The state of this site lately

The Far Side

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Today's posts are a good example of the quality of content on this site lately, garbage. It's just people trolling eachother with nofap stuff and a massive circlejerk with people competing to write about the impact of male pattern baldness in the darkest possible way. With this in mind I was wondering if I picked the best male pattern baldness related forum. gourmetstylewellness.com seemed the most active, and at the time I first checked it the content in 'tell your story' etc. was decent, and the DR'ing (sigh) thread wasn't a trainwreck yet.

Thinking about going elsewhere now though, or perhaps just not bothering with these kinds of sites at all for the time being. It may be against the rules for people to start posting replies recommending "rival" sites, but perhaps if there are better (maybe private) alternatives I would appreciate a PM from some of the less toxic users that still remain here...
 

isishearmyplea

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yea. . . the posts in the impact of hairloss are so depressing, no offence to those guys. .i pray they find a way to get over with it . . . . you are on your meds, i think its best not to come to these sites, unless god forbid you face some problem. BTT has better content to offer lately, but it takes time to activate an account. I kind of blame the reputation system, it enocurages people to post more depressing stuff . . again no offence to the guys over there.
 

The Far Side

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Thanks isis, and to the people who PM'd me. Got a couple of negs for starting this topic, apparantly I'm in the minority for wanting "tell your story" etc. to be more active rather than the neverending nofap troll and people fishing for upvotes with their version of how male pattern baldness is a death sentence (or variations on that) in the impact forum...
 

maher

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Thanks isis, and to the people who PM'd me. Got a couple of negs for starting this topic, apparantly I'm in the minority for wanting "tell your story" etc. to be more active rather than the neverending nofap troll and people fishing for upvotes with their version of how male pattern baldness is a death sentence (or variations on that) in the impact forum...

If you want to be more active start by rubbing gingseng on your scalp, rather than starting this useless thread. no offense..
 

zzzzz

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maher when is your 1 year update success story coming with pics proving your regimen is effective?
 

The Far Side

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No I just want:

- stories and pictures of peoples' experience with various products, regimens.
- decent discussion about new treatments, developments in the industry etc.
- stories and photos about people's hair transplant experiences, discussion about who the best surgeons are in various regions

I want actual information. I like to read about other people's experiences with products and regimens before jumping in blindly and wasting 12 months trying a treatment out (when fighting male pattern baldness is a race against time). People coming in and going "male pattern baldness is a death sentence" and linking a picture of a noose herp derp give me upvotes does **** all. It doesn't bring anything new to the table it's just bull**** opinions and pandering to the negativity. When I finally decided to make an account on here things were much better, I don't know if that was an unusually good spell for the discussion on here or if the current drivel we're getting is an unusually bad spell.

Sure this might be a useless thread (in the off topic forum) for you trolls but I got some useful info from it. I imagine isis (the start of his name) refers to the Egyptian god.
 

frenchy

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yeap at first sight the forum seems very intresting full of information and helpfull people, too bad there is some rottenn apples who have spent too much time fighting and became despreates and hatfull..but there are still good people here
 

DoctorHouse

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I honestly think the reputation thing should be discontinued. I think people can pay attention to helpful posts and ignore ones that are not. The reputation thing is becoming more of a popularity contest than anything else. Chris I hope you read this and ask the admin to have a vote to keep it or discontinue it. I vote to get rid of it.
 

The Far Side

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Well I imagine 90% of people are just giving positive rep. I try to downvote awful posts and without fail the person will go and find one of my last forum posts and downvote it in retaliation, without reading it I bet. It discourages you from further downvoting if you care about having a positive rep of your own.
 

Notcoolanymore

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I originally came over to this site because it seemed to have more activity than BTT. I enjoyed getting into it with guys like baylife and coolmusti. More than that, I enjoyed that the majority of posters seemed to be well informed and balanced. The forum wasn't overly profin, but it wasn't strongly against finasteride either. This place was a good resource for guys that wanted to do something about their hair loss. It was a place where guys could come and learn about treatments and make an informed decision whether or not they wanted to treat their hair loss. Now this place has pretty much become propeciahelp part 2, a resource of useless information, and a breading ground for depression.
 

Quantum Cat

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A lot of this is why I don't post much here any more - that and the fact that browsing hairloss sites in general usually makes me feel more depressed and paranoid about things like side effects from finasteride.

It's why I've never bothered to join any other hairloss forums except a small UK forum that I joined before this one, but that's pretty dead now unfortunately. I've already immersed myself too much in the world of male pattern baldness and it usually just makes my life more negative.

This board has major problems and they're not easliy fixable. I've found with internet message boards in general - whatever the subject matter of the board - the best ones get a balance between too few posters with nothing going on, and far too many new posters that swamp a board and cause mayhem. gourmetstylewellness.com is definitely in the latter category.

there's a huge turnover of posters here - many sign up to ask questions and then leave when they get the answer rather than sticking around to help the community. Veteran posters hear the same questions asked over and over again and no longer have the energy to answer every single question, particularly the many crazy absurd questions - I've never facepalmed as much as I do reading gourmetstylewellness.com sometimes. I used to always try and correct or query posts that I felt were wrong or ignorant, but now I just can't be bothered. I'm too jaded.

Unfortunately there isn't a new generation of posters that can step up and fill the role of 'mentors'

The result is gourmetstylewellness.com is divided between acres and acres of threads by newbies that only get few or no responses, turning some forums into a wasteland; and a small group of diehard veterans who stick to their own specific forums and never venture outside - and can you blame them? There's very little sense of community here, and mainly it's to do with the board's size - not physical size, I mean the endless stream of new posters who register and never get involved. I got so dismayed with all of this that I gave up and left for a while. Don't know why I came back really - I must be a masochist :woot:


RE: Rep - I've seen rep systems on other boards and they almost always result in abuse, particularly on a board like this with many childish posters. It probably should be discontinued, but on the other hand don't take it too seriously. It's just a novelty really

The Impact section is very cynical but it allows people to vent their frustrations. I encourage people to make more optimistic threads in there.

Nonetheless, there are defintely some gems in amongst all the excrement - posters like Dr. House are always worth reading. And if you search hard enough you can usually find reasonable and sensible answers to questions.
 

2bald2young

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The main reason you don't hear much about the research front is simply because there isn't much news about it anymore other than the trails for like cb-03-01.And guys be realistic why does someone wants to go to a hair loss forum and write a his story, that according to you guys is very depressing which means his life is depressing but ok, in order to get a positief rep here, on a hair loss forum 0.o, why does someone want to show off how bad his life is... I think many people left this forum just because they gave up on the idea of a cure and just moved on. But yes I admit that much of the posts here don't give much information, people just want to get it off their chest you know and I don't blame them for that because some people on this forum really have bad luck.

IMO telling some people here that they are whining to much is like telling someone who is traumatised for example that he is whining and need to get over it. My point is you don't know what traumatised him and how he feels. What seems like not a big deal for someone can be a really big deal for someone else, people here are just judging others too fast.
 

resu

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Yes getting rid of the reputation system would be great.

Anyway regarding the content, this forum is mostly populated by young balding men so you can't expect different comments.
 

DoctorHouse

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A lot of this is why I don't post much here any more - that and the fact that browsing hairloss sites in general usually makes me feel more depressed and paranoid about things like side effects from finasteride.

It's why I've never bothered to join any other hairloss forums except a small UK forum that I joined before this one, but that's pretty dead now unfortunately. I've already immersed myself too much in the world of male pattern baldness and it usually just makes my life more negative.

This board has major problems and they're not easliy fixable. I've found with internet message boards in general - whatever the subject matter of the board - the best ones get a balance between too few posters with nothing going on, and far too many new posters that swamp a board and cause mayhem. gourmetstylewellness.com is definitely in the latter category.

there's a huge turnover of posters here - many sign up to ask questions and then leave when they get the answer rather than sticking around to help the community. Veteran posters hear the same questions asked over and over again and no longer have the energy to answer every single question, particularly the many crazy absurd questions - I've never facepalmed as much as I do reading gourmetstylewellness.com sometimes. I used to always try and correct or query posts that I felt were wrong or ignorant, but now I just can't be bothered. I'm too jaded.

Unfortunately there isn't a new generation of posters that can step up and fill the role of 'mentors'

The result is gourmetstylewellness.com is divided between acres and acres of threads by newbies that only get few or no responses, turning some forums into a wasteland; and a small group of diehard veterans who stick to their own specific forums and never venture outside - and can you blame them? There's very little sense of community here, and mainly it's to do with the board's size - not physical size, I mean the endless stream of new posters who register and never get involved. I got so dismayed with all of this that I gave up and left for a while. Don't know why I came back really - I must be a masochist :woot:


RE: Rep - I've seen rep systems on other boards and they almost always result in abuse, particularly on a board like this with many childish posters. It probably should be discontinued, but on the other hand don't take it too seriously. It's just a novelty really

The Impact section is very cynical but it allows people to vent their frustrations. I encourage people to make more optimistic threads in there.

Nonetheless, there are defintely some gems in amongst all the excrement - posters like Dr. House are always worth reading. And if you search hard enough you can usually find reasonable and sensible answers to questions.
Quantum Cat, thanks for the complement. I shed some tears reading it. I have pretty much "retired" from this forum. Once in while if I see a thread I like, I will respond but other than that I have stepped back. I think people like you and Primo always have some good advice too. I realize my addiction to hair loss forums was just a manifestation of my tendency towards obsessive compulsive behavior. Although mine is very mild and more centered on body image, I still know its definitely stems from anxiety too.
 

mikey mike

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Personally I prefer BTT because I use my phone a lot for forums and this site's mobile version is terrible. It doesn't show what the recent posts on the site or in the threads (you have to actually go into the subforums or whatever to see the recent activity on the site). At least BTT just takes you to the desktop version when you use it on your phone which is way better than this site's mobile version. Also the mods there don't lock threads simply because they don't like the treatment being discussed (I only know of one time this happened here but it still happened). I mainly started commenting on this site because its way more popular for some reason. From the sound of it most ppl here don't like BTT because they don't like Spencer and they don't like Spencer because he doesn't talk about hair loss science research enough. That's not what Spencer's show is supposed to be though its more about the impact of hair loss in our lives, if y'all want someone to talk about the Chinese cloning hair roots or whatever make your own damn show.

And if y'all don't want to talk about no fap or whatever don't. Start your own thread and don't click on the ones you're not interested in. Its really that easy. And I really don't care about the reputation system. Go ahead give me some negative points for this one, don't care.
 

DoctorHouse

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Personally I prefer BTT because I use my phone a lot for forums and this site's mobile version is terrible. It doesn't show what the recent posts on the site or in the threads (you have to actually go into the subforums or whatever to see the recent activity on the site). At least BTT just takes you to the desktop version when you use it on your phone which is way better than this site's mobile version. Also the mods there don't lock threads simply because they don't like the treatment being discussed (I only know of one time this happened here but it still happened). I mainly started commenting on this site because its way more popular for some reason. From the sound of it most ppl here don't like BTT because they don't like Spencer and they don't like Spencer because he doesn't talk about hair loss science research enough. That's not what Spencer's show is supposed to be though its more about the impact of hair loss in our lives, if y'all want someone to talk about the Chinese cloning hair roots or whatever make your own damn show.

And if y'all don't want to talk about no fap or whatever don't. Start your own thread and don't click on the ones you're not interested in. Its really that easy. And I really don't care about the reputation system. Go ahead give me some negative points for this one, don't care.
I don't think too many people here have anything against Spencer. As long as I have been here, his name barely comes up. Personally, Spencer reminds me so much of myself, that I enjoy listening to his show all the time. I am glad he changed his format with Joe from Staten Island. Joe was too negative for the show.
 

ladysmanfelpz

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Ya I have been saying doctor house has been the man for a while. Every one of his posts is intriguing and with good advice based on facts or experience. He doesn't b**ch or whine like most people on here. And speaking of that, are you a real doctor house?

But I totally agree with this thread. Everyone here is just coming to vent and b**ch about hairloss. Its supposed to be a support community where people can help each other and give advice on treatment, but now it is just trolls that turn each other down for their hairloss. Its now a website of people fighting against their own. You are a hairloss sufferer so you are worthless now. So much for support.

Its bad news because I can see it turning into something bad soon, where young men will get more depressed or try experimental treatment that can severely affect their health just for hair. **** I took oral spironolactone at one point because of this bald bashing and looked into experimental treatment as I believed doctors didn't want to help people out. Could have severely messed me up, and I am scared with kids discussing dutasteride and other drugs that they will reach a point of no return and alter their bodies permanently. I think everyone in this thread is of older age and interested in hairloss and seeking treatment for the right reasons. Too many men on here are of young age and looking into drugs for purely aesthetic purposes trying to appeal more to the opposite sex. I'm only 24 but my views have completely shifted which I think most of you will agree with, is to maintaining hair for professional and hygiene related issues.

I have no problem with the reputation system, although I have only received positive comments. I didn't even know it existed until I saw in my notifications that I was getting positive remarks. I think it is cool and helps people identify who is truly here to help each other out, but I too am sick of seeing high regards for Fred and the like that think of the most insightful, well written post to bash on baldness. I like the guy, but it seems like the bald bashers keep trying to one up each other on how miserable and debilitating of a 'disease' this is. I am for keeping the reputation system, although I think the negative posts should be kept to a check if not locked immediately. Any suicidal or pure rant without a purpose should be closed or locked by an admin. A vent with some facts or experience may be kept to limits as it may be helpful to hear that other young men go through the same thing as we do, as some people may not really have any friends or social support to discuss about their situation. Admins or experienced guys should jump in and calm the whiners when they classify this normal part of aging as death by alopecia.
 

resu

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male pattern baldness isn't normal or part of aging. It's a condition that some people have, you think having a constant itch is normal? I get it, the negative comments may get to some of you but I only have a problem with puahate type comments, if people want to vent then let them, where else are we going to moan about male pattern baldness? Even bald men in real life don't comment on baldness to each other.

I'm not giving up on life because I read some negative comments on a forum, I can think for myself.
 

Notcoolanymore

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I will say that since joining hair loss forums, my whole outlook on baldness has changed. I used to look at my reflection and get depressed about the condition of my hair. I was not confident in my appearance at all. That was pretty much the extent of it. I wasn't really concerned about what women thought about me, since I was in a long term relationship. After spending a few weeks on the forums my depression was taken to a totally different level. I started to think more and more about what others thought about me. I feared turning slick bald because of how society would start treating me. I started to believe that being bald was just plain unacceptable, no if's and's or but's. I used to be someone that thought about hair loss when I looked in the mirror. Now I think about it throughout the day. It has become an unhealthy obsession.
 
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