Tell me what you think (pics included)

[Guls]

Hello everyone. I read this forum for a while now and decided to post my situation.
I remember always having very very thick hair and never bothered with hair loss. As far as my temples are concerned I thought I am just developing a mature hairline, but in maybe 2 months my hair on top thinned so much that I had to notice it and it freaked me out. By reading some of the posts here I know it doesn't matter that neither my fathers nor mothers side has any balding history.
Unfortunately I can't take finasteride because I am very sensitive to estradiol. I have about 1200 ng/dl natural T levels and elevated bilirubin and hemoglobin. As far as I know only the T can affect hair loss. Only thing I used so far is a very cheap keto 2% shampoo 2 times a week. The balding is still not noticeable but considering how my hair looked before I will probably get there.
Here are some pics with dry and wet hair.

 

[dps]

hop on RU and minoxidil and nofap.
you'll be fine

 

[Bad]

hop on RU and minoxidil and nofap.
you'll be fine

Nofap? what? are we recommending that now? Why do you say it works?

 

[Justarandomname]

Nofap? what? are we recommending that now? Why do you say it works?

Nah, don't listen to him. Fap all you like. Fapping is not linked to hair loss. Period.

 

[frenchy]

jump on minoxidil, do some researchs about ru58841 and be aware about possibles risks etc... there are numerous thread about RU on this forum (how to, sides, where to buy...)

 

[Guls]

hop on RU and minoxidil and nofap.
you'll be fine

Nofap? what? are we recommending that now? Why do you say it works?

Nah, don't listen to him. Fap all you like. Fapping is not linked to hair loss. Period.

jump on minoxidil, do some researchs about ru58841 and be aware about possibles risks etc... there are numerous thread about RU on this forum (how to, sides, where to buy...)

First, thank you for the replies, it's very appreciated. I have some questions about your recommendations:

If you can see from the pictures I have no bald spots when my hair is dry, so why should I 'jump' on minoxidil? As far as I understand minoxidil is only for regrowth and I'm just trying to maintain. Another question is, can minoxidil make the rest of your hair depend on it?
Ru seems interesting but also damn pricey. What do you guys think of the infamous topicals like Revivogen or Crinagen? I saw some threads with people having good results after some months, others say it's useless.

I am especially interested on what you think about picture 4? Is this kind of thinning normal/usual male pattern baldness"?

And the nofap thing seems to be a very debated topic here lol. I tried nofap for reasons other then saving my hair but I can go a few days max eh..

 

[rogerackroyd]

About that 4th pic, of course you will see scalp when you pull your hair like that. Difficult to know if it's thinning or not.

 

[Guls]

About that 4th pic, of course you will see scalp when you pull your hair like that. Difficult to know if it's thinning or not.

Your're right man but I can feel it has thinned out. I guess I am still in some denial phase that I have male pattern baldness, although the receding hairline is pretty much evidential itself.
Anyone has some experience for how long it takes with such a baldness pattern to go bald? I will look like **** when I go bald

 

[Vim]

I am also curious why he should jump on minoxidil? If you find ways for maintaining you're good.
About that estradiol sensitivty and T. There are some theories suggesting that high estradiol in the body is causing more production of dht. So by reducing the bad estrogens with supplements like DIM the dht production will lower. On the other side, there are people saying that by lowering estradiol trough DIM their dht production went up. Haven't seen a thread about that going on lately but check the old ones.

 

[Guls]

I am also curious why he should jump on minoxidil? If you find ways for maintaining you're good.
About that estradiol sensitivty and T. There are some theories suggesting that high estradiol in the body is causing more production of dht. So by reducing the bad estrogens with supplements like DIM the dht production will lower. On the other side, there are people saying that by lowering estradiol trough DIM their dht production went up. Haven't seen a thread about that going on lately but check the old ones.

Sounds interesting, will take a look into that.
So to summarize, I am definitely experiencing male pattern baldness? What norwood am I? Thanks for all the replies.

 

[Notcoolanymore]

hop on RU and minoxidil and nofap.
you'll be fine

When I first read this, I laughed my a$$ off. I was going to give him positive rep for the laughs, but I just couldn't.

 

[arvindekrahi]

Can anyone please tell me what is 'RU'...?

 

[Guls]

Can anyone please tell me what is 'RU'...?

It is a topical treatment that's applied on the scalp and blocks the androgen receptors for dht.

 

[Toms]

Sounds interesting, will take a look into that.
So to summarize, I am definitely experiencing male pattern baldness? What norwood am I? Thanks for all the replies.

Yes, you are.
NW1.5

 

[Guls]

Yes, you are.
NW1.5

Ah fvck it. I think I know what triggered my male pattern baldness. I was experimenting with ways to boost my natural testosterone and lower my estrogens. Coincidentally (or not) after less then two months my hair thinned enough that for the first time in my life the question of male pattern baldness popped up. It was like a jungle before and now months after it's so flat and dead. Seems like ru is my only option.