"the Complete History Of Sebum -- Plus Three Words"

[Nadia1972]

there is an another desease of sebum which sebum is too thick.Now it's not about the sebum is the cause of Androgenetic Alopecia but how the sebum enters into the operation of the Androgenetic Alopecia.It's about gene therapy.You can't wait a very long time for the answer
The role of sebum in the Androgenetic Alopecia is not more to be demonstrated for the doctors. In this condition we can also doubt about the role of sebum in acne, which is more than stupid

 

[Nadia1972]

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you're a stupid man without argument.i leave you you and the racist man with your stupidity

 

[That Guy]

I can feel brain cells dying when I read Nadia's posts

 

[Nadia1972]

I can feel brain cells dying when I read Nadia's posts

you have brain cells ? really ?
So intelligent and so bald..

 

[Seuxin]

f*****g idiot, PGE2 cleary help to give regrowth but only if you adress the AA pathway...We are many using it and it cleary help regrowth....By the way it's nearly the same mecanism than minoxidil...AGAIN, YOU'RE TELLING sh*t !

 

[Nadia1972]

f*****g idiot, PGE2 cleary help to give regrowth but only if you adress the AA pathway...We are many using it and it cleary help regrowth....By the way it's nearly the same mecanism than minoxidil...AGAIN, YOU'RE TELLING sh*t !

f*****g idiot.Go to say that to swoop.It's him that said this.There is no evidence that PGD2 and PGE2 enter in the process of baldness.I trust him more than you.You say in doctissimo that your hair continues to fall inspite your PGE2.I try your protocole several month.It don't work.The only thing work in Androgenetic Alopecia is the hormones
People in this forum said that the man of swisstemple who use PGE2 took hormones without telling to the people
People like you and nazi swisstemple are impostors of the net

 

[Armando Jose]

So by "the complete history of sebum" (as the thread title states), you actually mean zero history, facts, empirical evidence, research, or any substantiative information that would make this even plausible right?

There are so many personal "theories" that uneducated people constantly try to push it's ridiculous. The "complete history" - what a f*****g laugh; there's not even any information in the original thread because lo and behold, there is nothing to back this retarded sebum theory with.

You are wrong,
The theories of sebum are the most widespread in all times. why???

Did you read about Saboreaud, a excelent french investigator, and bald as a clue.

PS Please Seuxin and Nadia, relax.....

 

[Armando Jose]

yes perfectly
I see my doctor soon.I will ask him the question
I read that roaccutane on doctissimo (French site) could give very good regrowth hair. People tried it for seborrhoeic dermatitis and this had an effect on their sebum on the scalp

Please, inform us wich is the opinion of your Dr.
Here are some information

Accutane, at dosis used in acne, are not good for hair. In his prospect:

thinning of the hair (may continue after treatment is stopped)

https://www.drugs.com/sfx/accutane-side-effects.html

Why does isotretinoin hair-loss happen? Isotretinoin impacts the oil-gland function of the skin (including the scalp) and causes changes in cells that provide structure to hair and skin, all of which leads to hair and skin dryness and fragility, which can cause hair-thinning, hair-loss, and even baldness.


but in minute dosis can help, trough less sebum??

https://www.gourmetstylewellness.com/interact/threads/accutane-a-cure.43267/


And see the post of squegge

“Ok I was at my GP not too long ago, an Egyptian doctor who I have been seeing for about a decade.

For the first time we spoke about my hair loss, well well fkn well.. what a surprise when that topic was brought up.

Turns out he used to work for Merck & Sharpe as a researcher back in Egypt and he was booted out for his theory on hair loss. This is no bullshit.. this guy was a fkn knowledge machine. All this time!

DHT isn't the cause of hair loss is. Sebum is. This is why:

DHT triggers the glands in your follicle to overproduce sebum. Bacteria gathers in this overflow and your immune system then attacks the bacteria, INCLUDING the hair follicle with inflammation. He said it's very similar to the process of acne.”

 

[stump]

Disclaimer: I have not read all five pages of this thread.

Ok so sebum definitely is not the cause for hairloss at all. It has NOTHING to do with hairloss. Sebum's purpose is to nourish your skin and hair follicles. It also helps you not dehydrate in hot conditions and it wicks away rain. Sebum is a good thing. HOWEVER! It is this same sebum that allows malassezia yeast to grow out of control as this yeast uses your sebum for food. This yeast is the cause for seborrheic dermatitis. Seborrheic dermatitis can cause you to shed hair more often, and it also does not make for a great area to grow hair in. Thus, I believe that seborrheic dermatitis can cause someone to lose their hair more quickly and also accelerate the balding process of someone susceptible to male pattern baldness.

Another thing to note is that sebum production is also influenced by DHT, which is why more men have seborrheic dermatitis and are usually more oily than women (cept for maybe them Italian ladies...)

Finasteride may help with seborrheic dermatitis since it would help control dht production and consequently sebum production.

In all, I feel that the two conditions (sebum and hairloss) often occur in the same scenario but are not related.

 

[stump]

So I just read the thread. Disappointed in how accusing it is and how toxic it is towards everyone.. I wish this was more of an educated discussion.

 

[Armando Jose]

Disclaimer: I have not read all five pages of this thread.

Ok so sebum definitely is not the cause for hairloss at all. It has NOTHING to do with hairloss. Sebum's purpose is to nourish your skin and hair follicles. It also helps you not dehydrate in hot conditions and it wicks away rain. Sebum is a good thing. HOWEVER! It is this same sebum that allows malassezia yeast to grow out of control as this yeast uses your sebum for food. This yeast is the cause for seborrheic dermatitis. Seborrheic dermatitis can cause you to shed hair more often, and it also does not make for a great area to grow hair in. Thus, I believe that seborrheic dermatitis can cause someone to lose their hair more quickly and also accelerate the balding process of someone susceptible to male pattern baldness.

Another thing to note is that sebum production is also influenced by DHT, which is why more men have seborrheic dermatitis and are usually more oily than women (cept for maybe them Italian ladies...)

Finasteride may help with seborrheic dermatitis since it would help control dht production and consequently sebum production.

In all, I feel that the two conditions (sebum and hairloss) often occur in the same scenario but are not related.

I am glad that you agree that the sebum is good for a healthy hair,
Sebum is also a source of vitamin E
And it is indispensable to eliminate the outer wrap/sheat of the hair (ORS)and manage to leave the hair fiber to the outside.
Would you agree that without sebum there is no hair?
I know you do not think it is the cause of common alopecia .... but time to time


And by the way, this topic is interesting and can be developed a lot.

 

[buckthorn]

where did Nadia go?? I am the ONLY one she hasn't called a dirty pig and I was really looking forward to that today

 

[Nadia1972]

Disclaimer: I have not read all five pages of this thread.

Ok so sebum definitely is not the cause for hairloss at all. It has NOTHING to do with hairloss. Sebum's purpose is to nourish your skin and hair follicles. It also helps you not dehydrate in hot conditions and it wicks away rain. Sebum is a good thing. HOWEVER! It is this same sebum that allows malassezia yeast to grow out of control as this yeast uses your sebum for food. This yeast is the cause for seborrheic dermatitis. Seborrheic dermatitis can cause you to shed hair more often, and it also does not make for a great area to grow hair in. Thus, I believe that seborrheic dermatitis can cause someone to lose their hair more quickly and also accelerate the balding process of someone susceptible to male pattern baldness.

Another thing to note is that sebum production is also influenced by DHT, which is why more men have seborrheic dermatitis and are usually more oily than women (cept for maybe them Italian ladies...)

Finasteride may help with seborrheic dermatitis since it would help control dht production and consequently sebum production.

In all, I feel that the two conditions (sebum and hairloss) often occur in the same scenario but are not related.

Seborrheic dermatitis has nothing to do with the Androgenetic Alopecia process. One suspects an immune cause. Those who have only one dermatitis do not have their hair falling contrary to the Androgenetic Alopecia
I have my sebum near to zero but i keep having
Seborrhoeic dermatitis

 

[Nadia1972]

Please, inform us wich is the opinion of your Dr.
Here are some information

Accutane, at dosis used in acne, are not good for hair. In his prospect:

thinning of the hair (may continue after treatment is stopped)

https://www.drugs.com/sfx/accutane-side-effects.html

Why does isotretinoin hair-loss happen? Isotretinoin impacts the oil-gland function of the skin (including the scalp) and causes changes in cells that provide structure to hair and skin, all of which leads to hair and skin dryness and fragility, which can cause hair-thinning, hair-loss, and even baldness.


but in minute dosis can help, trough less sebum??

https://www.gourmetstylewellness.com/interact/threads/accutane-a-cure.43267/


And see the post of squegge

“Ok I was at my GP not too long ago, an Egyptian doctor who I have been seeing for about a decade.

For the first time we spoke about my hair loss, well well fkn well.. what a surprise when that topic was brought up.

Turns out he used to work for Merck & Sharpe as a researcher back in Egypt and he was booted out for his theory on hair loss. This is no bullshit.. this guy was a fkn knowledge machine. All this time!

DHT isn't the cause of hair loss is. Sebum is. This is why:

DHT triggers the glands in your follicle to overproduce sebum. Bacteria gathers in this overflow and your immune system then attacks the bacteria, INCLUDING the hair follicle with inflammation. He said it's very similar to the process of acne.”

I see him very soon. So I will ask him about roaccutane.Even if he told me that it is a good treatment, I will not take it because I heard that have a lot of side effects
Maybe everything depends on the dosage to have beneficial effects. Some people have said that they have seen good regrowth thanks to roaccutan

 

[Nadia1972]

where did Nadia go?? I am the ONLY one she hasn't called a dirty pig and I was really looking forward to that today

It does not even deserve an answer because your remark is stupid so much

 

[rafiles]

I see him very soon. So I will ask him about roaccutane.Even if he told me that it is a good treatment, I will not take it because I heard that have a lot of side effects
Maybe everything depends on the dosage to have beneficial effects. Some people have said that they have seen good regrowth thanks to roaccutan

Hello, what are you using now for Sebum control

 

[irishlad87]

I see him very soon. So I will ask him about roaccutane.Even if he told me that it is a good treatment, I will not take it because I heard that have a lot of side effects
Maybe everything depends on the dosage to have beneficial effects. Some people have said that they have seen good regrowth thanks to roaccutan

Armando, I took roaccutane when I was 18-20 and had perfect hair as did my brother and both of us have nw3+ hair now while my oldest brother has fine thick hair he never took roaccutane, did this doctor say what might help people who have thinning hair because of roaccutnae. Finasteride 3+ yrs did little for my hair which is now frizzy when it used to be thick and straight before I took roaccutane. Your input would be appreciated,

 

[Nadia1972]

Hello, what are you using now for Sebum control

I using 50mg of androcure,2mg of provames ,75 mg of psironolactone and diane 35.
My hair stop falling completely despite my DS
I specify that it is my dermato that prescribed to me all this

 

[Nadia1972]

Armando, I took roaccutane when I was 18-20 and had perfect hair as did my brother and both of us have nw3+ hair now while my oldest brother has fine thick hair he never took roaccutane, did this doctor say what might help people who have thinning hair because of roaccutnae. Finasteride 3+ yrs did little for my hair which is now frizzy when it used to be thick and straight before I took roaccutane. Your input would be appreciated,

Do you have an Androgenetic Alopecia ?