Testosterone Has Ruined My Life... And It’s Making Me Annoyed

[Ikarus]

Castration wouldn't be accepted by 99% of the male population in the first place?

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Can you just leave? You're not relevant to this conversation at all...

 

[HLV]

Can you just leave? You're not relevant to this conversation at all...

That was my very first post in this thread? If you don't like hearing someone else's opinion that challenges your beliefs just say that.

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[BigOl'BaldingHead]

No, because I don't find these treatments to be cures, where you can have permanent effects from one treatment and never have to think about hair loss again. Whereas castration plus an alternative hormone is a cure, where this alternative hormone could be used to prevent the effects of ADT without the effects of testosterone or estrogen.

I think injecting something in your scalp every 3-5 years is infinitely better than cutting your balls off. But I understand you have more reasons than just hairloss to opt for castration right?

 

[Ikarus]

I think injecting something in your scalp every 3-5 years is infinitely better than cutting your balls off. But I understand you have more reasons than just hairloss to opt for castration right?

I'm doubtful with any upcoming treatments. So far, any proof which has been shown to me regarding future treatments has been tested on those who have alopecia areata, as if that has any relevance to androgenic alopecia.

No, that's not a better option, and is more costly than castration. ADT has other benefits than just a solution to hair loss, it also leads to the prevention of androgen-dependant prostate cancer, along with an extension of life and other androgen dependant issues (acne, body odour, etc.) coming to a halt. I mean, that's besides the point though, my point is that scientists should look into finding an alternative hormone to prevent the negative outcomes of castration such as osteoporosis. Scientists are too focused on 5AR, and old news regarding hair loss, and don't think creatively, which explains why their greatest outcome is finasterflop.

 

[Ikarus]

That was my very first post in this thread? If you don't like hearing someone else's opinion that challenges your beliefs just say that.

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But there is already someone else challenging my beliefs, mind your own business.

 

[HLV]

Scientists should find a way to prevent the negative outcomes of castration because Ikarus wants to castrate himself and because the other retard from the hair loss forum injecting acid into his balls, ohh and let's not forget, the other mental ill fucks who are willingly chemically castrating themselves to switch genders because "they were born into the wrong body" LMAO.

Why cure CANCER, why fight AIDS, why help AFRICA and kids who are dying because they don't have what to eat, why cure hair loss for hundred of millions of normal men who are suffering because of it, IKARUS AND HIS TRANNY FRIENDS NEED HELP WITH CASTRATION... Keep dreaming sucker, it will never happen, your doing it with your own hands, and you will suffer the consequences, and osteoporosis is just one of them, sooner or later you will find out on your own skin. Good luck and good riddance!

Ikarus is just a very self absorbed individual and i doubt he does anything to help others in real life.

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[Meeee199]

Your too well mannered when it comes to expressing your opinions, especially when we are talking about narcissistic and egocentric fucks as he is, but whatever... I am leaving had enough of this forum and for your own mental state and well being i suggest you doing the same. Have a good one and good luck

Isn't this the 5th time you say you are leaving? When are you really going to leave? I seriously don't understand what you are doing here. I mean you have the right to be and to do wherever and whatever you like, but you are part of the anti-finasteride crew, anti duatasteride, anti minoxidil, anti concealers, anti hair systems and anti hair transplant. You sh*t on every possible solution for hairloss and find it weak/stupid/doesn't work..You are a strong man who has accpeted baldness and find it sexy and always talk about bald men who have beautiful wives/gf and who are happy in their lives.

So what are you doing here?

 

[Meeee199]

I'm searching for your mother to show her what a real dick looks like

That's disrespectful and immature.

 

[Meeee199]

Wow, your a genius aren't you? It was supposed to be shithead

So you admit you are immature. Nice to know.

 

[Ikarus]

Scientists should find a way to prevent the negative outcomes of castration because Ikarus wants to castrate himself and because the other retard from the hair loss forum injecting acid into his balls, ohh and let's not forget, the other mental ill fucks who are willingly chemically castrating themselves to switch genders because "they were born into the wrong body" LMAO.

Why cure CANCER, why fight AIDS, why help AFRICA and kids who are dying because they don't have what to eat, why cure hair loss for hundred of millions of normal men who are suffering because of it, IKARUS AND HIS TRANNY FRIENDS NEED HELP WITH CASTRATION... Keep dreaming sucker, it will never happen, your doing it with your own hands, and you will suffer the consequences, and osteoporosis is just one of them, sooner or later you will find out on your own skin. Good luck and good riddance!

Actually, an alternative hormone could help prostate cancer patients who have had an orchiectomy, and want to prevent osteoporosis.

 

[BigOl'BaldingHead]

I'm doubtful with any upcoming treatments. So far, any proof which has been shown to me regarding future treatments has been tested on those who have alopecia areata, as if that has any relevance to androgenic alopecia.

No, that's not a better option, and is more costly than castration. ADT has other benefits than just a solution to hair loss, it also leads to the prevention of androgen-dependant prostate cancer, along with an extension of life and other androgen dependant issues (acne, body odour, etc.) coming to a halt. I mean, that's besides the point though, my point is that scientists should look into finding an alternative hormone to prevent the negative outcomes of castration such as osteoporosis. Scientists are too focused on 5AR, and old news regarding hair loss, and don't think creatively, which explains why their greatest outcome is finasterflop.

I don't know where you got that from because that's just untrue.

Also the risk for prostate cancer is so minimal anyway that it shouldn't be an argument for castration. The rate of acne decreases with age, and since you're so young that the chances of having less acne in the future is pretty big. And the extension of life of maybe 1-3 years(?) can be found by just eating healthy and exercising more.

 

[Who Farted]

I’d gladly take that testosterone off your hands. Would be nice to feel 21 again...

 

[Ikarus]

I don't know where you got that from because that's just untrue.

Also the risk for prostate cancer is so minimal anyway that it shouldn't be an argument for castration. The rate of acne decreases with age, and since you're so young that the chances of having less acne in the future is pretty big. And the extension of life of maybe 1-3 years(?) can be found by just eating healthy and exercising more.

‘Any proof which has been shown to me regarding future treatments has been tested on those who have alopecia areata’

That’s incorrect, the rate of acne doesn’t decrease with age in those who have legitimate acne, not pubertal acne.* Your testosterone lowers as you get older, but your sensitivity to the effects of androgens increase, so theoretically more acne would come. There is a reason why some people suffer with acne for periods spanning longer than ten years, and it’s not something which just goes away with age. Actually, regarding the life expectancy extension, theres no estimate of how much longer you will live, but it reduces your chances of having issues related with testosterone such as cardiac issues.

* I am going to insert an image here.



Do you actually believe acne similar to this will just lessen as he gets older? Cases like this are growing, and are becoming more and more common within males.

 

[Ikarus]

I’d gladly take that testosterone off your hands. Would be nice to feel 21 again...

No offence, but why are you acting as if you are fifty years old or something? You are thirty-three from looking at your profile, and that is a prime age in my opinion.

 

[Who Farted]

No offence, but why are you acting as if you are fifty years old or something? You are thirty-three from looking at your profile, and that is a prime age in my opinion.

I am indeed. It’s not that I need it, I’m perfectly happy where I am, but there is a world of difference between your 20s and 30s and, given the chance, but that doesn’t mean I wouldn’t welcome the chance to turn back the clock.

 

[Ikarus]

Yup, I have/had this type of acne especially on my back but thank god it's almost gone now. Dealt with acne for more than 15 years. Fina did help a bit too.

Always wondered if people who got acne are more prone to hairloss, but a lot of people who never had acne also bald so I don't know if there is a solid correlation.

I mean, you are proving my point, no one wants to wait fifteen years for their acne to just lessen. In fact, leaving it for that long puts you in risk to have permanent ice pick/boxcar scars. Even myself, suffering with acne for five years, have been left with a few of those scars, and I didn’t pick at my skin. Which is why acne should be treated ASAP, and shouldn’t be left for it to lessen as you get older. In fact, that sounds quite stupid, I’m not sure why anyone would want to continue the mental turmoil of acne for that long. Along with that, the other benefits of ADT are not needing to wash your hair for seven days, and even then it doesn’t get greasy whatsoever. It lessens your body hair, along with reducing the ‘male odour’.

People who have acne for extended periods of time generally have it due to genetics, similar to hair loss, but there is no correlation between the two.

 

[Ikarus]

I am indeed. It’s not that I need it, I’m perfectly happy where I am, but there is a world of difference between your 20s and 30s and, given the chance, I would welcome the chance to turn back the clock.

Personally, I wish I was born in the early 60s, and could have enjoyed life without technology.

 

[Ikarus]

I tried accutane, but holy fck the side effects were brutal. My skin got extremely dry and it was very painful, stopped after 1 month. Thank god too, some people are fcked after taking that drug, look it up it's dangerous + it has a shady past with FDA, etc. (people got Chron's disease,...)

I don't have any ice pick scars though but yeah for some people they have no choice at all, if my acne was bad on my face then maybe I would've continued.


Wish I was born even earlier. But most of all, society wasn't as fcked as now. Technology is just a catalyst but it is not the cause of the state the west is currently in.

I was on it for a month too, and it gave me raised ALT levels around four times higher than they should be. I had to get blood tests every two weeks, and a liver-screening test (ultrasound). It has also given me seemingly permanent chapped lips and acid reflux. My acne was bad on my face, it wasn’t as bad as the persons in the photo, but mine was persistent for five years. I would get new pimples every other day, and it left a collage of post-inflammatory erythema.

 

[StevenGerrard]

@Pigeon why don't you give Fina another try? You are gonna end up like Larry David (whining about being bald) for the rest of your life...

 

[StevenGerrard]

Regimen: Fina, duta and spirono. Good luck on your journey becoming a woman, hope it saves you hair.

And sorry that you see critizicing trans regimens to save hair as "whining". Sorry to hurt your feelings.

topical spironolactone (which I don't think does much) isn't the same as oral spironolactone but yes I'm well aware of the potential feminizing effects of Duta/finasteride (I have accepted it because as of right now it's what is available to me/us). If it wasn't for the high risk of developing gyno and possible feminization of fat distribution I would add a lot more "stuff" to my current repertoire -- Duta is where I draw the line.

That is not what I said at all. Re-read what I wrote please.

You are fixing to end up bald for no real reason (IMHO)