spironolactone

[regrowing_hair]

Hi Guys,
I am thinking to get on Xandrox15%/5% (minoxidil+azelaic) Acc to Dr.Lee azelaic acid can fite the DHT on top..But I've seen some post saying Dr Lee is only one who swears by it and I found ppl say spironolactone is more effective..I need some info from spironolactone users..
Back ground..26 with diffuse thinning in NW5A pattern..
1) i heard spironolactone converts anogen to estrogen ( converting male hormones to female haormnes or something like that..) I want know any side effects here..long term and short term?
2) ppl complain abt smell..does it really smell bad? also heard 5% doesnt have smell..I heard it leaves a bad smell when used with min..is that true ..how to avoid that?? Guys, I donno I cant stand smell..can I wash it off after some time?
3) Is it greasy?
4) How many times a day do we need to apply that?
5) Any success from spironolactone..
Waiting for replies..
Thanks

 

[Steve4263]

I heard spironolactone is alright as a topical but not if it is taken orally. Info on topical spironolactone. http://www.minoxidil.com/topical.htm Although with any drug if the side effects don't go away don't take it anymore. Switch to something else that does work for yeah.
:doctor:

 

[regrowing_hair]

Thanks Steve4263. Are you using spironolactone in any form? How is it working for you ? What do u advice keeping in consideration of my concerns mentioned above.
Thanks

 

[Steve4263]

Have'nt started on spironolactone yet. Have to wait until I get a confirmation email back from Dr. Lee. Then I'll be able to purchase the spironolactone.

 

[regrowing_hair]

Thank you scribe.. really appreciate ur info. I saw ur regimen. U use Xandrox 5% at daytime. how does it leave ur hair? How much time does it take to dry off? Dr. Lee said it mite leave a hair spray look as it has az acid. I have diffuse thinnig and major hair loss in the front. I am trying to grow my hair long..so I want a qucikdrying min . I could have got on Dr Lees Std min 5% and Xandrox5 or 15% at nite..but i donno applying az acid 1 time a day would be sufficient. someone said xandrox 15% is like glue on ur head. How bad is it? Hwo long does it take to dry off. I am just stuck thing abt this stuff ...I donno I wanna place order for std Min , xandrox 5 and 15 and try it myself..I donno man.help is applreciated.
Thanks

 

[regrowing_hair]

Thanks scribe...Really appreciate ur help and thanks for sharing ur experience. I am going to use Xandrox5 and 15%. I've been using Generic Min for abt 4 weeks on a min virgin scalp. I see a difference now ..I know its very soon to evaluate results..But I am not loosing that much hair may be 5-6 hair in shower. May be I am a good responder to minoxidil. I am gonna follow the xandrox regimen for 3 months if I dont see any thick hair probably gonna go to spironolactone. Lets c..thanks for ur advice.

 

[messmorph]

Hi Guys,
I am thinking to get on Xandrox15%/5% (minoxidil+azelaic) Acc to Dr.Lee azelaic acid can fite the DHT on top..But I've seen some post saying Dr Lee is only one who swears by it and I found ppl say spironolactone is more effective..I need some info from spironolactone users..
Back ground..26 with diffuse thinning in NW5A pattern..
1) i heard spironolactone converts anogen to estrogen ( converting male hormones to female haormnes or something like that..) I want know any side effects here..long term and short term?
2) ppl complain abt smell..does it really smell bad? also heard 5% doesnt have smell..I heard it leaves a bad smell when used with min..is that true ..how to avoid that?? Guys, I donno I cant stand smell..can I wash it off after some time?
3) Is it greasy?
4) How many times a day do we need to apply that?
5) Any success from spironolactone..
Waiting for replies..
Thanks

2. I put on 5% every night before bed. It does have a really light smell which is subjective. But it is not a bad smell.

3. Nope not greasy. minoxidil is more greasy.

4. Morning and Night for best results

5. I only just started so nothing yet. It took propecia 8 months to do anything so might take a while to see results here.

my regime is simple

Propecia 1x a day
spironolactone 5% before bed
minoxidil Generic 5% before bed

This is all. My regime is very easy on the wallet as only costs me about $50AUS per month and very easy to do / no hassle. I can not be fucked getting up in the morning and apply minoxidil/spironolactone early morning.

 

[Felk]

Hi messmorph,

You're from australia too? I was wondering where we can buy spironolactone around here... or do we have to order it over the internet?

I wish there was more info on spironolactone on this site...

 

[messmorph]

I had to get spironolactone from Dr Lee.

I get my propecia and minoxidil 5% from

http://www.pharmacydirect.com.au/PD_Welcome.asp

Propecia is $60 per month for 6 months. If your with medibank you also get $35 or something back. Well I do anyway.

They also have minoxidil there. Minoxdil 5% generic at $39.95 for 2 x 60ml containers. $20 bucks a month is great.

hoo roo !

 

[dark_one]

I have been using the spironolactone 5% Cream from Dr. Lee for about a week now. In the morning I apply it in front of and behind my hairline in the thinning areas and around the temples.

At night, I apply it all over the top of my diffusely-thinning head. I am between a Norwood 1.5 and Norwood 2, with thick hair in places so I have to be patient applying. There definitely is an odor but not too bad. I go to work with it on every morning.

I am counting on spironolactone to prevent further hair loss. minoxidil. 2% is the only other treatment I am currently using along with Nizoral 1%.

What is the likelihood that this spironolactone cream, if applied regularly and thoroughly, will be able to halt the hair loss? I quit Propecia after 9 months due to side effects, despite the fact that I was a good responder to it.

 

[Private Ryan]

i mix my own 2% solution... it not smelly... but it can be consider choking... you can't even smell it for more than 1sec...

 

[j25]

Dark one, i am considering to order spironolactone because i am not maintaining on Proscar.. I have rapidly progressing temples (NW2 now, but a lot of thinning behind them) and diffuse thinning on top. I heard that spironolactone 5% is too hard to apply on the top when there is still hair there. How do you manage to apply it there? And how long do you estimate the cream to last? Thanks for your reply.

 

[dark_one]

Dark one, i am considering to order spironolactone because i am not maintaining on Proscar.. I have rapidly progressing temples (NW2 now, but a lot of thinning behind them) and diffuse thinning on top. I heard that spironolactone 5% is too hard to apply on the top when there is still hair there. How do you manage to apply it there? And how long do you estimate the cream to last? Thanks for your reply.

Well, first of all, I started the spironolactone 5% beginning of this month (March '06) and have been applying morning around front and temples and at night all over along with minoxidil. 2%. I will give updates on my situation in my story forum thread. Of course, I find it easiest to get coverage where thinning is the most (front for me). I use my left hand to part the hair and with index finger apply the cream to the scalp in between. I massage the cream in thin spots as well as nearby in areas where there is more hair coverage. You can observe this by looking in the mirror under bright lights. Of course it is very hard to apply this to every possible small portion of my scalp, but I do this in the problem areas, or where thinning is most likely to occur in the future, following the pattern.
As of now, I have used about half of the jar in just over two weeks. I want to make each jar last one month.

 

[Goingat20]

i just started 2 % lotion as it will be easiar to cover all my slalp. propecia didnt work for me, and dutas doesnt seem to be working for me, but im hoping the spironolactone might aid the dutas... Any one had real success with spironolactone?

 

[dark_one]

i just started 2 % lotion as it will be easiar to cover all my slalp. propecia didnt work for me, and dutas doesnt seem to be working for me, but im hoping the spironolactone might aid the dutas... Any one had real success with spironolactone?

I have some questions:

Do you mean Dr. Lee's 2% spironolactone liquid solution? If so, how does it compare to applying minoxidil to the scalp? Does the spironolactone diffuse around the applicationn area similar to minoxidil?

Also, when are you applying the spironolactone, morning or night or both?
And you don't seem to mind the odor associated with the 2% spironolactone.

Thanks.

 

[Aplunk1]

i just started 2 % lotion as it will be easiar to cover all my slalp. propecia didnt work for me, and dutas doesnt seem to be working for me, but im hoping the spironolactone might aid the dutas... Any one had real success with spironolactone?

I have some questions:

Do you mean Dr. Lee's 2% spironolactone liquid solution? If so, how does it compare to applying minoxidil to the scalp? Does the spironolactone diffuse around the applicationn area similar to minoxidil?

Also, when are you applying the spironolactone, morning or night or both?
And you don't seem to mind the odor associated with the 2% spironolactone.

Thanks.

Hey, I know I'm not the guy you're addressing, but I think I can answer a few questions here:

1) There are many types of spironolactone-- creams, lotions, liquid, etc. Dr. Lee allows you to purchase both liquid (2%) and lotion (5%)
2) Unlike minoxidil, liquid spironolactone is fast drying and doesn't leave the scalp greasy. The 5% spironolactone leaves the scalp a little greasy for about 10 minutes, then it quickly dries as well.
3) I apply the 2% liquid spironolactone at night before bedtime. I apply the 5% lotion to my hairline and temples twice daily.
4) There is no odor with the 2% if you refrigerate it and only cap it (don't leave the applicator in the bottle-- the alcohol will eventually eat it away!)

I've been meaning to sign on here and update you guys on my spironolactone progress-- I can honestly say that I DO RECOMMEND using at least the 5% spironolactone cream-- you can get it from genhair, Dr. Lee, etc.

It's really good stuff, and I feel that it has stabilized my hairline and temples, and in conjunction with my other treatments, has given me an insane amount of regrowth-- Most of this regrowth will probably be benefiting me about 2 months down the line-- it's already turning terminal.

I really and truly recommend at least having a bottle of the 5% lotion around from Dr. Lee. It will last you many months if you just apply it twice daily to the hairline and temples. It's only $35 and will last you for a very long time.

The 2% seems to be working. I rarely, RARELY, shed even a hair from my head nowadays. It's not bothersome at all to apply it-- just a quick apply and rub-- takes about 30 seconds to do... 1 bottle of 2% spironolactone should last you about 2 months-- and it's only $19.

Really, it's one of the few products that I'll go out there and really encourage hair loss sufferers to use. If you have any more questions, please feel free to comment.

 

[Steve4263]

i mix my own 2% solution... it not smelly... but it can be consider choking... you can't even smell it for more than 1sec...

How do you make your 2% spironolactone?

 

[Private Ryan]

i mix my own 2% solution... it not smelly... but it can be consider choking... you can't even smell it for more than 1sec...

How do you make your 2% spironolactone?

for 2%.. 1ml should contain about 20mg of spironolactone..

basically i crushed 2spiro tab(200mg) and mix it with 8ml of 80% alcohol and 2ml of glycerin... i try to mix not more than 10days supply to keep it as fresh as possible..

 

[Felk]

Really, it's one of the few products that I'll go out there and really encourage hair loss sufferers to use. If you have any more questions, please feel free to comment.

Hi aplunk, im also not the guy you're addressing, but i have more questions

Im still thinking of using it, the only reason i wouldn't would be if i used propecia and needed to use it alone to see if it was working. Nothing would be more annoying than using propecia for years suffering side effects, thinking it was helping me maintain, then stopping and finding out it was the spironolactone working, and i had suffered for no reason and wasted all that money.

I just remember reading a recent post by you, in which you advise someone not to get their hopes up for using spironolactone alone. Does that mean you still think it's great, but just wouldn't trust it enough for isolated use, or has your opinion changed recently regarding spironolactone?

 

[science-jay]

Really, it's one of the few products that I'll go out there and really encourage hair loss sufferers to use. If you have any more questions, please feel free to comment.

Hi aplunk, im also not the guy you're addressing, but i have more questions

Im still thinking of using it, the only reason i wouldn't would be if i used propecia and needed to use it alone to see if it was working. Nothing would be more annoying than using propecia for years suffering side effects, thinking it was helping me maintain, then stopping and finding out it was the spironolactone working, and i had suffered for no reason and wasted all that money.

I just remember reading a recent post by you, in which you advise someone not to get their hopes up for using spironolactone alone. Does that mean you still think it's great, but just wouldn't trust it enough for isolated use, or has your opinion changed recently regarding spironolactone?

i also wouldn't count on spironolactone to much, especially because it's difficult to aplly the 5% on the whole scalp, unless you have a shaved head. Probably the 5% is needed twice daily to have a real effect. Right now Ã￾'m on a regimen without Propecia to see if it works.
Take my advice and don't start to much treatments at once becuase than it's difficult to see what is working. You're in the male pattern baldness-boat for life so it's worth researching and slowly adding stuff till you feel you can maintain and even regrowth. good luck!