The woods technique a load of crap...

KiLLuMiNaTi

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has anyone heard of this http://www.thewoodstechnique.com i am going to have a consultation with him soon hes office is only 10 minutes drive from where i live...with hes opertaion there is no scarring he takes out one hair at a time look at the website
 
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As respectfully as I can say it, there is no such thing as a "scarless" surgical procedure in hair transplants. That term has and continues to be used very loosely. :roll:

ANYTIME an incision, cut, laceration, wound, etc is made into flesh tissue, the body heals itself partly by mending the wound with scar tissue/matter. Trust me, it's there. :freaked:

The real issue or question is "how visible is the scarring" from these isolated extraction methods principally known as FUE. I have personally viewed many of these cases post-op done by different FUE surgeons. In some cases, once complete healing has taken place, I absolutely could not tell where the extractions were done and these were also smaller procedures at say 1200 grafts or less. The other notable factors were those patients healed very well and their color contrasts were more narrow. Of those cases I have visibly viewed, most were first time patients having a virgin scalp to work with. So I take these factors into account along with other varying distinctions such as a tendency for some patients to have a lingering redness from the wounds even after complete surface healing of the epidermis. Possibly the variance in their collagen levels, etc are factors in post-op appearance in the donor zones. Some folks unfortunately just do not heal well and end up with scarring that is quite visual. But they are in the minority just like keloiding.

In the same token let me also say that I have seen cases where the scarring was indeed evident with a "white dots" look or what some refer to as a "moth-eaten" appearance. :freaked: This was mostly noticable on "some" of the larger cases where thousands of grafts were extracted, wide color contrasts, etc.

So it is really a matter of personal preference with each individual patient. I chose to have three FUT strip procedures and currently have a "very thin" linear scar that has healed very well on all three hair transplants. I never will choose to wear a buzz cut or even real short hair styles simply because I like to show off my hair whether others know it's transplanted or not. I mean I did not get three hair transplants to subsequently cut it all off nor do a very high percent of hair transplant patients. :hairy:

But all that being said, if you still feel FUE is the best approach for yourself, just know that Dr. Ray Woods is a very talented competent hands-on FUE surgeon. So is his sister Dr. Angela Campbell. I don't believe Dr. Woods has ever done strip procedures but I stand to be corrected on that point. Either way just do your homework on the pros and cons of these varied isolated extraction methods of harvest. Best wishes to you. :wink:
 

KiLLuMiNaTi

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dr woods is a complete wanker..i repeat doctor woods is a complete wanker.i went to see him ..and i could tell he couldnt be trusted the first minute talking to him
 

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You met him between your first and second post?

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KiLLuMiNaTi

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yeah i first made this topic before my consultation .my reply was after consultation
 

KiLLuMiNaTi

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man he was telling me there is no hope in keeping the rest of my hair and that he had never seen results with propecia and that in 20 years time propecia could give me eosteoporosis if thats how you spell it..also for only 250 grafts (which i only need) he wanted to charge me $4500 ,screw that man...i think other doctors use the singular folicle tecnique dont they? it wouldnt be only this prick?
 
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Kill as Gillenator said theres no such thing as scarless surgery in the hair game. I have seen patients after FUE with a buzz cut of number 2 and you can see the white little dots everywhere.Personally i went down that avenue with Dr Woods and found it to be over the top in price.Strip surgery you get far bigger bang for your buck in my opinion.Larger procedures strip is the way togo.

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KiLLuMiNaTi

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yeah strip is cheaper but the scaring isnt something i want..i want the option to shave my hair short if i want to ..i just wanna know is this woods techinique a load of bullplop do all surgeons use this technique and this pricks taking the credit ?? or is he really the only guy?
 
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Damo,

I could not agree with you more and your results have been just outstanding. You also took the time to research and choose a good surgeon!

Kill,

No Dr. Woods is not the only talented FUE surgeon to choose from, but he did found and pioneer these isolated extraction methods. Sorry to hear of your unpleasant experience with him. That can be discouraging.

Are you sure you want to do a procedure as small as 250 grafts? Possibly you just want to stay on top of your appearance with the smaller numbers so you do not have a big transition with that. That's understandable. It can also be a more affordable approach considering current FUE pricing.

Hear me out on this one. IF it is extremely important to you to be able to buzz-cut your scalp and wear extremely short hair, number 1&2 cutting guide, think a hair transplant through carefully. And if you have darker pigmentation in your complexion including the scalp, the white dots could show even more pronounced in the summer months. That's when the intense ultra-violet rays tan our skin and if you wear your hair with a buzz there is a greater chance of the white dots showing against the tanned or darker scalp. They may stand out more visually speaking unless of course you elect to wear a cap to prevent your scalp from tanning. But that can be somewhat self-defeating of getting a hair transplant to begin with. Does that make any sense?

Also, I don't think 250 extractions are going to make a big difference in the appearance in the buzzed donor area. BUT, once anyone starts surgical hair restoration, you can bet your boots that they will need more, want more in the coming years as their genetic hairloss progresses with time. So either way you look at it, more hair is taken from the donor whether you do strip or FUE. Some patients will do strip in the bigger numbers as Damo was referring to to get the best yields and resulting coverage. They then intend to have FUs implanted in their linear scar with FUE methods after their strip work is done. There are some who elect to not have a hair transplant procedure at all because of this concern of scarring.

But everyone is different in their own individual goals and aspirations so obviously lots of consideration must be weighed in the balance. One other thing, has Propecia (finasteride) been effective for you? I am not a physician but I CAN convey to you that I know of literally thousands of men that have experienced very good results with finasteride. It does in fact slow down the hairloss from male pattern baldness for a very high percent of those men who take it for a year or longer and there is quite alot of clinical data which also supports it.

So if you are uncomfortable with Dr. Woods, there are others to research and best wishes to you in your pursuit.
 
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Gill your totally right.FUE does scar theres no two ways about it and people that say it doesnt are lying as i have seen the results on numerous people.Kill i think that 250 grafts really wouldnt be worth your while in my opinion.Kill lots of surgeons are doing FUE you just need to research alot of different surgeons but you will all find they charge like wounded bulls!

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lol thanks for the advice fellas...i only need 250 to look my age 23 i have the hairline of a guy whos 30 ..you know the hairline where the temples are heading back and the frontal hairline has receided about 5mm nothing to crazy (but i hate it)...so i just shave my head now and you cant notice it..if i was to get a hair transplant i wouldnt do a buzzcut i would have it atleast 2cm long ..but this woods guy really discouraged me..i know they say dont judge a book by its cover but just by looking at the guys face i could tell he was a snake and when he opened hes mouth geez it confirmed my first thought.
 
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You bet Damo and that's why I always just shudder when anyone refers to it and especially would promote it as a SCARLESS procedure or technique! :freaked:

Kill,

If you only want 250 grafts than I agree FUE is probably a better way to approach it because FUE is ideal for the smaller procedures.
 

KiLLuMiNaTi

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sorry what does FUE mean?
 

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If you are intent on getting this done and intent on only 250 grafts then DO NOT GET ANY FORM OF STRIP PROCEDURE. Follicular Unit Extraction (FUE) will suit your needs far better and will allow you to maintain a buzz cut (or as near as, depending on the scarring) if later required.

I should point out though that I got a transplant at 23 - a rushed, naive decision that I've regretted ever since, I am glad to see your doing your research but do understand that your about to start on a long long road, a battle that you essentially will never win. Make sure your on the meds first (Propecia, minoxidil), something my damn clinic didn't inform me about before I went head first into a nonsensical decision.

250 grafts though is a small amount, a very small amount that might not make any difference (depending on shockloss). If you are transplanting into an area without hair then this will definately mean future procedures to prevent the 'island of hair syndrome'. If I were you I wouldn't do this, I'd get on the meds and stick with them. If you are intent on doing it then I'd go for a larger procedure, a procedure to evenly thicken up the frontal forelock (this is me merely suggesting, not seen your photos) so that when you do recede further you don't have just a few patches of hair dotted around but rather a persistant frontal forelock which will look far mroe natural.

With the advent of BHT and hair multiplication were essentially getting to a point where full resoration is possible however it is a long long road and these 'new' methods are far from being proven, with HM especially being (conservatively estimated) about 10 years away from reality. Just my thoughts......
 

KiLLuMiNaTi

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yeah see this is confusing..i only plan to get one transplant of 250 to reconstruct my front hairline ..i dont plan on getting anymore..shouldnt propecia stop hairloss?? so when you guys say i should plan on getting more sugery you mean ten years from now right?? if not then why the hell am i using propecia?? in my mind propecia will stop further hairloss so all i need is to fix the front and keep using propecia ,and i wont loose anymore hair?? am i wrong?
 

KiLLuMiNaTi

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yeah see this is confusing..i only plan to get one transplant of 250 to reconstruct my front hairline ..i dont plan on getting anymore..shouldnt propecia stop hairloss?? so when you guys say i should plan on getting more sugery you mean ten years from now right?? if not then why the hell am i using propecia?? in my mind propecia will stop further hairloss so all i need is to fix the front and keep using propecia ,and i wont loose anymore hair?? am i wrong? i atleast want my hair to last untill they invent hair cloning
 

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Honestly mate, 250 grafts is not going to do a lot of good - you aren't going to notice much difference (my opinion) and give it a year and you'll probably want more. Propecia/Proscar DOES NOT halt hairloss - it merely slows it down for a large percentage of people, you will continue to recede after this and therefore more treatments will be required......wether that be 1/2/5/10 years nobody knows but the hair gods!

Putting myself in your situation I would be reluctant to touch the temples - this is one thing I'm glad I didn't do and I don't really have any desire to at this present time. I think its dangerous for young guys who are reluctant to pursue this hair transplant road, if as I say you strengthen up the frontal third (you'd have to consider shockloss) that might buy you a bit more time. But the lnog and short of it is noone can predict where you'll end up, the meds will help but they won't cure your hairloss. Tread carefully.....
 

KiLLuMiNaTi

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screw that then man..im just gonna stay using propecia and keep shaving my head untill they invent cloning f**** if im gonna give my money to some scum bag snake doctor for FUE ...and even when i asked woods about genetic hair cloning he told me in these exact words "if they can do that they can cure cancer too' but he said it in a sarcastic way ,like it will never happen ..he also said propecia is poison and doesnt work...i think whatever works he calls bullshit or poison because its money out of hes pocket and thats all he really cares about...i wouldnt advise my worst enemy to go see that c**t ..man i feel like going back to hes office and decking him
 

KiLLuMiNaTi

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plus i dont wanna get scared by doing the strip thingy..i know it works best but i like to have the option to shave my head if i wanted to...so i think that cloning is the best thing for me to hope for later down the track...im also lucky because im one of them guys that looks better with a shaved head then with longer hair..but u know how it is every man wants a full head of hair no matter what :hairy: so for now i think ill keep taking .62.5 proscar everyday and continue to use nizoral everyday aswell and wait for something new to come along
 

KiLLuMiNaTi

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and i would say im a norwood 2.5 if there is such a thing
 
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