The Rock Is This Year's Sexiest Man Alive

[Exodus2011]

maybe that girl looks nervous because you are a skinny creepy looking baldie with a grown out norwood 6 that curls up a bit in the back and are awkward af

wait who am i describing? ^_^

 

[hairblues]

The only way I can prove you wrong is to get five men with your pics and to go on somewhere like pof and see how many men can get dates based on your looks and there verbal game.

I absolutely promise you that each person will get different results based on their online skills - theyre ability to chat, articulate themselves, ask questions etc.

Some guys don't even have the social skill to even do it online!

This is very true

I have had very good looking men approach me both online and in person that have no personality--they try but its like dull...and they are obnoxious when you are not interested in them because they are good looking and think women are supposed to what? just drop their panties? f*** off.

Rather take an educated average man over a drop dead gorgeous dummy any day of the week.

I don't mean this disrespectfully but Fred obviously lacks 'charm' he's a very blunt fellow--not all women are going to go for this sort of thing--so he compensates by saying 'charm' 'confidence' are false. So i do think in his case and for some men--its true they can only get 'looks matched' and because he says he is decent looking guy he does okay.

I know a lot of confident charming men who are getting laid plenty and not fantastic to look at.

 

[hairblues]

Yep, I've not responded to women who use txt speech. I know women who do the same thing.

I actually sampled openers a year back on tinder.

If I just said 'HI' I would get 3 out of 10 responses.
If I wrote: 'You're stunning, lets chat' I got a 7 out of 10 response.
When I wrote something personalised I got a 9 out of 10 response.

I promise - just try different openers, do the test yourself, and you will be surprises how much your messages can change the outcome of interactions.

I think if you look at Freds philosophy about women in general you can start to understand what you say does not matter and what you experienced will not change his opinion.

From his perspective you are giving women way too much credit.

I know from my own experience i never respond to the 'hi' or 'whats up' emails...i don't care how good looking the guy is...i automatically get an impression of he must be dull if that is all he has to say.
Personalized or flatter is better opener.
Do i believe they 'mean' what they say in these clever openings? NO but it shows me they are interested in getting to know me--not my photos..and it also shows me if they have the ability to be charming.

Fred does not believe in 'charm'--its probably 'fake' to him.

I used to work in the music industry in my 20s and there is this saying about "It's their football' regarding the record labels...meaning if you want to play with the record labels it's their football they have the power...so when you negotiate its always going to be in their favor.

So with women i think the 'pussy' is the football...they have the power...it sucks it's not fair to men but its how it is and it's not going to change.

If you resent women for this--well unless you are good looking or decent looking not going to do to well.
but if you learn how to charm women--you strengthen your chances.

I don't think men here hate women but i do hear resentment towards them....as if some men here feel repressed by women's power in this area..so there is this animosity.

How the hell can you charm women if you don't even really like them very much?
We sense that a mile away.

 

[tellersquill]

I think if you look at Freds philosophy about women in general you can start to understand what you say does not matter and what you experienced will not change his opinion.

From his perspective you are giving women way too much credit.

I know from my own experience i never respond to the 'hi' or 'whats up' emails...i don't care how good looking the guy is...i automatically get an impression of he must be dull if that is all he has to say.
Personalized or flatter is better opener.
Do i believe they 'mean' what they say in these clever openings? NO but it shows me they are interested in getting to know me--not my photos..and it also shows me if they have the ability to be charming.

Fred does not believe in 'charm'--its probably 'fake' to him.

I used to work in the music industry in my 20s and there is this saying about "It's their football' regarding the record labels...meaning if you want to play with the record labels it's their football they have the power...so when you negotiate its always going to be in their favor.

So with women i think the 'pussy' is the football...they have the power...it sucks it's not fair to men but its how it is and it's not going to change.

If you resent women for this--well unless you are good looking or decent looking not going to do to well.
but if you learn how to charm women--you strengthen your chances.

I don't think men here hate women but i do hear resentment towards them....as if some men here feel repressed by women's power in this area..so there is this animosity.

How the hell can you charm women if you don't even really like them very much?
We sense that a mile away.

Excellent points!

 

[tellersquill]

Rowan Atkinson is actually quite famous for bedding some very beautiful women.

He is of course famous, wealthy, and talented - which cant hurt.

 

[tellersquill]

Well he implied it was all about beauty and clearly with Mr. Atkinson, there must be more than just beauty

 

[hairblues]

Lol if you think the vibe I give off here has anything to do with how I am in real life.

Obviously I don't talk like this in real life, I'd get ostracized, and maybe even killed.



I've had sex with many girls who had: "If you just say, 'hey how are you?' I won't reply, be original." on their profile.

That's the normal way to start a conversation with someone you don't know. Demanding anything else is smug and unrealistic, f*** the girls who had such demands (and I did, literally).



Charm = good looks and compatibility.

One girl may think I'm an a**h** and the next one that I'm very charming (my girlfriend for example).

In the end, it's all about appearance. Like being charming was something universal, please.

Girls will find some supposedly charming guys corny and they'll think that they are try-hards. Why? Because they're just not attracted to them.

Sexual attraction = "Oh he's so charming, so witty, so smart, bla bla!"

No sexual attraction = "Meh, get away from me."



No such thing, it's all about looks and this nonsense is getting tiring. Tell me about the time a man looking like Rowan Atkinson charmed his way into your panties. Just lol!

Well, the 31 women I had sex with certainly didn't sense much... Wait, that came out wrong.

Fred you contradicted yourself at least twice baby cakes.

first you say you are not like you are here in real life implying you are different which would mean you are acting charming in real life--yet your saying your charm does not factor in with women you like.
Thats very contradictory to me

what may be happening is you have options with who you want to hook up with--so the if you only mildly interested in one over another your more interested==you are going to 'try' harder with the one you are more interested in...hence 'charm' or best behavior whatever word you want to fill in to make a better impression because you value the one you are 'more' attracted to then the one you are less attracted too.

second example you cited sounds like an 'oxymoron' of sorts.
your saying you bedded many women who won't reply to the 'hey won't respond etc'...so they found you physically attracted and made an acceptation--nothing is wrong with this and does not negate what i am saying for less attractive men...if a man is less attractive than you I'm sorry he's got to try harder IF he wants pussy.
Trying harder is not really possible if no easy if you don't really 'like' women beyond physical needs and some companionship..if you look down on women and your not attractive at all--that equals celibacy.

Your using a photo of not only an unattractive or average looking man but a character actor who purposely contorts his body clothes and facial expression to be 'goofy'
You get annoyed when i use 'extreme' examples this is pretty extreme..

now take the actor without goofy clothes or funny behavior and make him a University professor or an architect someone with an interesting field of work stable and yes with some charm--then YES i would go out with
him as would a lot of women who are not only interested in 'looks' when being with a man.

 

[hairblues]

what is wrong with this for a middle aged man with a good mind some charm and a good profession?

 

[hairblues]

he is 60 shes 32. she's not a beauty but she's not ugly for a 60 year old man he's probably thrilled.

 

[IggyPop]

Oh, come on, we all know that there are different standards for celebrities or millionaires. It is ridiculous these examples show up again and again.

 

[CaptainForehead]

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Do i believe they 'mean' what they say in these clever openings? NO but it shows me they are interested in getting to know me--not my photos..

hairblues -- so innocent.

 

[blackg]

I don't think men here hate women but i do hear resentment towards them....as if some men here feel repressed by women's power in this area..so there is this animosity.

This is the same vibe I pick up on, even from the "slayers."

 

[hairblues]

Oh, come on, we all know that there are different standards for celebrities or millionaires. It is ridiculous these examples show up again and again.

Fred used it as a sample.

Showing him out of character he plays.

You dissing this mans looks what do you look like to be so judgmental.

 

[Nadester]

Fred, what advice would you give to someone who is losing his hair(nw2) and is okay-looking??
Besides trying to look better of course in his quest to Get laid??
Also what advice would you give to him if he just wants to become popular in his circle??
The circle in question is a college and the location is in india.

 

[hairblues]

hairblues -- so innocent.

If you knew me you would really be laughing at yourself for thinking I am naive.

Of course men are drawn to looks.

My point is they make an effort to read the bio.

To find common ground to connect.

As opposed to 'hey baby wanna chat?'

Hey baby you wanna chat or hi how you doing etc it's lazy.

 

[blackg]

Fred, what advice would you give to someone who is losing his hair(nw2) and is okay-looking??
Besides trying to look better of course in his quest to Get laid??
Also what advice would you give to him if he just wants to become popular in his circle??
The circle in question is a college and the location is in india.

My first piece of advice would be to not listen to Fred.

 

[blackg]

Accurate description of women.

No, it was definitely not a "burn" or an accurate description of women.

It was just another cheap shot at a woman.
A cheap shot brought on because Fred's world view was being questioned.

Cheap and childish was all it was.
Fred is running out of arguments.

 

[Dante92]

Fred is running out of arguments.

At least he actually makes arguments. You, on the other hand....

 

[blackg]

At least he actually makes arguments. You, on the other hand....

(chuckle!)

 

[CopeForLife]

"Hey how are you?" is not a lazy approach, it is the only approach in my opinion.

PUA agents will disagree with this