This guy has a great toupee

[ToupMaster]

Its not really a Toupee, pretty sure its that strand by strand $#iT that you can get. Hence the plastic look its probably the mesh thing they put over your head. But i could be wrong.

"Strand by Strand" is simply a marketing line used by one or more major marketers. It is simply a method of putting or tying the hairs one at a time onto the mesh or injecting them into a poly like base. Earlier "Rugs" used to bundle from 5 to 10 hairs into each knot for quick coverage of the base. When a hair is doubled over and knotted you get two hairs coming out of each knot.. when you start with 5 to 10 you get 10 to 20 hairs coming out of each knot.... Which would look more natural? Strand by Strand of course, which takes longer to construct than the old method.

"Toupee" is the French word for "Little Wig". It is a word that is fitting for a mens unit but is out of favor in todays world... hence the new and every changing terminolgy used by todays marketers of mens Hair Replacements. Non Surgical Skin Graft seems to be one of the favorites at the moment. But no matter what you call it... it is a form of Toupee

 

[SE-freak]

Non Surgical Skin Graft seems to be one of the favorites at the moment.

Yeah, and I am not going bald, I just have an alternate hair allocation pattern.

 

[Dave001]

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So, you can spend a hour in the bathroom, carefully trimming away glue residue from your piece and in the hair, conditioning it for a half hour, then rinsing it, waiting another hour for it to dry, then applying the glue JUST right to the back of your affected area.. then laying that piece on the back of your head and letting it soak into the glue... holding it in place for 3-4 minutes to make sure it is aligned perfectly, and that there is enough clearance in the front to "look natural" as far as hairline is concerned.

Then, get out the tape, and expertly snip several pieces so that they EXACTLY align with the lace front and stay down where it counts. Then the final few dollops of adhesive onto the side anchor points, giving them a good tug to make sure the piece is FLAT on the head.

Then you have to let sit a half hour so the glue dries, before styling. One more check around the perimiter of the piece to make sure that none of the glue oozed out from under it and got into the surrounding hair.

Then comes the styling... because the hair does not grow, you have to be EXTRA careful with it. At the piece shop, they told me to ONLY use wide-toothed combs to style with. Gotta blend the back of the piece with the back of the natural hair... takes a few minutes to "fluff" and "feather" this area so that the dividing line between fake hair and real is not a distinct line, but instead kind of "fluffed" just right to look kind of blended in. Then, the front. Styling the front of a hairpiece requires a degree in architecture. You have to have a part somewhere, so you have to fuk with it until you can part your hair, but somehow get the bangs of your hair to fall in front of the part so that nobody can look down your part line and see the opaque base that lies deeper in. This is easy to do with a new piece, after 5 months or so, gets very HARD to do because you are usually messing with the same hairs on the piece in this area. The daily wear you put on the hairs in the front of your fake part-line make this part of the toupee go thin and brittle FIRST, and makes this the most time consuming part of the styling process.

Mind you, if you got any glue in your head, you had to interrupt the entire process, and get out the alcohol to remove it. Then wait for the hair to dry, and continue from there, etc etc... that thing just eliminated about 70% of my ability to be spontaneous in life...

You make it sound so easy! ;-)

Seriously, I can't understand how anyone can tolerate wearing those things, for the reasons that you describe. I'd never wear one. I'd rather be balder than a cue ball than to allow a piece of fur to restrict my lifestyle.

Advances in polymer engineering will soon allow one to spray his or her hair style of choice on.

 

[misterium]

^ talk to me about those advances.

 

[Solo]

Advances in polymer engineering will soon allow one to spray his or her hair style of choice on.

Are you serious???

As a chemistry/material engineer graduate I´ve thought about it some times.

A daily application of hair-like fibers that perfectly attach to the scalp or existing hair, creating the hair-style of your choice in just a couple of minutes.

I also have been thinking in the tits of Katerin Zeta-Jones and viable ways to have them in my mouth.

 

[Dave001]

As a chemistry/material engineer graduate I´ve thought about it some times.

In what country did you attend school? Just curious.

A daily application of hair-like fibers that perfectly attach to the scalp or existing hair, creating the hair-style of your choice in just a couple of minutes.

I do think the potential future of polymer science and related technologies is an interesting question, although I was only joking about the instant spray on head of hair.

Concerning synthetic hair:
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Panminerva Med. 2000 Mar;42(1):49-53.

Evaluation of polyamide synthetic hair.

Palmieri B, Griselli G, D'Ugo A, Palmieri G, Salti G.

Department of Surgery, University of Modena, Italy.

BACKGROUND: Different methods of hair restoration surgery exist: expanders, rotation flaps, autotransplantation and artificial hair implant. METHODS: The authors reviewed 196 patients who underwent hair implantation 2 years before with a highly biocompatible polyamide fiber. Indications, contraindications and complications of the procedure are outlined. RESULTS: Clinical subjective and photographic objective judgement, evaluation of Hamilton scale grading and covered area rate show very satisfactory improvements. Relevant adverse events were limited to 1.02%. CONCLUSIONS: A careful medical follow-up with regular scalp check-up minimizes complications to a very acceptable rate and overall results are definitely satisfying.

PMID: 11019605
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The obvious problem with such an approach relates to the attachment of the hairs with the scalp. You want something that is self-sustaining like real hair (at least, it used to be self-sustaining).

I also have been thinking in the tits of Katerin Zeta-Jones and viable ways to have them in my mouth.

Though I'm having a bit of difficulty visualizing the spatial relationship, I'd imagine that's a pleasant place to think.

 

[Solo]

In what country did you attend school? Just curious.

In Spain. I´ve studied three years of chemistry, and now I´m almost done with two more on materials engineer.

Though I´m not specialized in polymers, but metalurgy and construction instead. What a pity, I´ve could discovered the final solution.

 

[MichiganBaldy]

thats me, and my rug

Thats my rug we`re all admiring :lol:
Um....my skin is not plastic though. Pictures on the web can make some things look a bit off

I actually have a before and after video, if anyone wants a copy.

Its free, just send me an e-mail j.wl@verizon.net or PM me.

 

[Overflow1114]

The amount of misinformation about hair systems and toupees in this thread is mindbogglingly staggering. While posts like The Gardeners may have been true about older styles of systems, and while they may still be true about the commercialized ridiculous looking monstrosities put out there by the big chain companies that want to charge you $2,000 a unit, the reputable companies can and do make units that are completely undetectable to even the most trained eye. Yes, it does require some maintenance and discipline on the part of the wearer, but nowhere near the amount purported in this thread. Anyone considering going this route would be doing themselves a HUGE favor to take Michigan Baldy's advice and check out his video. It takes you through everything about wearing systems from design, to styling, to attachment, to where to find great and realistic looking and modern units affordably. And to those saying that his unit is not real, the video proves that not only is it real (he attaches, removes, and even cuts in several of these units), but it really looks as good as those photos... maybe even better.

 

[Dave001]

In what country did you attend school? Just curious.

In Spain. I´ve studied three years of chemistry, and now I´m almost done with two more on materials engineer.

That's cool. Certainly you have access to Spanish science and medical literature then. How is androgenetic alopecia treated in clinical practice in Spain? Is it treated differently from the way it is in the United States?

Though I´m not specialized in polymers, but metalurgy and construction instead. What a pity, I´ve could discovered the final solution.

Don't despair. I'm sure that you can find plenty about polymers in the library, without the need for a teacher to read passages to you. Thanks to the Internet, you have a plethora of resources at your disposal if you get stumped on something specific.

 

[Dave001]

The amount of misinformation about hair systems and toupees in this thread is mindbogglingly staggering. While posts like The Gardeners may have been true about older styles of systems, and while they may still be true about the commercialized ridiculous looking monstrosities put out there by the big chain companies that want to charge you $2,000 a unit, the reputable companies can and do make units that are completely undetectable to even the most trained eye. Yes, it does require some maintenance and discipline on the part of the wearer, but nowhere near the amount purported in this thread. Anyone considering going this route would be doing themselves a HUGE favor to take Michigan Baldy's advice and check out his video. It takes you through everything about wearing systems from design, to styling, to attachment, to where to find great and realistic looking and modern units affordably. And to those saying that his unit is not real, the video proves that not only is it real (he attaches, removes, and even cuts in several of these units), but it really looks as good as those photos... maybe even better.

Hey spammer, the neighbor's cat is pissing on your rug.

 

[SE-freak]

Re: thats me, and my rug

Um....my skin is not plastic though.

I did not mean to be insulting. My skin would probably look worse.

If you have indeed created this piece yourself, you are extremely skillful.

 

[MichiganBaldy]

Oh I`m not offended, I take alot of pics and post them on the web and I realize the flash and other factors can make things look different.
I could take a picture of my hair dry as can be, and if the lighting is right it`ll look like it has hair gel slathered all over in it.

Overflow, my free video shows before and afters, but it doesnt show all that which you mentioned.
Thats the other....... secret.....video......

 

[Overflow1114]

Hey Michigan Baldy,

I didn't realize you had a new version of it though I suppose it makes sense if you're now giving a version away for free.

As for you Dave,

Call me whatever names you like. The video speaks for itself.

 

[The Gardener]

Guys, I wasn't expecting this thread, with my essay about the negative experience I had with a hairpiece, to be moved over here.

Despite the bad experience I had, I don't talk about it over here in the hair systems forum because I don't want to add any negativity over here amongst discussions between people who might be having a better experience with their hairpiece than I did. I was originally venting some emotions, and not trying to demean anyone for whom a hairpiece might be a useful tool, and fit, for their lifestyles.

 

[Solo]

That's cool. Certainly you have access to Spanish science and medical literature then. How is androgenetic alopecia treated in clinical practice in Spain? Is it treated differently from the way it is in the United States?

Well, you know Dr. Morailes?? He is a top doctor in the area of hair-loss and other homosexuality related diseases. He just published a couple os sheets about "Dangerous maneuvers for nizoral users" and "bad usage of a*** finasteride" based in clinical trials in many many dark-rooms all over our glorious country.

I was joking. I have no idea of medical or science literature, I just read class books and the newspapers, If I found it free, wrapping out from a paper-box.

Don't despair. I'm sure that you can find plenty about polymers in the library, without the need for a teacher to read passages to you. Thanks to the Internet, you have a plethora of resources at your disposal if you get stumped on something specific.

I know, but you know... I find metallic structures, welding calculations and concrete literature quite time-consuming. So, I hope you understand, I´m not in the mood when I arrive home, for start reading about polymers designed for hair-cammouflage. :lol:

Also, I think that now we have the "myth of the easy-learning". It´s not "go get the info and you´ll know". You cannot turn a bus driver and put him in front of a text and make him become a doctor in a couple of days. There´s formation required. Not just teorical formation, also criteria, and critic spirit for an excat judgement of the data, facts and conclusions presented. You need to know maths, you need to know stadistics, you need to know biochemistry... apart from the thing itself you are studying.

If not we are condemned to commit mistakes. People here tends to read three or four things about a matter, and think they have mastered the whole thing, and therefore assuming critical decissions based on a half-baked knowledge, all of this with a great confidence. As you´ll probably know, there´s nothing exact and completely verificable, and what it´s supposed to be, it´s not too different from a guess. So if we are going to make a step, we have to be sure we have ground under our foot.

But I don´t wanna sound snob, as I don´t want to discourage anybody into getting to read and acquire knowledge. Far from this. It´s just the way and the methods implicated what I critizised.

Majority of people here think they know way much than a common dermatologist about male pattern baldness. For example. Do you think this is appropiate?

 

[Dave001]

Don't despair. I'm sure that you can find plenty about polymers in the library, without the need for a teacher to read passages to you. Thanks to the Internet, you have a plethora of resources at your disposal if you get stumped on something specific.

I know, but you know... I find metallic structures, welding calculations and concrete literature quite time-consuming. So, I hope you understand, I´m not in the mood when I arrive home, for start reading about polymers designed for hair-cammouflage. :lol:

Most people aren't. It sounded like you were. Only you know what interests you.

Also, I think that now we have the "myth of the easy-learning". It´s not "go get the info and you´ll know". You cannot turn a bus driver and put him in front of a text and make him become a doctor in a couple of days. There´s formation required. Not just teorical formation, also criteria, and critic spirit for an excat judgement of the data, facts and conclusions presented. You need to know maths, you need to know stadistics, you need to know biochemistry... apart from the thing itself you are studying.

It's likely that I'd agree with you (at least partially) if it weren't for the language barrier, but as it is, I'm not certain to what you're referring. Yes, concepts build on one another in the hard sciences in a way that's very different from most other subjects.

If not we are condemned to commit mistakes. People here tends to read three or four things about a matter, and think they have mastered the whole thing, and therefore assuming critical decissions based on a half-baked knowledge, all of this with a great confidence.

Most people are idiots, yes.

As you´ll probably know, there´s nothing exact and completely verificable,

That is verifiably false.

But I don´t wanna sound snob, as I don´t want to discourage anybody into getting to read and acquire knowledge. Far from this. It´s just the way and the methods implicated what I critizised.

Do you mean here? In the forums? Hairloss forums are not the place for academic inquiry; they are a place for entertainment.

 

[Solo]

Most people aren't. It sounded like you were. Only you know what interests you.

Ok, but even if I have interest in that matter, it would be quite frustrating for me to learn more about it. You can´t do nothing about it, just getting the knowledge. I´m not able to conduce any research, or to study the depths of the polymer-fibres, so I just let it be and pray for a solution to this problem. I´m going to get a lot more peace of mind.

It's likely that I'd agree with you (at least partially) if it weren't for the language barrier, but as it is, I'm not certain to what you're referring. Yes, concepts build on one another in the hard sciences in a way that's very different from most other subjects.

It´s not just the way the concepts build what I was talking about. It´s the neccesity of several fields of knowledge in a particular matter, apart from the one implicated in that matter itself. This is something usually neglected, and it´s easy that people forget about it.

i.e.: You have to do a clinical trial that involves a variation of hair fiber diameter becouse of the use of certain lotion.
You don´t have to just know dermatology or scalp physiollogy. You have to know the instrumentation used, precission, stadistics and numerical analisis. By using one or another algorithm the result of the study can vary. If you don´t the method of calibration of the instruments, results can vary...etc, etc...

Solo wrote:
But I don´t wanna sound snob, as I don´t want to discourage anybody into getting to read and acquire knowledge. Far from this. It´s just the way and the methods implicated what I critizised.


Do you mean here? In the forums? Hairloss forums are not the place for academic inquiry; they are a place for entertainment.

No, I didn´t mean "here" (but I haven´t excluded it), but I think here you can find useful information. As I said above, I´m more interested in the "user" aspects of hairloss treatments than researching for the answer through serious studies and data.

Also it´s fun to see here proper pseudo scientific discussion, like the ones with S Foote.

 

[Dave001]

It´s not just the way the concepts build what I was talking about. It´s the neccesity of several fields of knowledge in a particular matter, apart from the one implicated in that matter itself. This is something usually neglected, and it´s easy that people forget about it.

i.e.: You have to do a clinical trial that involves a variation of hair fiber diameter becouse of the use of certain lotion.
You don´t have to just know dermatology or scalp physiollogy. You have to know the instrumentation used, precission, stadistics and numerical analisis. By using one or another algorithm the result of the study can vary. If you don´t the method of calibration of the instruments, results can vary...etc, etc...

Yes, that's a very good point, especially if you want to scrutinize the analytical procedures used in a study. There are so many places in which errors can be introduced. And we're also forced to have some degree of trust in the authors; e.g., did the author drop a Junior Mint into one of the lab specimens without telling us? ;-) Critical thinking and reading skills are extremely important when interpreting data, yet it appears that they're often the most underdeveloped skills, unfortunately.

No, I didn´t mean "here" (but I haven´t excluded it), but I think here you can find useful information. As I said above, I´m more interested in the "user" aspects of hairloss treatments than researching for the answer through serious studies and data.

Also it´s fun to see here proper pseudo scientific discussion, like the ones with S Foote.

I agree. They're an excellent demonstration of the potential consequences of a psyche that goes awry.

 

[ToupMaster]

Ummm, there was a pretty good string of Hair Piece information starting here, but I see Solo and Dave001 have been able to bring it to a screaching halt by going off topic with their multiple quotes and self inflating meanderings into some unrelated regions. Thanks!