Social Drawbacks To Being An Incel ( Not Only Relationship )

Baldingat188

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Obviously losing the genetic lottery is going to affect your chances with dating , but something I feel like that gets over looked is the fact that as an unattractive person I have a harder time making friends as well. I'm not sure how much of it is mental and how much of it is physical. I've always thought I could have aspergers or something like that which is part of the reason I am an incel , the other part being my physical appearance (hairloss) and height. But even so , aspergers is still something you are born with - another symptom of bad genetics.

I hate to sound like one of those Facebook post that attention seeking girls make but , it gets lonely to live this life. I'm not attractive enough that I get approached and the few friends I have had always end up moving on or drifting a part. I am not a depressing person to be around ( I don't talk like this in real life).

Does anyone here have a good social life? I'm not sure why that is so hard to accomplish but it seems if I can never keep or make friends , not to mention get dates or that kind of stuff. I am just so tired of being stuck in this body and screwed over on life before I was even born. I always just obsess how much better my life would be with good genes
 

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I have huge social circle, whilst I'm sure it's harder to make friends if you're unattractive it's far from impossible. Plenty of ugly dudes who are as much mates to me as the attractive ones.

Halo effect is real, but it's no excuse not to be able to have mates.
 

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I have huge social circle, whilst I'm sure it's harder to make friends if you're unattractive it's far from impossible. Plenty of ugly dudes who are as much mates to me as the attractive ones.

Halo effect is real, but it's no excuse not to be able to have mates.

I remember a torture being next to my goodlooking tall friend in a club. The girls flocked him while I was an invisible subhuman.

What are your thoughts when seeing a cutie with unattractive/fat female friend?

"Mates", lol.
 

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Obviously losing the genetic lottery is going to affect your chances with dating , but something I feel like that gets over looked is the fact that as an unattractive person I have a harder time making friends as well. I'm not sure how much of it is mental and how much of it is physical. I've always thought I could have aspergers or something like that which is part of the reason I am an incel , the other part being my physical appearance (hairloss) and height. But even so , aspergers is still something you are born with - another symptom of bad genetics.

I hate to sound like one of those Facebook post that attention seeking girls make but , it gets lonely to live this life. I'm not attractive enough that I get approached and the few friends I have had always end up moving on or drifting a part. I am not a depressing person to be around ( I don't talk like this in real life).

Does anyone here have a good social life? I'm not sure why that is so hard to accomplish but it seems if I can never keep or make friends , not to mention get dates or that kind of stuff. I am just so tired of being stuck in this body and screwed over on life before I was even born. I always just obsess how much better my life would be with good genes
It's the Halo effect. People admire and adore good-looking people and they think they're better at everything in life compared to ugly people. Like when they respect tall guys and think they are always stronger than short guys no matter what (it isn't true).
 

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In some cases better opportunities are found being a lone wolf. Maybe you don't look like you think you should look so just go out and get in the game. One didn't work out, move on. It's a probability exercise. College campus is the corral, find a nerd, cut her out of the herd and score, Brother!
 

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It's the Halo effect. People admire and adore good-looking people and they think they're better at everything in life compared to ugly people. Like when they respect tall guys and think they are always stronger than short guys no matter what (it isn't true).

That's true. It's a proven fact, that usually good looking people have more friends and actually do better at life than ugly ones.

Short guys are probably usually stronger than tall guys, because they have more protein/muscle mass for their height than
taller ones do. In fact shorter guys probably have a better testosterone body ration than smaller guys do.
 

Baldingat188

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That's true. It's a proven fact, that usually good looking people have more friends and actually do better at life than ugly ones.

Short guys are probably usually stronger than tall guys, because they have more protein/muscle mass for their height than
taller ones do. In fact shorter guys probably have a better testosterone body ration than smaller guys do.

I'm short but skinny and I feel like I have feminine genetics. I hardly have any body hair so idk why my hair is thinning, I hate the argument that bald guys have more testerone aka bald bad ***. Hell no im like 14 year old body with thinning hair ...
 

Baldingat188

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In some cases better opportunities are found being a lone wolf. Maybe you don't look like you think you should look so just go out and get in the game. One didn't work out, move on. It's a probability exercise. College campus is the corral, find a nerd, cut her out of the herd and score, Brother!

I do like being a lone wolf. I spend plenty of time by myself and do not depend on people. That being said , it's nice to be able to have some friends to hang out with when I want to , and I don't really have that.
 

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Same for not having a lookstmatched girlfriend.

But I guess even ugly men feel entitled to an average girlfriend.

As a male, your only chance is to increase the quality of the mates you can attract is to increase your status.

And there are plenty of ways to do that.

Definitely RIP 2015 WhitePolarBear.

I missed your posts, always entertaining lol.

How do you suggest increasing quality or making social circles? Maybe I'm just to socially retarded to do so , idk. Somehow it seems like people always tend to avoid me
 

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I'm short but skinny and I feel like I have feminine genetics. I hardly have any body hair so idk why my hair is thinning, I hate the argument that bald guys have more testerone aka bald bad ***. Hell no im like 14 year old body with thinning hair ...

I said short guys probably have a higher testosterone range.

Not only that, shorter guys look like they have a bigger package.

I'm freakishly tall (near seven feet), but I have an "average" (I'm being kind to myself, it is smaller than average) plumbing parts.

That makes me look small. But penis surgery is no where near what breast surgery is.

Women can make their boobs smaller or larger, if they want.

We can only give our penises girth, and cannot make them bigger. We can either have a "can" sized penis,
or remain small.
 

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I remember a torture being next to my goodlooking tall friend in a club. The girls flocked him while I was an invisible subhuman.

What are your thoughts when seeing a cutie with unattractive/fat female friend?

"Mates", lol.

What are my thoughts when my 8/10 mate gets 15 cute matches a day and fucks a new hottie each week?

What are my thoughts when my near 10/10 mate fucked a new girl every day in Santa Ponza and has a slay count of over 300?

What are my thoughts when my good looking mates seem to naturally befriend girls and get on better with them at every step?

Jealousy, sometimes anger and sadness. They are.still my mates though.

But I don't get your point. Of course I think I'd love.to f*** the cutie and not.the fatty. How is this relevant to the topic at hand?
 

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What are my thoughts when my 8/10 mate gets 15 cute matches a day and fucks a new hottie each week?

What are my thoughts when my near 10/10 mate fucked a new girl every day in Santa Ponza and has a slay count of over 300?

What are my thoughts when my good looking mates seem to naturally befriend girls and get on better with them at every step?

Jealousy, sometimes anger and sadness. They are.still my mates though.

But I don't get your point. Of course I think I'd love.to f*** the cutie and not.the fatty. How is this relevant to the topic at hand?

you missed a point
 

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Definitely RIP 2015 WhitePolarBear.


He will be dearly missed.

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Its almost entirely dependent on where you live.

Stop blaming your looks, and realise you don't have the personality and charisma to be mega popular with loads of friends.


Looks this, that. There are plenty of loner handsome men who are introverts as such there are lots of mediocre normies with tons of friends.



P-E-R-S-O-N-A-L-I-T-Y

Looks is the blue print for mate selection, and nothing more. As a metrosexual man who's straight I dont care about hanging out with good looking men who belong to my same niche. perhaps in high school it mattered, but nowadays and after my teenage years I hung out with people with similar interests to my own.
 

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When I'm hatfishing and chatting with newish people its easier to remember how to act more like how I was before I started extensively balding and made the friends I mostly still have, like I was a more extroverted and not draining to others from obsessive self-doubt kind of person. I've became more awkward paranoid after enough times of catching their eyes staring at my hairline coincidentally during first impressions I thought were not going as well as they used to. Then I remember why I wore a hat....
Norwood watch is one helluva trip
 

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Its almost entirely dependent on where you live.

Stop blaming your looks, and realise you don't have the personality and charisma to be mega popular with loads of friends.


Looks this, that. There are plenty of loner handsome men who are introverts as such there are lots of mediocre normies with tons of friends.



P-E-R-S-O-N-A-L-I-T-Y

Looks is the blue print for mate selection, and nothing more. As a metrosexual man who's straight I dont care about hanging out with good looking men who belong to my same niche. perhaps in high school it mattered, but nowadays and after my teenage years I hung out with people with similar interests to my own.

There's a lot of truth to this but I think it overlooks the fact that being unattractive is still an uphill battle in every way, just as being attractive is a downhill free ride that can be difficult to f*** up.

An ugly or even average guy has to be impressionable for people to want to be with socially, when there's no clear visible signs that this is a person you want to be known to know, then subconsciously you don't want to know them socially unless you're positively manipulated otherwise.

An attractive guy will automatically attract such social attention as he already has a social standing above an average person. Many traits in his personality are already unattainable for a less attractive man, for example, by simply being normal and not arrogant, he is therefore humble. By simply not being a self-obsessed hack, as it is assumed he could very well be, because of his social status as attractive, he is adorned a positive quality, by doing absolutely nothing.

For an average guy to be humble he needs to have achieved things, he's in a band, skateboards, travels, and barely mentions it. For an ugly guy, multiply more of these positive attributes with each other (for example a top class degree, multi-lingual, published writer, DJ), and if he doesn't brag about these achievements, he is then humble.

For those endless hours of work, he achieves the same status as a handsome man, who simply doesn't brag about how many chicks are on his phone. The only way the handsome man can f*** this free ride up is by being a total social retard, either by bragging or being obnoxiously introverted.

I know plenty of guys with this "free ride" who really have absolutely nothing to them, but because they aren't instantly obnoxious, are embraced by people around them. I even have good friends that I like, who from time-to-time kind of hate the aforementioned typical good looking friend, because they simply wouldn't hang around with them unless status is involved.

And let's not forget that females, sex, and a love life is imperative among the alpha males out there, which represent a considerable amount of the targeted social market, not the majority by any means but most importantly, carry the most influential weight.

This is simply a harsh truth, but by being incel or mainly romantically un-involved with anyone most of the time, you are seen as weird by alpha males, they can't relate to this and see you as questionable in different ways. Possibly homosexual, possibly a paedophile, or maybe some weird otherkin thing they've read about and laughed at.

Being ugly cuts out a lot of social opportunities with these types which can be vital, that's not to say it's the end of it, but you definitely don't have that accessibility to the top of the social food chain.

Your "in's" come a lot lower than that, and your impressionability will decide on your survival with those "in's", and the moments you rub shoulders with the higher ups may decide if those previous bonds with the "in's" are suddenly broken.
 

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I have huge social circle, whilst I'm sure it's harder to make friends if you're unattractive it's far from impossible. Plenty of ugly dudes who are as much mates to me as the attractive ones.

Halo effect is real, but it's no excuse not to be able to have mates.
Most "mates" can't wait for the right opportunity to put the knife in or throw you straight under the bus.
The bastards!
 
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