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steroids and the big 3
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GonnaBeatHairLoss
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mj9 said:GonnaBeatHairLoss said:I don't have a set diet everyday because I'm at school, but I try to get something like 40%/40%/20% in terms of protein, fats, and carbohydrates.
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man that a lot of fat 40%
and not enough carbs 20%
:shock: ???
oops those 2 should be reversed lol
The only steroids I use I put on my dick. The androgenic ones and anti-estrogenic ones. It is healthier for my liver and probably my intestines not to eat it. And maybe my dick will get bigger or time, even if slowly. It should be a good absorption point there anyway.
finasteride won't do much of anything if you are prone to hair loss and take most steroids. Most people who say finasteride works for hair loss on steroids are not prone to male pattern baldness
Deca doesn't cause hair loss but there are several reports that say if you are on finasteride and take deca it will lead to loads of hair loss. Anyway Deca alone isn't a good idea anyway. I have heard some people say T-bol ( not dbol) doesn't cause much hair loss.
I would just get your diet and training set then add some creatine and Whey protein.
Deca doesn't cause hair loss but there are several reports that say if you are on finasteride and take deca it will lead to loads of hair loss. Anyway Deca alone isn't a good idea anyway. I have heard some people say T-bol ( not dbol) doesn't cause much hair loss.
I would just get your diet and training set then add some creatine and Whey protein.
There is a pro-hormone called Superdrol that is known for being very friendly on hair. You're generally on it for 3-4 weeks if you take it.
Just remember that taking finasteride or what have you won't actually save your hair during a cycle. Remember, you're going to be decreasing the total amount of testosterone and testosterone produced by your HPTA system unless you actually use test for a cycle. Thus, you're not converting testosterone into DHT via 5-alpha reductase, so inhibiting 5-alpha with finasteride won't do much.
All the same, your androgen receptors will be taking up androgens via the steroid/pro-hormone binding to them. Thus, a topical anti-androgen is going to be crucial to help fight off effects to the scalp.
My advice to you would be to check out a site called AnabolicMinds. You'll find all you want and need to know over there.
Don't take these cycles lightly. You need a PCT regiment in place before you start. I'd advise you to have Red Yeast Rice and Niacin to help control your body's inevitable spike in cholesterol. Having some N-Acetyl Carnitive (NAC) and milk thistle for liver protection would also be wise.
Also keep in mind that any exposure to androgens could potentially accelerate your hairloss. Some compounds are certainly more risky than others, though.
Just remember that taking finasteride or what have you won't actually save your hair during a cycle. Remember, you're going to be decreasing the total amount of testosterone and testosterone produced by your HPTA system unless you actually use test for a cycle. Thus, you're not converting testosterone into DHT via 5-alpha reductase, so inhibiting 5-alpha with finasteride won't do much.
All the same, your androgen receptors will be taking up androgens via the steroid/pro-hormone binding to them. Thus, a topical anti-androgen is going to be crucial to help fight off effects to the scalp.
My advice to you would be to check out a site called AnabolicMinds. You'll find all you want and need to know over there.
Don't take these cycles lightly. You need a PCT regiment in place before you start. I'd advise you to have Red Yeast Rice and Niacin to help control your body's inevitable spike in cholesterol. Having some N-Acetyl Carnitive (NAC) and milk thistle for liver protection would also be wise.
Also keep in mind that any exposure to androgens could potentially accelerate your hairloss. Some compounds are certainly more risky than others, though.
If you are prone to male pattern baldness good luck with Superdol. It cracks me up when people say they didn't have hair loss with certain products because 99% of those people are not prone to male pattern baldness. Some people can take boat loads of steroids and not lose their hair while others lose a good amount on 200mg week
The only way I would believe any reviews where somebody says they used a certain product and didn't lose hair would be if they used soemthing in their life that actually caused them to lose hair and then found a product that disn't cause hair loss. That is the only way to be sure a certain product won;t cause hair loss in someone prone to male pattern baldness.
Anavar is the only drug I know that doesn't cause hair loss, I have heard Tbol alos but then some say they have lost hair with Tbol.
The only way I would believe any reviews where somebody says they used a certain product and didn't lose hair would be if they used soemthing in their life that actually caused them to lose hair and then found a product that disn't cause hair loss. That is the only way to be sure a certain product won;t cause hair loss in someone prone to male pattern baldness.
Anavar is the only drug I know that doesn't cause hair loss, I have heard Tbol alos but then some say they have lost hair with Tbol.
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HT55 said:finasteride won't do much of anything if you are prone to hair loss and take most steroids. Most people who say finasteride works for hair loss on steroids are not prone to male pattern baldness
Deca doesn't cause hair loss but there are several reports that say if you are on finasteride and take deca it will lead to loads of hair loss. Anyway Deca alone isn't a good idea anyway. I have heard some people say T-bol ( not dbol) doesn't cause much hair loss.
I would just get your diet and training set then add some creatine and Whey protein.
Deca is a steroid and I think all the steroids causes for reduction of hair loss.
Large doses of testosterone will make you shed. A replacement dose, 100 mg a week, isn't a problem along with Propecia. Medical doses of Anavar is safe; 2.5 - 20 mg a day. I've read claims of hair loss on large BB doses. Anyway, it's probaby the safest steroid regarding hair loss. It can be used by women and even children in low to moderate dosages, for its anabolic effect. hGH...
Most steroid pills are very hard on the liver, and will destroy it eventually if you take enough of the pills. If you want to do things the best way, you have to use a needle. Good luck getting injectables past customs, though. And definitely need a topical androgen receptor blocker. Nizoral at the very least, though RU is better. Anyone who says they don't need PCT is either lying or very lucky, that or the research results I saw are wrong. I saw graphs of testosterone levels after one injection of 200mg of deca duribolin. The testosterone levels dropped to 5% withing 5 days, and took 30 days to recover without PCT. One shot. Maybe that is not so bad for hair or other side effects if you don't mind low testosterone during your cycle, but I'm sure you will need PCT. Deca Duribolin acts like progesterone, which is how it shuts down test. I would think it would shut down estrogen and DHT too. It stays in your fat for a year, though.
So 100mg injected weekly is considered the replacement dose? Or is that consumed daily?
I heard the normal range for testosterone is pretty wide, with the high end over 5x as high as the low end. Do you think being on the high end of normal would cause a shed in an male pattern baldness prone person on finasteride who normally is in the middle of the range?
I've heard of blood concentrations of 300 nano grams per deciliter. I think we have 10 Liters, which is 100 deciliters, of blood in our body. Is that free testosterone they were measuring? If I multiply that out it is a lot less than the injections.
I think cycles have a big problem: To make the most of messing with your hormones, you need to work out hard and build lots of muscle on the cycle. But your tendons don't grow as fast as the muscle does. Then when you come off, you lose some of the muscle. All that gorging and starving from bulk and cut can't be healthy in the long run. You definitely need all the tools for PCT lined up before you start the cycle. The reason you do cycles is you are trying to avoid permanent side effects. Were it not for the side effect avoidance, I'm sure people would take a more continuous route. I'm sure people lose some muscle during cuts. I wonder why people don't just use a low dose of clomid long term to raise their testosterone levels a bit. I read the main side effects occur at higher doses.
So 100mg injected weekly is considered the replacement dose? Or is that consumed daily?
I heard the normal range for testosterone is pretty wide, with the high end over 5x as high as the low end. Do you think being on the high end of normal would cause a shed in an male pattern baldness prone person on finasteride who normally is in the middle of the range?
I've heard of blood concentrations of 300 nano grams per deciliter. I think we have 10 Liters, which is 100 deciliters, of blood in our body. Is that free testosterone they were measuring? If I multiply that out it is a lot less than the injections.
I think cycles have a big problem: To make the most of messing with your hormones, you need to work out hard and build lots of muscle on the cycle. But your tendons don't grow as fast as the muscle does. Then when you come off, you lose some of the muscle. All that gorging and starving from bulk and cut can't be healthy in the long run. You definitely need all the tools for PCT lined up before you start the cycle. The reason you do cycles is you are trying to avoid permanent side effects. Were it not for the side effect avoidance, I'm sure people would take a more continuous route. I'm sure people lose some muscle during cuts. I wonder why people don't just use a low dose of clomid long term to raise their testosterone levels a bit. I read the main side effects occur at higher doses.
100 mg Telogen Effluvium/C a week is considered a full replacement dose, yes. It's usually injected once a week intramuscularly, but some divide the dose into 2 or 3 injections to reduce the aromatase activity, and to get a more stable testosterone level. Some even inject the oil subcutaneously.CCS said:So 100mg injected weekly is considered the replacement dose? Or is that consumed daily?
I heard the normal range for testosterone is pretty wide, with the high end over 5x as high as the low end. Do you think being on the high end of normal would cause a shed in an male pattern baldness prone person on finasteride who normally is in the middle of the range?
I've been in the high range+ since april 2010, and Propecia has maintained my hair. No problem with hair loss.
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hello man im not juicing but,
im hitting the gym 4 times a weak in the last 4 years.
started using big 3 one year ago.
horrible side effects cuz of propecia!
it was hard 2 lift higher weights.
i felt tierd must of the day and i think it even effected my vision.
now only weak after quiting propecia im feeling a lot better! not tierd any more and libido isnt fully back but i hope it will..
so what im trying 2 say if propecia give u sides it means it effects your tostesterone levels and more hormones!
u shuold not train + propecia and if u do u shuold visit a doctor monthly for blood work!
high tos level= bigger muscles (if u r training)
lower tos level= u r not balding!
(all the things i said is only if u suffer from sides and depends on what u feel)
im hitting the gym 4 times a weak in the last 4 years.
started using big 3 one year ago.
horrible side effects cuz of propecia!
it was hard 2 lift higher weights.
i felt tierd must of the day and i think it even effected my vision.
now only weak after quiting propecia im feeling a lot better! not tierd any more and libido isnt fully back but i hope it will..
so what im trying 2 say if propecia give u sides it means it effects your tostesterone levels and more hormones!
u shuold not train + propecia and if u do u shuold visit a doctor monthly for blood work!
high tos level= bigger muscles (if u r training)
lower tos level= u r not balding!
(all the things i said is only if u suffer from sides and depends on what u feel)
Why shouldn't you build muscles if you're using Propecia and suffering from side effects? IMO, you should take something to control the estrogen level, and exercise as much as you can! Why? Because hormones express themselves during workout. Your body burns testosterone (and estrogen), and this keeps your system going, and you'll probably recover faster.
andrewsmith065 said:HT55 said:finasteride won't do much of anything if you are prone to hair loss and take most steroids. Most people who say finasteride works for hair loss on steroids are not prone to male pattern baldness
Deca doesn't cause hair loss but there are several reports that say if you are on finasteride and take deca it will lead to loads of hair loss. Anyway Deca alone isn't a good idea anyway. I have heard some people say T-bol ( not dbol) doesn't cause much hair loss.
I would just get your diet and training set then add some creatine and Whey protein.
Deca is a steroid and I think all the steroids causes for reduction of hair loss.
Deca alone won't cause hair loss unless youa re taking Propecia or using a VERY large dosage, Deca alone is not a good idea anyway
Enden said:Large doses of testosterone will make you shed. A replacement dose, 100 mg a week, isn't a problem along with Propecia.
Want to bet ? I'd be on 100mg/week yesterday if it didn't cause hair loss for me
CCS said:Most steroid pills are very hard on the liver, and will destroy it eventually if you take enough of the pills. If you want to do things the best way, you have to use a needle. Good luck getting injectables past customs, though. And definitely need a topical androgen receptor blocker. Nizoral at the very least, though RU is better. Anyone who says they don't need PCT is either lying or very lucky, that or the research results I saw are wrong. I saw graphs of testosterone levels after one injection of 200mg of deca duribolin. The testosterone levels dropped to 5% withing 5 days, and took 30 days to recover without PCT. One shot. Maybe that is not so bad for hair or other side effects if you don't mind low testosterone during your cycle, but I'm sure you will need PCT. Deca Duribolin acts like progesterone, which is how it shuts down test. I would think it would shut down estrogen and DHT too. It stays in your fat for a year, though.
So 100mg injected weekly is considered the replacement dose? Or is that consumed daily?
I heard the normal range for testosterone is pretty wide, with the high end over 5x as high as the low end. Do you think being on the high end of normal would cause a shed in an male pattern baldness prone person on finasteride who normally is in the middle of the range?
I've heard of blood concentrations of 300 nano grams per deciliter. I think we have 10 Liters, which is 100 deciliters, of blood in our body. Is that free testosterone they were measuring? If I multiply that out it is a lot less than the injections.
I think cycles have a big problem: To make the most of messing with your hormones, you need to work out hard and build lots of muscle on the cycle. But your tendons don't grow as fast as the muscle does. Then when you come off, you lose some of the muscle. All that gorging and starving from bulk and cut can't be healthy in the long run. You definitely need all the tools for PCT lined up before you start the cycle. The reason you do cycles is you are trying to avoid permanent side effects. Were it not for the side effect avoidance, I'm sure people would take a more continuous route. I'm sure people lose some muscle during cuts. I wonder why people don't just use a low dose of clomid long term to raise their testosterone levels a bit. I read the main side effects occur at higher doses.
I'm not sure where to start on this one but only an idiot is using Deca alone
100mg/week of T is a replacement dose
You could never get your T level high enough on Clomid to build any muscle and your E2 would go through the roof attempting to do so
Anavar is not hard on the liver but it's expensive and you need to stack it.
testosterone is the base of most steroid cycles, meaning you use testosterone AND one or more additional drug
I didn't, and I used 100 mg Telogen Effluvium a week with Propecia for 7 months or so. 200 mg a week, which was my initial dose, is another story. I shed a lot.HT55 said:Enden said:Large doses of testosterone will make you shed. A replacement dose, 100 mg a week, isn't a problem along with Propecia.
Want to bet ? I'd be on 100mg/week yesterday if it didn't cause hair loss for me
Enden said:I didn't, and I used 100 mg Telogen Effluvium a week with Propecia for 7 months or so. 200 mg a week, which was my initial dose, is another story. I shed a lot.HT55 said:Enden said:Large doses of testosterone will make you shed. A replacement dose, 100 mg a week, isn't a problem along with Propecia.
Want to bet ? I'd be on 100mg/week yesterday if it didn't cause hair loss for me
I bet you are losing hair at 100mg, watch in a few years.
Enden said:No, I wasn't... My scalp was calm. No tingling, and no hair loss. I'm not using finasteride anymore, but that's because of heavy side effects.
Ok so are you losing hair on 100mg/week now that you are not using finasteride ?
No, because I'm using RU58841. I'm currently shedding a bit, but I'm not losing hair. My hair has improved a lot during one month treatment with RU. I had a 2 weeks pause between finasteride and RU, and my scalp began itching and tingling more when I quit finasteride, but it subsided when I began treatment with RU.