SOS...trying to find a new hair system + product reviews

[GordonShumway]

Hi everybody,

SOS
Thanks to the good people here, 4 month ago I've ordered a system from LordHair -
The service was excellent and fast, and the unit it self was the best I've ever had.
It had a thin skin perimeter, a "fuzzy" hair with authentic look that allowed a short natural haircut, and 5% grey that added to the natural look.
Being stupid as I am sometimes ‍:\ I did not order another one immediately.
Now it's out of stock, ordering a custom unit will take 3-5 month but my current unit wont last that long.
So, I'm asking if you guys can maybe help me find the closest to it and/or a supplier that can send a custom unit in 1 month or so.

Main features (also see pic attached):
Super thin skin perimeter - wide enough to use tape (I cant use glue) + Lace base.
Hair curl/wave 30mm.
5-10% grey hair.
Medium brown.
Medium density.

Reviews
I feel ungrateful that I just take from you, without giving back.
So thanks to the great guys here I have ordered some products and I want to contribute my reviews.


Walker Ultra Hold Tape Mini - Excellent product, highly recommended!
Vapon no tape - Usually tape holds 6-8 days for me (really oily skin), Vapon lasted only 3-4 days -
Walker MaxHold scalp protector – Great affect, added approx. 2 days of dry scalp and better confidence doing sport activities Yet, I didn't try any other scalp protector and
would be very happy if one of you can say that there is a better alternative.
LordHair – As I said, excellent service, quick delivery, excellent value for money.

 

[BaldBearded]

Nobody is going to get you a custom system in less than 2 months. However, you can get a premade with #210, in medium density. You might have to go with all skin.

 

[yurguardianangel]

NewLaceCU do hybrid, full lace and poly bases. But mostly stock systems.

Youtuber Hair System DIY uses them and seems to love them. I might try one out myself.

 

[HairlessWhisper]

Wow, Alf! Your experience with Lordhair sounds like the complete polar opposite of mine

Have you checked with their 'sister' company, NewTimes Hair? Some of their pieces are knotted in the same factory. I've avoided NewTimes Hair myself for this reason, of course.

 

[notsohairymon]

I have not been on here in two years when I explored going from concealers to a DYI system. I didn't change then as I had trouble doing DYI (I had ordered a couple relatively inexpensive systems and even sent one to be cut and customized by Debbie in Maine, a place the guy at Northwest Hair recommended (more on this later)) and then with COVID and all the issues with getting custom systems because of it (and the fact that I was working from home and it wasn't as important) I kept my concealer routine until now. Ironically the Northwest Hair guy (Eric?) was honest with me and told me I should invest in a salon like Debbie for awhile (she is in Maine but gets people from as far away as the NYC area who have the dough to fly to her for maintenance). But although my financial situation was improving at the time (and still is) I didn't feel I could afford anything like that especially locally where it's a little more expensive (I live near NYC).

I say this because I am back into looking into this for various reasons and starting exploring this forum. What happened this time is I looked into salons that do custom in my area (NYC and just north of it) and found a place that while somewhat expensive, also has a excellent rep including out of towners coming to her as well, also a lot of Wall Streeters from the suburbs go there. When I visited her, she told me she could turn (her definition of, again more later) custom around in a month or less even now with COVID as I believe she has everything done either in Italy or actually here in the USA and not in Asian countries. If you have a really big budget she even does 3-D printed custom (supposedly with that besides super customization you can go a year or more without changing systems), but I went for the low end which is almost exactly the kind of piece you describe. I don't know how "custom" it really is but I went through all the special measurements I had to try and do myself last time. I do want to note that anything beyond what I did has a turnaround time much greater. You have to wait 4 months or so for the 3-D printed one for example but the cost of that is not too far below a transplant so it ain't cheap. For what I am doing the brand they use is XTS.

I went at the beginning of July and was told I could be "ready" by the end of the month but I will be out of town next week and it is going on me in early August. So if you live anywhere in the Northeast US (she claims to even have some non-US customers and people from other parts of the US) you may want to check out the following:

Unique Hair Concepts
545 Saw Mill River Road #1A
Ardsley, NY 10502
(914) 412-7700

NYC Hair Restoration | Unique Hair Concepts NYC's Hair Loss Specialist

Unique Hair Concepts is a hair restoration studio in the NYC area including Manhattan, Queens, Bronx, White Plains Scarsdale, etc that offers comprehensive solutions.

www.uniquehairconcepts.com

Ask for Fiona Fuentes. Like most salons, they are closed on Sundays and Monday. Like how they are very discreet being hidden in an office building. And she did not try to "sell me" at all, in fact even initially discouraged me in many ways at first so I wouldn't be disappointed which was not true at all at the other 3 shops I went to (including one I could walk to from where I live that also has a good rep and that my father went to decades ago but I didn't like....seemed to try to upsell too much). Good luck and hope that helps!

 

[Pokey654]

it’s Flora Fuentes not Fiona! I actually wore a CNC hair system and it’s overrated. You cannot get a hairline with a CNC hair system. Lift the unit up and the front of the unit and the hairs do not look like they are growing out of the front hairline at all.

CNC also has limited ways of putting on the system. Only one to three day hold tape and glue.

I am new here guys and have been wearing a CNC system for three years and it is an overrated joke system, so this was a great way to introduce myself.

I want to start getting into lace and poly units as they can produce great frontal hairlines from what I seen and give you way more choices how to put them on and wear them. I am looking into lace too, yet very few companies in the US are producing them because of Covid. I am going to need help so thanks for helping me break into this forum.

I am now shaving my head and CNC is the worst hair system as the piece itches like crazy and no front hairline.

I will need help and one thing I need is a mail order company that is making lace that is priced good.

Thanks and am thrilled to join this forum with very knowledgeable and helpful people from what I read these past few weeks.

 

[notsohairymon]

it’s Flora Fuentes not Fiona! I actually wore a CNC hair system and it’s overrated. You cannot get a hairline with a CNC hair system. Lift the unit up and the front of the unit and the hairs do not look like they are growing out of the front hairline at all.

CNC also has limited ways of putting on the system. Only one to three day hold tape and glue.

I am new here guys and have been wearing a CNC system for three years and it is an overrated joke system, so this was a great way to introduce myself.

I want to start getting into lace and poly units as they can produce great frontal hairlines from what I seen and give you way more choices how to put them on and wear them. I am looking into lace too, yet very few companies in the US are producing them because of Covid. I am going to need help so thanks for helping me break into this forum.

I am now shaving my head and CNC is the worst hair system as the piece itches like crazy and no front hairline.

I will need help and one thing I need is a mail order company that is making lace that is priced good.

Thanks and am thrilled to join this forum with very knowledgeable and helpful people from what I read these past few weeks.

Autocorrect doing this on my phone and didn't catch that, I knew it was Flora, sorry. Anyway, thanks for the info on CNC and welcome to the forum.

 

[GordonShumway]

NewLaceCU do hybrid, full lace and poly bases. But mostly stock systems.

Youtuber Hair System DIY uses them and seems to love them. I might try one out myself.

Hi, thanks! It looks good, but I can't find reviews about them, that's odd!
Do you or anybody u know have experience with them?

10X!

 

[GordonShumway]

Nobody is going to get you a custom system in less than 2 months. However, you can get a premade with #210, in medium density. You might have to go with all skin.

Hi BB, actually some of the products I've ordered were your recommendation - so thanks for everything you contribute here, highly appreciated!
(p.s - I can't do all skin, only tape for me, glue is too messy, too short hold, too itchy, can't see my self using all skin)

10X

 

[AxC123]

I have not been on here in two years when I explored going from concealers to a DYI system. I didn't change then as I had trouble doing DYI (I had ordered a couple relatively inexpensive systems and even sent one to be cut and customized by Debbie in Maine, a place the guy at Northwest Hair recommended (more on this later)) and then with COVID and all the issues with getting custom systems because of it (and the fact that I was working from home and it wasn't as important) I kept my concealer routine until now. Ironically the Northwest Hair guy (Eric?) was honest with me and told me I should invest in a salon like Debbie for awhile (she is in Maine but gets people from as far away as the NYC area who have the dough to fly to her for maintenance). But although my financial situation was improving at the time (and still is) I didn't feel I could afford anything like that especially locally where it's a little more expensive (I live near NYC).

I say this because I am back into looking into this for various reasons and starting exploring this forum. What happened this time is I looked into salons that do custom in my area (NYC and just north of it) and found a place that while somewhat expensive, also has a excellent rep including out of towners coming to her as well, also a lot of Wall Streeters from the suburbs go there. When I visited her, she told me she could turn (her definition of, again more later) custom around in a month or less even now with COVID as I believe she has everything done either in Italy or actually here in the USA and not in Asian countries. If you have a really big budget she even does 3-D printed custom (supposedly with that besides super customization you can go a year or more without changing systems), but I went for the low end which is almost exactly the kind of piece you describe. I don't know how "custom" it really is but I went through all the special measurements I had to try and do myself last time. I do want to note that anything beyond what I did has a turnaround time much greater. You have to wait 4 months or so for the 3-D printed one for example but the cost of that is not too far below a transplant so it ain't cheap. For what I am doing the brand they use is XTS.

I went at the beginning of July and was told I could be "ready" by the end of the month but I will be out of town next week and it is going on me in early August. So if you live anywhere in the Northeast US (she claims to even have some non-US customers and people from other parts of the US) you may want to check out the following:

Unique Hair Concepts
545 Saw Mill River Road #1A
Ardsley, NY 10502
(914) 412-7700

NYC Hair Restoration | Unique Hair Concepts NYC's Hair Loss Specialist

Unique Hair Concepts is a hair restoration studio in the NYC area including Manhattan, Queens, Bronx, White Plains Scarsdale, etc that offers comprehensive solutions.

www.uniquehairconcepts.com

Ask for Fiona Fuentes. Like most salons, they are closed on Sundays and Monday. Like how they are very discreet being hidden in an office building. And she did not try to "sell me" at all, in fact even initially discouraged me in many ways at first so I wouldn't be disappointed which was not true at all at the other 3 shops I went to (including one I could walk to from where I live that also has a good rep and that my father went to decades ago but I didn't like....seemed to try to upsell too much). Good luck and hope that helps!

Got curious about your post and this company. Researched and seems marketing hype...their xts and UHC pieces seem like plain thinskin. Possibly reason you can get it in 4 weeks. As for the 3d high end system, well its a customized poly unit. Nothing special except it injected in italy.
More here

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[Pokey654]

I may be wrong, but Unique Hair Concepts XTS system is not made in Italy from what I know. I know Unique has the CNC and generic Unique Hair Concepts CNC that is made in Florence Italy not Milan like the official CNC hair system. The XTS is made in a China factory from what I remember the stylist Albert telling me so I think your wrong there.

Anyway glad I am free from that horrible CNC hair system and look forward to real skin systems that give you a hairline and do not feel like a suction cup when you press in the middle of your head which CNC hair system do.

 

[AxC123]

I may be wrong, but Unique Hair Concepts XTS system is not made in Italy from what I know. I know Unique has the CNC and generic Unique Hair Concepts CNC that is made in Florence Italy not Milan like the official CNC hair system. The XTS is made in a China factory from what I remember the stylist Albert telling me so I think your wrong there.

Anyway glad I am free from that horrible CNC hair system and look forward to real skin systems that give you a hairline and do not feel like a suction cup when you press in the middle of your head which CNC hair system do.

That's what i was trying to say, XTS regular thinskin... The high end CNC seems like the only one made in Italy, Bologna according to the youtube video published by the company

 

[Noah]

If I'm not mistaken CNC is the place that makes a big deal about creating the base with a 3-D printer. That has always struck me as something pretty close to a scam - promoting your product as the solution to a non-existent problem for the purpose of blinding inexperienced buyers with pseudo-science.

 

[BaldBearded]

If I'm not mistaken CNC is the place that makes a big deal about creating the base with a 3-D printer. That has always struck me as something pretty close to a scam - promoting your product as the solution to a non-existent problem for the purpose of blinding inexperienced buyers with pseudo-science.

Cesare Ragazzi Laboratories

Yep... sounds like a scam to me.

 

[Pokey654]

Yes it is Bologna Italy for the official CNC hair system, but she has a generic one she makes for maybe $1000.00 less I think she said it’s made in Florence Italy, it was 3 years ago and I choose the official and it was $5000.00 and that just for one unit. Let me repeat that ONE UNIT. The unit has NO HAIRLINE, had to wear it down all the time and when I look at the guys online with the Swiss lace and poly units, they can wear there hair back, with the CNC you really cannot wear your hair back and from the very front you get no hairline just a wall of hair that does not show its growing out of your scalp. Itches like crazy. You have only two ways of wearing pick A glue which will last for 2 weeks and you have to go back for a fitting, the only way is tape but the only tape that works on CNC holds for one to three days, and that was there red tape.

When I complained about the itching they told me I probably had a skin condition as there glue was FDA compliant. She told me just use the tape but I usually had to take it off at night and wanted something more permanent. They only have one brand of glue that is used on the CNC hair system. Not much help to me at least how I experienced it. Right now shaving my head but want to try a hybrid unit this fall and will need help and this forum seems very helpful.

Plan on growing my hair back in this September and wearing hopefully a lace system but see the bad Covid has done but hopefully in the fall things will get better.

 

[AxC123]

WOW, that's a lot.
And as i said, marketing hype...no use of have a biomedical, hypoallergenic, antifungal and antimicrobial base if they use glues to attach LOL.

You will get great info here. There is a search function for this forum or just ask away.

 

[Noah]

... she said it’s made in Florence Italy, it was 3 years ago and I choose the official and it was $5000.00 and that just for one unit. Let me repeat that ONE UNIT.

At that price it must be Giorgio Armani knotting them himself during his lunch hour.

 

[notsohairymon]

I may be wrong, but Unique Hair Concepts XTS system is not made in Italy from what I know. I know Unique has the CNC and generic Unique Hair Concepts CNC that is made in Florence Italy not Milan like the official CNC hair system. The XTS is made in a China factory from what I remember the stylist Albert telling me so I think your wrong there.

Anyway glad I am free from that horrible CNC hair system and look forward to real skin systems that give you a hairline and do not feel like a suction cup when you press in the middle of your head which CNC hair system do.

Correct, UHC/XTS is a standard skin unit that gets cut after the fact and is not from Italy, I have no idea where it's from, I would normally assume China but when I asked her that and if corona is thus affecting getting them she said no, but said it's not from Italy like the others. As you said, it's the CNC that is from Italy and is the one that is ridiculously expensive. Ironically, even she tried to shy me away from CNC and the 3-D stuff but at that price point I would've never considered them anyway.

 

[BaldBearded]

At that price it must be Giorgio Armani knotting them himself during his lunch hour.

Quite the feat at 87 years of age!