spironolactone Shampoo Saved My Hair..

[SpiroSavedMe]

MooGoo shampoo.

Its Aussie made, so its easy to obtain. I bought it.

I crushed 100 tablets into powder form. I don't have any high tech fancy sh*t to crush it.. basically I put the tablets in a bag and hammered it and hammered it till it became dust.

Then I opened the moogoo bottle.. threw it in... got a kebab skewer and stirred it crazy. Then used it every day.

All I know is the shits working.. My hairs thicker. It's obvious. No side effects.

As for how the sh*t works.. See I look at it this way.. I was using this cream for a rash I had, and the doctor explained the cream has only minutes to penetrate the skin before it dries, so I should keep the area clean so it can penetrate in those few minutes. Then I thought, well thats probably how the shampoo is workin for me.. the sh*t has like 5 mins to penetrate, and being in the shower my scalps the cleanest and the water delivers it or some sh*t.. could be that, who fkn knows.

Anyways.. enjoy.

 

[hellohello]

awesome where did u get the spironolactone tablets from?

 

[SpiroSavedMe]

f*** me drunk I didn't come on here to hold a conference.

read the first post man.

 

[hellohello]

sory

 

[ugh]

Sounds almost too good to be true...Whaddya guys think?

 

[Bertie]

Spironolactone has very poor solubility in water, and water is the main ingredient in every shampoo I've ever heard of --
http://www.drugs.com/pro/spironolactone.html

So I don't know how your spironolactone is even dissolving. Shampoo does sometimes contain things like alcohol (in which spironolactone is soluble) and probably other ingredients that dissolve it as well, but the concentration of such ingredients is probably very relevant to whether your spironolactone will dissolve in there.

 

[CCS]

They use the least irritating foamer of all: capric glucoside.
They use piroctame olamine, and anti-oxidant and edible disinfectant that grows hair as well as keto in nizoral.
Cheap: $9 for 500mL. That is like 3 bottles of nizoral.

You can't get this shampoo anywhere else. T-Sal has a piroctame olamine shampoo, but it has SLS in it too, and salicilic acid (which is not too bad).
New d irection has a piroctame olamine shampoo with capric glucoside, but the capric glucoside is very dilute, and they have a sh*t load of hydrogenated caster oil in it.

As for the spironolactone, it lasts longest around pH 4.5. Some shampoos are as low as 5, which is better than 7 or 10. Nano shampoo might react with spironolactone too, like minoxidil does, but maybe not at the right pH.

 

[CCS]

Spironolactone has very poor solubility in water, and water is the main ingredient in every shampoo I've ever heard of --
http://www.drugs.com/pro/spironolactone.html

So I don't know how your spironolactone is even dissolving. Shampoo does sometimes contain things like alcohol (in which spironolactone is soluble) and probably other ingredients that dissolve it as well, but the concentration of such ingredients is probably very relevant to whether your spironolactone will dissolve in there.

good points. though surfactants in shampoo are designed to dissolve oil in water. the spironolactone would act like an oil. so no problem there. Also, topical absorption increases 5x when your scalp is soaked, like in the shower after letting hot water on it for a minute. that is why you are not supposed to apply minoxidil right after a shower, but should wait 30 minutes.

 

[CCS]

the question is....is 5mins a day sufficient for any real results? I mean people are applying spironolactone cream 2x a day and leaving it on for hours and I haven tread any miraculous recovery stories.

OP, congrats.

if you are not already applying it as a cream, a shampoo is a very easy, convenient way to add to your regimen.

 

[CCS]

Actually, I had sides from topical spironolactone and fluridil....

they should not have any side effects. do you mean the solution irritated your scalp? Isopropyl alcohol or PG can do that. If you had sexual side effects, I doubt it was the spironolactone or fluridil. They are broken down if withing minutes of entering the blood, and are only active in the scalp.

 

[CCS]

I asked because I know that spironolactone is absorbed systemically to some degree. Some posters on here had blood tests confirming this. It's just unclear what proportion of people have sides.

of course it goes systemic. Do you think it just accumulates in your scalp? OK, maybe gets sweated out. But when it goes systemic, it has a half life of about 6 minutes, and is converted into a harmless chemical. Now if you take 100mg per day orally, that harmless chemical has other effects.

 

[CCS]

and the doctor explained the cream has only minutes to penetrate the skin before it dries,

that is true. while putting apple poly in pure water on my head would be nice, it dries too fast. That is why I must us PG. It sits there for 30+ minutes, giving more penetration time.

 

[CCS]

you can buy smaller spironolactone pills, but the most for the money is 300 x100mg for $70 or so. 10g in shampoo sounds like a lot. Must have made it as paste, though one you can wash out.

The shampoo he used is 500mL 100 pills is 10g (if he used the 100mg ones) of spironolactone. The pills then weigh 50g total (with inactive powder). The density is probably 2, so we have 25mL of powder in 500mL of shampoo. So that is 5% powder. Not bad. Very believeable. So the spironolactone was 2%. That is a good number.

Dr Proctor's Nano is 1/2%. I would go for 1% spironolactone. Anyway, SpiroSavedMe increased the cost of his shampoo by $30 by adding the spironolactone, but 500mL should last him a long time.

I'd check the pH with a pH probe and lower it to 4.5 with hydrochloric acid, but the piroctame olamine is most stable at pH 6, and is very good stuff too. Probably should compromise with pH 5 and maybe store most in the fridge and have a small bottle in the shower.

 

[hair_tomorrow]

I really did!

Id love to believe you....and it might be possible...and if it is....id say maybe .1% of ppl would get sides.

Can't say what % of people could get negative side w/ spironolactone - but there was 1 regular & reputable poster here awhile back (not around any longer) who got gyno from the 5% spironolactone. Haven't heard of many other cases though.

 

[spinner2]

I've read some websites about keto/spironolactone shampoo combos made by doctors, so reactivity shouldn't be an issue. I'm gonna break up 25x100mg tablets in each bottle of nizoral I get, and break up another 50 tablets in a shampoo I'll use on nizoral off days.

 

[CCS]

why hasn't Lee done this yet? is he getting to old and complacent with his income?

 

[CCS]

I want to try this. I just wish I had pure spironolactone. Of course I could just soak my head in hot water for a few minutes, then apply a spironolactone topical, wait 5 minutes, then get in the shower and wash it out. Or apply regular spironolactone 30 minutes before my shower. The shampoo is easier to spread, though.

 

[hair today gone tomorrow]

I want to try this. I just wish I had pure spironolactone. Of course I could just soak my head in hot water for a few minutes, then apply a spironolactone topical, wait 5 minutes, then get in the shower and wash it out. Or apply regular spironolactone 30 minutes before my shower. The shampoo is easier to spread, though.

is that feasible to do everyday?

 

[hair today gone tomorrow]

[quote="hair today gone tomorrow":02912]

I really did!

Id love to believe you....and it might be possible...and if it is....id say maybe .1% of ppl would get sides.

Can't say what % of people could get negative side w/ spironolactone - but there was 1 regular & reputable poster here awhile back (not around any longer) who got gyno from the 5% spironolactone. Haven't heard of many other cases though.[/quote:02912]

I just remember reading dr.lee saying that topical spironolactone does not give sides....so if one does get them then it is an anomaly.

 

[TheHairGrower]

chemistrydude:

You said minoxidil says NOT to add to scalp after a shower, because of extra absorbtion?

Wouldnt this be a good time to put on your minoxidil/DNC/foam?