This is Truly The End of the World

Alteri

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Hey guys, I have to say as a fellow young male pattern baldness sufferer, this forum is very interesting. This forum is like a mirror into my own subconscious. It is a cesspool of negativity where everything society refuses to (openly) acknowledge about baldness festers like a pile of rotting pig fetuses. I started losing my hair at 14 and now I will be turning 22 and have had basically a NW5 for a couple years that I buzz with no guard about once a week. Along with a whole bunch of personality problems, low self esteem, laziness, etc, I have felt really *****y about being bald (although no where near the extent as many of you). I can say at least that I am finally starting to get a hold of my mental state and I am getting on track to improve my social life.

I've come to realize that the one big, real and painful negative of being bald that really hurts is that your ability to get hookups is limited unless you have other major things going for you. Unless you look great otherwise or have an amazing personality or are really good at something, girls just won't think of you as a hot guy that they want to impregnate them. Honestly, even most guys with hair can't do this. 20% of the men have 80% of the sex and sperm is cheap, so unless you are superior in some way, you're not going to fare too well in the polygamy game, especially if you have really high standards. It sucks, but is this really the end of the world? Is having a relatively normal looking girlfriend that you find attractive and makes you happy really that horrible of a thing?

The thing that I have realized recently is what confidence actually is. It is not just some made up concept made to make miserable c*nts like us feel completely worthless, like we want to be this way, but it is the ability to do what you want to do, when you want to do it. It is the ability to face extreme fear when others cower and run. It is the ability to put in the work every day to build something great. It is the ability to not care if some people judge you and talk to people with charm regardless of some harsh comments. It is really the most important trait of being a man, and although I know it doesn't seem that way, it is infinitely more valuable than having hair.

What really bothers me is that you all act like a bunch of pathetic women. You act like the only point of your life is the sit around an be pretty and have women come choose you because you are hot. We are men. We evolved to hunt and make inventions and kill each other. You treat your looks as important as if we are girls. But really the problem is with your pathetic personalities. I think deep down we all know this, but obsessing over baldness is sort of an excuse to be a complete failure at life.

I know this is kind of a rant and I am writing this mostly for myself, but I hope I can reach some of you guys to stop feeling sorry for yourselves and realize that this isn't that big a deal. I saw one of you say that you are now over 40, but that you have been "40 since you were 17". This is so sad and pathetic, it pains me for anyone to go through life like that. Come on, you still have your youth, you can still learn and play sports and build an amazing company and even have genuine success with women if you manage to really put your mind to it. I know that I have a long way to go and that it's hard, but really you are the reason that baldness is so hated and demeaned by society.

We are men, and it is okay to be an ugly man if you are good at something, have a lot of money, are fun to be around or provide value in some meaningful way. Look at baldness as a motivation to work on yourself. And seriously it's not that big a deal. We aren't ugly fat chicks, we aren't paraplegics, we don't have downsyndrome. That would be the end of the world. So stop wasting your lives and talents and get to work.
 
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Scalpology

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Not the end of the world, just end of life for a follicle challenged entity.

You are most likely overrating your "cute" girls. Pictures or it didn't happen. Guys always overestimate their contests to protect their ego.

Cute is a pretty stretched term. You can find something cute in a 4/10 as well.
 

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That's not the point of what I am trying to say at all. I just went ahead and took that part out because it will just encourage this kind of thinking. All I hope is that at least one person going through these forums feeling sorry for himself is inspired to stop wasting his life and make something of himself.
 

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Let us know how that escapism works for ya. At least people here are brave enough to accept reality of subhuman life that is life of a bald person. If you are bald, everything that you are "making of yourself" is pure overcompensation. So it doesn't count. If you have 10 million in the bank, a luxury villa and a Ferrari it means nothing, because you have no hair and are a pathetic, overcompensating baldie. It only matters if you have sexy scene hair or some cool yuppie haircut. It's cool to be "something" and attractive. If you are "something" and ugly people know you just overcompensate, because you have no other choice.
 

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Inb4UCM.

Whereabouts in Alberta are you located ?
 

Scalpology

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I was browsing my Facebook pictures with my girlfriend yesterday, and of course there were pictures of me when I had hair.

She had it on the tip of her tongue, and I could feel a bit of sadness in her voice, she just said: "You looked so... different with hair".

Yes she wanted to say it, what she really meant was: "Now you are bald, but it's OK, I'll tolerate it, but you would be so much better with hair!"

In fact I agree with OP mostly, but are these things so easy to pull out when you're a bald guy in your early twenties?

Scalpology is right, and it has been said many times before: you can't compensate for your lack of hair, only hair will replace hair.

My girlfriend is with me because I'm lucky my other traits compensate for my baldness.

The harsh reality is that I will not be granted the same amount of mistakes a NW1 can make before she starts losing respect for me.
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Fred, why not get a wig? Girlfriend will understand and you will look better.

EDIT: Oh, you just got a hair transplant. Gratz. Hope it grows out hair like it was before.
 

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Well some people have a low self-esteem because there is more "wrong" with them than just being bald. With other words they have more problems that can turn women off easily.
 

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I was browsing my Facebook pictures with my girlfriend yesterday, and of course there were pictures of me when I had hair.

She had it on the tip of her tongue, and I could feel a bit of sadness in her voice, she just said: "You looked so... different with hair".

Yes she wanted to say it, what she really meant was: "Now you are bald, but it's OK, I'll tolerate it, but you would be so much better with hair!"

In fact I agree with OP mostly, but are these things so easy to pull out when you're a bald guy in your early twenties?

Scalpology is right, and it has been said many times before: you can't compensate for your lack of hair, only hair will replace hair.

My girlfriend is with me because I'm lucky my other traits compensate for my baldness.

The harsh reality is that I will not be granted the same amount of mistakes a NW1 can make before she starts losing respect for me.

If it will make you feel better, I can add that I was never able to get a girlfriend that I wanted and create a relationship even with thick hair, never in my life. And I am 29, and I am not bald yet.
 

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Michael, that's because women are turned off by metalists and long hair like that on guys is unattractive.
 

Michael84

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Not quite true. Many women like long hair but at the same time many hate it, like you say. I learned that most of the success with women depends on your behaviour and character. And general appearance, of course. Hair is just a part of the whole image.
 

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Scalpology, I am not escaping, in fact, I admitted that being bald makes hooking up/having flings a lot harder and I think we can all agree that this is what hurts us most. Most people who try to encourage bald guys say that "girls don't care" and obviously that is bull****. There are some things being bald straight up disqualifies you from, like being an actor or an American Politician. But do you really think that people will hate you just because you are bald? In fact I honestly feel that people treat me with more respect than I deserve, people trust me where they are suspicious of NW1's who are similar to me. Yes bald is unattractive, but is it so gross that it is difficult to look at? I really don't think so.

The idea of everything you do being overcompensating is ridiculous. How does being bald affect your intelligence? Your discipline? Your creativity? Your health? Your energy? The way you treat others? Your genetic makeup is way, way, way more than just your hair. Do you really think that society wants your talents to go to waste just because you're bald?

JZA70, I actually put a random place. I am in MA, USA. I may change it if this community turns out to be beneficial.

Fred, Why does it have to hurt you so much that your girlfriend wishes you had hair? I'll bet she also wishes you were funnier and had a cooler life. There's no way for me to prove it to you, but I think she cares a lot less than you think, and if you were more comfortable about it she would be too. You seem to think that girls look at us the way we look at them, and that is just not true. Girls are inherently sexier and more social, where as men are inherently stronger and more dominant and focused.

As for how can a bald guy in his early 20's pull anything off? I agree it's hard to pull off sleeping with lots of hot girls, but how does it significantly affect anything else? Does being bald hinder a computer programmer at all? An MMA fighter? It would hinder a comedian to some extent, but how much? A DJ? A physical trainer? A salesman? There is a lot more to life than what random girls think of you.

Look I am a realist and I really wish I had hair. I would get a hair transplant but I think I am too bald and I refuse to take finasteride or anything similar (tried it, ****ed with my mood and libido badly). I just don't want to let this hold me back anymore. The real problem here isn't baldness, it is depression and laziness.
 

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I can really relate to the pain of a wasted youth. My hairloss started even earlier and I had other problems as a teenager so I'v never even really experienced it. I get over it by realizing that most people really don't have all that amazing of a youth as we think and that at least I can learn from my mistakes to make the rest of my life as good as it can be (some very negative people will call this "overcompensating"...). Things have been slowly getting better over the past couple of years but I really need to pull myself together and make major changes. I hope that soon, like you I can say that I got myself together relatively on time. You say that what did it was realizing you were still attractive and could get a hair transplant, but I'm curious did you do anything in particular to change your behavior?


I totally get the pain; I see full heads of hair everywhere and wonder "what would it be like to not be a bald guy?" It feels like it just totally changes your entire identity. I agree that the negativity among a lot of the people here is beyond repair and there is nothing that can be done for them. The thing is that I know more bald, average looking, young bald guys who seem to have genuinely happy lives than depressed ones. This leads me to believe that the real underlying cause is the way you view the world and how well you can deal with emotional pain.
 

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Altari, check out the baldwatch twitter feed to see what people really think of us bald guys. They are literally rejoicing in bashing bald guys like you and me with extreme prejudice. Maybe if you can see how unfairly we are judged then you can realize that the problem doesn't lie with us (we didn't DO anything) the problem is how society views and treats bald people.
 

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Not quite true. Many women like long hair but at the same time many hate it, like you say. I learned that most of the success with women depends on your behaviour and character. And general appearance, of course. Hair is just a part of the whole image.
Yes, it's true. I've had several women confirm this. If you look like in your avatar, then it's no wonder you can't get gf. Sorry, but women prefer studs. Metalheads are associated with nerds, weaklings, veganism, introvert losers, etc...just facts. For a man hair can be no longer than shoulder length. This isn't lord of the rings and you aren't Legolas. Just the red pill!
 

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Yes, it's true. I've had several women confirm this. If you look like in your avatar, then it's no wonder you can't get gf. Sorry, but women prefer studs. Metalheads are associated with nerds, weaklings, veganism, introvert losers, etc...just facts. For a man hair can be no longer than shoulder length. This isn't lord of the rings and you aren't Legolas. Just the red pill!
I believe you that metalheads are often viewed like something unusual, if not weird, by "normal" people. But this is not the case with me. To tell you the truth I was often approached by girls who wanted get acquainted with me and even marry me, lol. But that was due to my appearance and the effect of the first minute when we met. After a while they lost interest in me, partly because of those other traits that you mentioned :) And that was happening when I had thick hair as well as later too, with thin hair. That just means that hair is definately not a remedy.
 

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I believe you that metalheads are often viewed like something unusual, if not weird, by "normal" people. But this is not the case with me. To tell you the truth I was often approached by girls who wanted get acquainted with me and even marry me, lol. But that was due to my appearance and the effect of the first minute when we met. After a while they lost interest in me, partly because of those other traits that you mentioned :) And that was happening when I had thick hair as well as later too, with thin hair. That just means that hair is definately not a remedy.
In your avatar the hair looks good. Do you dye it or is it naturally black? Try a shorter haircut. Something like Jammie Lannister from game of thrones. Try it. Long hair like that looks unkept and feminine. Feminine is not a good quality for a guy no matter what scene kids will tell you.
 

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That just means that hair is definately not a remedy.

Try doing all those things as nw5 and then maybe you will realize that hair is (for most) an unsaid prerequisite. Like having control over your bowels most women don't include that in their list of desired male attributes... they just assume you have it. You sound like you take your hair for granted, like most people.
 

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It all boils down to your face and skull.

If you have the skull to pull off the bald look (1-5% of men have it), then you are good to go.

If not, game over for you.

End of story.
 

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In your avatar the hair looks good. Do you dye it or is it naturally black? Try a shorter haircut. Something like Jammie Lannister from game of thrones. Try it. Long hair like that looks unkept and feminine. Feminine is not a good quality for a guy no matter what scene kids will tell you.
This is not me in my avatar despite I look very similar. It's the guy I adore. His hair is unusually thick and rare. Actually he is ugly in all other sense of normal standards except his hair which is gorgeous. And by the way, that man is single and I doubt he ever had any relationship.
And I do not wish to cut my hair at the moment, unless I am significantly bald. Because it does matter for me personally, it's my image, irrespectable what b****s think. If I decide to improve my mating skills I will work on my "game", i.e. behaviour, words and actions during the interaction but not my haircut. As I said, I met many girls who accept me with long hair. And I am sure many girls will accept me with shaved/buzzed head as well, depending on my personality and actions.
Uncomfortable man will disagree with that but he does not realise that he cannot be loved by everyone. There will always be people who like you and people who hate you, irrespectively of your hair.
 
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