Someone explain to me how dutasteride doesn't cause frontal thinning...*PIC INCLUDED

[Rawtashk]

no, upping Finasteride dose won't make it work any better I'm afraid

there is spironolactone cream

I wouldn't say this is completely true. People all over the boards will say ".5mg is good enough. It's basically a flat response rate from .3 up to 5mg". I was on it at .5mg for 3 years, then upped it to 1.25mg. I noticed some really good regrowth going from .5mg to 1.25mg. But, I would say that for sure it all depends on the person.

 

[Quantum Cat]

The OP was asking if upping to 2.5mg would help

0.5mg up to about 1.5mg may make a difference. But anything above 1.5 is pretty pointless, as shown by the flat curve on the graph.

 

[paulsteel0]

I wouldn't say this is completely true. People all over the boards will say ".5mg is good enough. It's basically a flat response rate from .3 up to 5mg". I was on it at .5mg for 3 years, then upped it to 1.25mg. I noticed some really good regrowth going from .5mg to 1.25mg. But, I would say that for sure it all depends on the person.

I totallly agree, I went from 1mg to 0.75mg and in 7 weeks I had lost quite a bit of head in the mid scalp area. I moved back to 1mg and within a month or two it came back. For me 0.25mg made a big difference. That's why i actually ended up going up another 0.25 to 1.25mg. That's what I'm wondering about 2.5mg because according to the dose response curve, and I've seen the graoph, something that dramatic shouldn't have happened.

 

[hitmeback28]

Have the exact same balding pattern. It's diffuse thinning.

 

[adam1987]

This is a good topic you have going here, I have been on dutasteride every other day (0.25mg) for about a month now just tesing the waters and see what reaction I would get, apparently those that stabled there hair on a lesser dose took longer for dutasteride to take effect...some said as much as 6 months....there is the route those have had some success on which is to go in at 1.5mg a day for 10 days and try and blast your DHT out of the park and then lower the dose, but I think that's risky when you don't know how your body will respond, especially on a higher dose. As warlord said earlier in his post, you must get a blood test asap whilst on something to see if it is having any effect, then you will know what your up against, its basically trial and error. Regarding dosage, I think its best you start small, I don't think going straight to 1.5mg is a good idea, I know some get a good response, but you have to be careful. Sadly I will probably have to spend money on 3 blood tests to see what happens with me on dutasteride at different stages and react accordingly depending on my results. Good luck bud. Hang in there.

 

[paulsteel0]

Have the exact same balding pattern. It's diffuse thinning.

How are you holdin' up?

 

[squeegee]

I don't know. You say dutasteride is poison, others here say it's helped them keep their hair without any side effects. I definitely think you should always start off with finasteride. In theory dutasteride should work better as it blocks nearly all of Type II 5ar.

also how can you say minoxidil is better than internal DHT-blockers? You can use as much rogaine as you want, it won't stop you balding...

People have more success on finasteride in the first place. dutasteride is overrated. finasteride without Rogaine is pretty much useless. I don't post much in this section of the forum because it is always the same same.. dutasteride destroyed my hairline back in the days.. I had 0 dth left in my body....LOL I ovedosed on it.. then went back on normal dose... then decided that dutasteride was the biggest crap to ever hit the market after being on it for almost a year. I had zero sides with finasteride.. but with dutasteride was a different story... Anyways you better off with finasteride and don't be shy to overdose on Minoxidil.. it is dirt cheap on egay.. minoxidil mimic Nitric Oxide and lower the Cytochrome p450 enzymes which converts cholesterol into DHT.

 

[Quantum Cat]

if you had a bad experience with dutasteride, doesn't mean that everyone will, especially as you 'overdosed' on it.

finasteride without Rogaine is pretty much useless. .

garbage. I've maintained my hair with finasteride for 5 years and I've never put a drop of minoxidil on my head.

 

[squeegee]

if you had a bad experience with dutasteride, doesn't mean that everyone will, especially as you 'overdosed' on it.




garbage. I've maintained my hair with finasteride for 5 years and I've never put a drop of minoxidil on my head.

There is a big difference between maintaining your hairline and regrowth BTW. I am talking about regrowing hair. Most people on here wants there hairline restored. I did overdose on it then got back on normal dose.. then small dose.. dutasteride is ****ing poison and the FDA is evil. Do you know why they call it the big three? They all have the same goal.. lowering the P450 enzymes so your ****ing hair get back on the normal cycle. Most of you guys on here on treatments don't have a slight clue about what the do to you body. You need DHT to properly function as a male unless you wanna turn into a weak pussy.. Are you a weak pussy Quantum Cat?

 

[Quantum Cat]

There is a big difference between maintaining your hairline and regrowth BTW. I am talking about regrowing hair. Most people on here wants there hairline restored. I did overdose on it then got back on normal dose.. then small dose.. dutasteride is ****ing poison and the FDA is evil. Do you know why they call it the big three? They all have the same goal.. lowering the P450 enzymes so your ****ing hair get back on the normal cycle. Most of you guys on here on treatments don't have a slight clue about what the do to you body. You need DHT to properly function as a male unless you wanna turn into a weak pussy.. Are you a weak pussy Quantum Cat?

:roll:

mmmm...you're coming across as really rational here... The mild hysteria and crazy ranting make you sound like a Propeciahelper...


The FDA has never even licensed dutasteride for hairloss, what have they got to do with it?

You need DHT to properly function as a male

a theory widely bandied around these forums, mainly by the anti-Propecia brigade, but never been conclusively proven and AFAIK not accepted by mainstream medical science.

Are you a weak pussy Quantum Cat?[/

I am a cat, but not weak - I took down a pitbull terrier last week

 

[squeegee]

:roll:

mmmm...you're coming across as really rational here... The mild hysteria and crazy ranting make you sound like a Propeciahelper...


The FDA has never even licensed dutasteride for hairloss, what have they got to do with it?





a theory widely bandied around these forums, mainly by the anti-Propecia brigade, but never been conclusively proven and AFAIK not accepted by mainstream medical science.




I am a cat, but not weak - I took down a pitbull terrier last week

That **** is still prescribed off label for male pattern baldness.. Propecia helper.. no thanks man.. don't need to be tagged with a bunch of losers complaining about their weak dicks .. They should learned about the function of DHT in the first place.. I can think for myself and tell that dutasteride should not be considered for hairloss treatments. finasteride is more effective and doesn't restrain your functions as much like dutasteride does. That **** is designed for BPH but increased risk of high-grade prostate cancer LOL. Add to this birth defects and others side effects. You really want to swallow pills that can cause birth defects????????

 

[HITMANSPARADISE]

dutasteride absolutely destroys finasteride in regards to maintenance and regrowth (proven by studies) anyway this entire dutasteride destroying the hair line is a myth started by fear mongers. I know people who have restored their hair line on the drug, the same can't be said about finasteride. End of story.

 

[Quantum Cat]

dutasteride absolutely destroys finasteride in regards to maintenance and regrowth (proven by studies) anyway this entire dutasteride destroying the hair line is a myth started by fear mongers. I know people who have restored their hair line on the drug, the same can't be said about finasteride. End of story.

can you link to these studies? I would expect dutasteride to be generally more effective than finasteride, but the possibility of stronger side effects might outweigh the benefits

 

[squeegee]

dutasteride absolutely destroys finasteride in regards to maintenance and regrowth (proven by studies) anyway this entire dutasteride destroying the hair line is a myth started by fear mongers. I know people who have restored their hair line on the drug, the same can't be said about finasteride. End of story.

Fear mongers? End of story? We were born with all different genetic makeup and our response to dutasteride can be different. Taking dutasteride is like gambling with your hair and health. finasteride is more reliable and has more studies , real world success to prove it. Keep telling yourself that dutasteride is better!

 

[HITMANSPARADISE]

No I don't believe that ****. DHT destroys hair. DUTASTERIDE destroys DHT way more effectively than finasteride. That's all there is to it. Whoever is claiming that they lost hair on dutasteride (or that it somehow made it worse) is getting bunk pills.

 

[paulsteel0]

No I don't believe that ****. DHT destroys hair. DUTASTERIDE destroys DHT way more effectively than finasteride. That's all there is to it.

That was kind of my reasoning when I started the pill but it didn't work so well for me. The fact it raises scalp testosterone over 100% is possibly something to muse about. That's significant in my opinion.

In the South Korean studies dutasteride regrew hair a bit faster than finasteride but didn't actually regrow that much more hair than finasteride users ultimately. Even though it blocks 20% more DHT. So it's not exactly a super drug compared to finasteride but I'm glad it's out there I'm happy that it works for some people just not in the cards for me.

 

[squeegee]

No I don't believe that ****. DHT destroys hair. DUTASTERIDE destroys DHT way more effectively than finasteride. That's all there is to it. Whoever is claiming that they lost hair on dutasteride (or that it somehow made it worse) is getting bunk pills.

This is why I don't post in this section very often. You are just another brainless poster. Avodart is a dual 5α-reductase inhibitors which is really complex and affects the whole steroid metabolites. I took both finasteride and dutasteride on a long term period with different doses and I can honestly say that dutasteride is **** ( my head was oily as **** and lost a ****load of frontal hair in the progress.. also had crazy side effects.. was weak as **** at the gym as well.. People taking it on long term contract are really dumb.

 

[paulsteel0]

This is why I don't post in this section very often. You are just another brainless poster. Avodart is a dual 5α-reductase inhibitors which is really complex and affects the whole steroid metabolites. I took both finasteride and dutasteride on a long term period with different doses and I can honestly say that dutasteride is **** ( my head was oily as **** and lost a ****load of frontal hair in the progress.. also have crazy side effects.. was weak as **** as the gym as well.. People taking it on long term contract are really dumb.

It messes with your junk for sure. They are actually doing some preliminary trials I read somewhere I think from Dr. Rassman's blog that are using Avodart as a way to temporarily sterilize males.

 

[paulsteel0]

Okay update the hair situation seems to have stabilized and improved a bit but I don't know it will improve much more. I'm hoping though it's stable. Has anyone had it where some of their aggressive hair loss went on them while on finasteride but after that went out on them they stayed stable for a time on the drug?

 

[talmoode]

I am a member of another hair loss forum and there are some people there taking dutasteride + finasteride + oral minoxidl + some digestive supplement (why?) daily. I forgot what doses they were taking.