be necessary so you and your children and grand children and grand grand grand children will never have to work again.

7 billion people on the planet and I can count the number of teams working on a solution on ONE hand; Follica, Replicel, Lauster, Jahoda and Tsuji Labs.

Thats it. That's god damn pathetic.
 

hellouser

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When I started balding in 2007, they said the same on the internet forums, the cure is 5 years away!

We're almost 10 years later (and 40 years later my father's dermatologist bold statement) and no, still no cure.

We have had improvement in hair transplantation techniques and the apparition of SMP though, it might be nothing to some, but the saving grace for others such as myself.

To be fair, researchers just discovered stem cells in hair follicles 40 years ago, so expecting anything back then that quickly is pretty ridiculous. At this point right now though, its becoming unacceptable (benjt wont like hearing that though). I mean... 40 fvcking years of stem cell knowledge, research and almost all of it done on fvcking mice...?? What the fvck is the reason for this sh!tty progress?
 

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My father told me the dermatologist he went to in 1979 when he started balding said something along the lines "we might have a cure in 5-10 years"

When I started balding in 2007, they said the same on the internet forums, the cure is 5 years away!

When I went to get my first finasteride script from my derm, he hit me with this line:

"Finasteride and minoxidil should help you hold on for the next 5-10 years until something better comes out" :D
 

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I know the usual say is "baldness cure will be out in 5 years". But what's happening right now? I've heard of Replicel and Histogen. What are the other big projects currently going on? And when are they planning to release them approximately?

Hang in there,
Thanks
I am going to write what I have come to think. First hair loss on the top of the head happens due to the blood vessels on the top of the head being different internally, than those on the side of the head.

In my opinion this has to do with the skin on the head stretching, the skin on the side of the head is not what stretches, it is the top of the head where the skin stretches. The scalp becomes thinner, and whatever the veins on the top of the head had on the interior lining has now being altered. The DHT now clogs the veins on the top of the head, not allowing the blood to get to the follicle as it use to.
The follicle like a blade of grass, cannot survive without nutrition.

Genetics determine the thickness of the scalp, and people that do not lose their hair, have thicker scalps.
Also, people with a flat head do not lose their hair on the top of their heads, due to when their skin on their head stretches, it is being stretched from the front of the head to the back of the head. "A longer section."
Whereas, other people, the skin is being stretched, from one side of the head to the other side. "A shorter section."
The shorter section is made thinner, because there is less skin to cover the distance of the stretch.

The blood vessels are different at the heart, than anywhere else in the body. This is the reason plaque will only build up around the heart, and no where else. That is why people do not get leg artery bypasses, arm artery bypasses, only heart bypasses.

Science, if anyone thinks for two seconds that science does not already know, and have a cure for baldness. Your wrong. They do know, and they are not putting it out there.

There is something on the inside of the veins that is different from the top of the head, as to the side of the head. The DHT cannot block the hairs on the side of the head, because the interior of the veins on the side of the head have a substance on the interior wall, that the top of the head veins no longer have. The DHT cannot bond with the interior of the vein, the DHT passes right along, without sticking to the interior wall.

This is why thermal imaging of the top of a bald persons head is different than someone that isn't bald. The blood flow is different, due to a type of blockage. It is not plaque, like that found around the heart. It is a different substance, am not sure what.

If I worked in the science field, I can definitely say this. I would know what the substance that is missing, the substance that does not allow the DHT to stick to the interior lining of the vein. This is why, I know, Science already knows, they are just not saying.
 

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Said it before and I'll say it again. There is nothing simple about hairloss. We would be a lot closer to producing immortal humans than we are right now if we could truly understand how the human genome expresses male pattern baldness in prone individuals. There is nothing simple about this even though the end result is just tiny strands of keratin.
 

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Said it before and I'll say it again. There is nothing simple about hairloss. We would be a lot closer to producing immortal humans than we are right now if we could truly understand how the human genome expresses male pattern baldness in prone individuals. There is nothing simple about this even though the end result is just tiny strands of keratin.

They already have a cure. They are not letting anyone know. Take a look at the actors that are in their forties and fifties, and their hair health. A person does not get that from eating this or that, using minoxidil.
The solution is simple, and science already knows.

Take a look at a tree, its roots go for water. Hair is no different, it goes for the blood supply. The hair on the side of the heads is on the head, just as the hairs on the top of the head. The only difference in the follicle getting to the blood supply, is something is in the veins on the top of the head, that is preventing the follicle from getting to the supply.
The sides of the heads, the follicle has no problem feeding from the supply.

This is basic, common sense. I am results oriented, and the people doing the studies have not given anything, everybody didn't already know fifty years ago. Amino Acids, Keratin, Females don't have male pattern baldness, therefore Estrogen, Testosterone.
This was all known fifty years ago. It is in the veins, something is in the vein that allows another substance to stick to the interior wall of the vein. That substance is what is preventing the hair from growing.
 
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