Thin skin: Full head bond - applying the system yourself

[Hair56]

Hi,

Does anybody do a full glue bond and apply the system by themself? If so what is your technique?

 

[deg_dilemma]

Yes I do this.

For the first couple of years I used to do a half/half method, where i would never actually take the whole system off my head. I would lift up the back half, clean off the glue, wash the scalp (back half) and then re-bond that area. Then I would lift up the front half and do the same. I found this easy to do and I never lost positioning.

Recently I have become better at removing the system entirely. I did this because I wanted to be able to have a 'proper' hot shower and to feel that I was really getting a good wash of my scalp. So I now just pull off the system completely and dab off the glue that is on the system - this takes about 10 minutes. I then scrape the glue off my scalp and wash my head thoroughly in the sink to get as much glue off as possible. I then shower as usual, again washing my scalp there. This feels so much better.

After the shower I dry the scalp properly and I lay the system on my head - without any glue - to position it. When I am happy with the positioning (which is never 100% same each time), I lift up the back half and bond it down. This secures the system and I can then lift and bond the front half.

It's a leap of faith to do the full removal/re-bond but the way I look at it is that no one will notice if your system is off by a few mm. Just keep it looking natural i.e. not too high or too low. Take the system off and you'll be forced to get it back on somehow

 

[Hair56]

Thanks for your reply. I currently have help with attaching, but would like to do the entire application myself, if travelling etc. My method is to attach the front half first, then lift the entire back half, then glue the rest and stretch and roll the system down. I was considering getting a three way mirror that way it would be easier when it comes to seeing the back of the head when glueing and stretching / rolling the back of the system so there is no creases.

 

[HairlessWhisper]

I lay the system on my head - without any glue - to position it. When I am happy with the positioning (which is never 100% same each time), I lift up the back half and bond it down. This secures the system and I can then lift and bond the front half.

Yes, this is what i do also except I usually bond the front half first, since i'm most fussy about the position of the hairline.

I use a handheld mirror for the back, which works fine but a 3 way mirror could be even better.

 

[Fanjeera]

Yes I do this.

For the first couple of years I used to do a half/half method, where i would never actually take the whole system off my head. I would lift up the back half, clean off the glue, wash the scalp (back half) and then re-bond that area. Then I would lift up the front half and do the same. I found this easy to do and I never lost positioning.

Recently I have become better at removing the system entirely. I did this because I wanted to be able to have a 'proper' hot shower and to feel that I was really getting a good wash of my scalp. So I now just pull off the system completely and dab off the glue that is on the system - this takes about 10 minutes. I then scrape the glue off my scalp and wash my head thoroughly in the sink to get as much glue off as possible. I then shower as usual, again washing my scalp there. This feels so much better.

After the shower I dry the scalp properly and I lay the system on my head - without any glue - to position it. When I am happy with the positioning (which is never 100% same each time), I lift up the back half and bond it down. This secures the system and I can then lift and bond the front half.

It's a leap of faith to do the full removal/re-bond but the way I look at it is that no one will notice if your system is off by a few mm. Just keep it looking natural i.e. not too high or too low. Take the system off and you'll be forced to get it back on somehow

Why back first? I do the same ,but front first.

 

[smoka123]

Why back first? I do the same ,but front first.

I do it the same way, back first.
It´s because I think if you have blank parts on the back / side of your head, it would be very bad . On the front you can see yourself anytime and hide some things when it doesn´t look that good.

 

[kdno1]

I found it very hard to clean the glue or tape from the system with out removing it completely. I can clean the front but that back is very hard to clean with half/half method,

I struggle with the positioning part as well

 

[Fanjeera]

I do it the same way, back first.
It´s because I think if you have blank parts on the back / side of your head, it would be very bad . On the front you can see yourself anytime and hide some things when it doesn´t look that good.

Blank parts?

 

[smoka123]

Blank parts?

sorry I mean a gap between the system and your hair

 

[deg_dilemma]

No reason really. Once you have laid down the system - without glue - then you know where it will land, so there isn't much risk in getting the hairline placement wrong. Once the back is suck down then I can spend as much time as needed on the hairline without rushing. My main aim with the hairline is making the UTS disappear best it can ... it's never perfect but I do what I can.

 

[Fanjeera]

No reason really. Once you have laid down the system - without glue - then you know where it will land, so there isn't much risk in getting the hairline placement wrong. Once the back is suck down then I can spend as much time as needed on the hairline without rushing. My main aim with the hairline is making the UTS disappear best it can ... it's never perfect but I do what I can.

Why would doing them in the opposite order cause you to rush the hairline?

 

[cottonReville]

I've finally gotten it down more or less - & using scalp protector has made the bond, using Ghostbond Platinum, *INFINITELY SUPERIOR*.

This is how I do it:

I apply scalp protector, let it dry (doesn't take long).

I put the unit on my head, positioning it the way it worn.

I fold back the front half, applying glue to the middle of my head, which anchors the unit in place.

After that, I apply glue to the front, sides & back, & I'm done.

Two or so layers, applied by finger (routinely rinsed before the glue gets too sticky), with hair drying, no cool, in between.

It's quite time consuming - but manageable.

The real issue is I wasn't getting the hold I wanted out of any Ghostbond product before using scalp protector.

 

[Fanjeera]

I've finally gotten it down more or less - & using scalp protector has made the bond, using Ghostbond Platinum, *INFINITELY SUPERIOR*.

This is how I do it:

I apply scalp protector, let it dry (doesn't take long).

I put the unit on my head, positioning it the way it worn.

I fold back the front half, applying glue to the middle of my head, which anchors the unit in place.

After that, I apply glue to the front, sides & back, & I'm done.

Two or so layers, applied by finger (routinely rinsed before the glue gets too sticky), with hair drying, no cool, in between.

It's quite time consuming - but manageable.

The real issue is I wasn't getting the hold I wanted out of any Ghostbond product before using scalp protector.

You do the middle, wait 4 mins? And then do front, sides and back simultaneously? How?

 

[cottonReville]

You do the middle, wait 4 mins? And then do front, sides and back simultaneously? How?

Middle first. Can't put a time on it as it depends on variables.

I blow dry on cool to speed things along.

And, no, I don't them simultaneously - front to back.

 

[Fanjeera]

Middle first. Can't put a time on it as it depends on variables.

I blow dry on cool to speed things along.

And, no, I don't them simultaneously - front to back.

Confusing. The instructions say you have to wait 4 mins before laying anything down. So the less you do simultaneously, the more times you have to wait again those 4 mins. So you lay the glue on the middle part, WAIT, attach the hairpiece there, you lay the glue in the front, stop and wait again, lay the hairpiece there, and finally as a 3rd part you do the back separately with its own waiting time?

 

[Fanjeera]

So yesterday I did the back first and for some reason it made me feel more in control and felt better. Can't understand why exactly.

 

[deg_dilemma]

So yesterday I did the back first and for some reason it made me feel more in control and felt better. Can't understand why exactly.

Because you can't easily see the back so once it's down then you know the rest is easy

 

[Fanjeera]

Because you can't easily see the back so once it's down then you know the rest is easy

Yeah, it actually made aligning everything easier. By doing the back last it seems to be more of a hit-and-miss.

 

[Fanjeera]

Someone wrote that by doing the back last you hide the imperfections in the back. But that actually made me more insecure, because you cannot see and control the back in your life as much. Seems like I learned something fundamental here finally after a long time and 6 years of wearing.

 

[cottonReville]

Confusing. The instructions say you have to wait 4 mins before laying anything down. So the less you do simultaneously, the more times you have to wait again those 4 mins. So you lay the glue on the middle part, WAIT, attach the hairpiece there, you lay the glue in the front, stop and wait again, lay the hairpiece there, and finally as a 3rd part you do the back separately with its own waiting time?

Ya, I just do it in pieces. Whatever suits you. I just like having the piece secured & well-positioned before going to town.

It's the use of scalp protector that's changed things for me mostly, though. The difference has been crazy for me.